Dragonball Movie Update! What is UP with this?

Chrono Trigger · Post by **Chrono Trigger** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:26 pm

I know there won't be anything "Ultimate" about the movie. I meant in the sense that it would be a remix of sorts on the story. Like Ultimate Spider-man is to the regular Spider-man.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:29 pm

SSj_Rambo wrote:
Chrono Trigger wrote:You know how Marvel Comics has that Ultimate series ? Like Ultimate Spider-man ? Couldn't the live action movie be considered an "Ultimate Dragon Ball" ? Just wondering.
I think it will/should be considered a "Live Action Dragonball" franchise. I feel like the title "Ultimate" is a little too prestigious for what we will get from this adaptation.

Shueisha won't allow anyone but Toriyama to draw Goku. I'm also sure Toriyama ain't returning to deadline hell.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:37 pm

Raki wrote:Shueisha won't allow anyone but Toriyama to draw Goku. I'm also sure Toriyama ain't returning to deadline hell.

We weren't talking about any new manga or anything...we were talking about what the new live action movie series will be titled.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:39 pm

Herms wrote:
Kendamu wrote:That, or I think of Yamcha, just after killing an inmate in a prison he's in, growling something like, "You've got it wrong. I'm not trapped in here with you. You're all trapped in here with me."
So Yamcha is Rorschach in this analogy? Now there's a thought...

That's just to show how absurd and off-track a "gritty" Dragonball would be according to my definition of "gritty."

Of course, now I've stopped worrying about the life-action DragonBall movie in favor of worrying about the live-action Watchmen movie. Curse you!

So far, the Watchmen movie is looking really good!

Velasa · Post by **Velasa** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:20 pm

Kendamu wrote:So far, the Watchmen movie is looking really good!

You mean with Batman cast as Nite Owl? I'm worried sick about that movie- Alan Moore books are never done right when Hollywood gets its hands on them. And Watchmen is about twenty five interlacing layers of story thick, with pirate comic books, excerpts from novels and essays on birds intermixed- and they are all important. A two-hour movie will never be able to make respectable sense of it.

Dragonball on a whole gets very serious at times, but aside from Mirai it would never really be called 'gritty'. When you think of modern aimed-at-kids action movie trends =PG rating, it all speaks very badly for Dragonball. I'll be looking forward to Marsters, some of the backgrounds, and expanded roles for Mai and Bulma. And very little else.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:27 pm

I can't wait to see the very first Kamehameha made by a professional CGI company!

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:49 pm

Chrono Trigger wrote:I know there won't be anything "Ultimate" about the movie. I meant in the sense that it would be a remix of sorts on the story. Like Ultimate Spider-man is to the regular Spider-man.

Yeah, just give us Brian Michael Bendis as the writer, and I'd be a lot less worried about this movie.

Stargazer · Post by **Stargazer** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:56 pm

From: http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 22193.html

Fox strategy to introduce the movie in France, a country where Dragon Ball is very popular, is to show the first picture in a kid magazine which make fun of it and more or less said that it will be cheesy.

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:25 pm

Stargazer wrote:From: http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 22193.html

Fox strategy to introduce the movie in France, a country where Dragon Ball is very popular, is to show the first picture in a kid magazine which make fun of it and more or less said that it will be cheesy.

Here's hoping Goku can call open the Heart of the Cards to take down Piccolo.

Tatsunoboshi Horoko · Post by **Tatsunoboshi Horoko** » Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:52 pm

He'd make a good Yusei, considering he's got the whole "I never emote" thing going on...

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:12 am

When you think of modern aimed-at-kids action movie trends =PG rating, it all speaks very badly for Dragonball.

What's wrong with a PG rating? The (edited) series had Y7 on TV, the unedited was TV14. PG fits in right in the middle. Hell, the original TMNT movie was rated PG and that worked out just fine.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:35 am

Velasa wrote: You mean with Batman cast as Nite Owl?

Patrick Wilson's never played Batman. Unless you mean the costume. But you kinda have to admit that if they straight adapted Nite Owl's comic costume, it would look about as ridiculous as Adam West's Batman. For that matter, the second Nite Owl has similarities to Batman anyway, so I don't see a problem with the live action look. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Small bit of trivia I find interesting. In DC comics, the opposite to Batman from Earth-3 is Owlman.

I'm worried sick about that movie- Alan Moore books are never done right when Hollywood gets its hands on them. And Watchmen is about twenty five interlacing layers of story thick, with pirate comic books, excerpts from novels and essays on birds intermixed- and they are all important. A two-hour movie will never be able to make respectable sense of it.

I just want to add that I, personally, have grown jaded with Alan Moore in regards to movies. I mean, he blasted V mainly on the grounds that the movie character is more of an anti-hero than an anarchist. The director has said was a mistake of interpretation. Understandable since in America we tend to lump anarchistic protagonists under the anti-hero label (example, Deadpool, who one issue may be chit-chatting with Cable or saving a puppy, and another be rolling with guys like Deadpool, but we still bill him more or less as an anti-hero). And, as V's co-creator pointed out, neither of them had any problems when the checks were being cashed.

And with Watchmen, the man again had no problem getting paid (though at least this time he negotiated to have his name removed and royalties paid to his co-creater, so at least he stands by his principles on that). His comments have indicated that his gripe is a fundamental dislike of the pacing of a movie (i.e. he prefers comics to film as a medium), but had also said he liked David Hayter's script. The current script is heavily drawn from Hayter's earlier drafts, with the biggest change being that they brought it back to the Cold War setting (Hayter had modernized it).

Dragonball on a whole gets very serious at times, but aside from Mirai it would never really be called 'gritty'.

I was saying earlier that some of the movies do. Move 3 anyone? What about 8 or 13?

When you think of modern aimed-at-kids action movie trends =PG rating, it all speaks very badly for Dragonball.

As I also stated earlier, no other single Dragon Ball product, even uncut releases of the anime, has been rated above a PG. This includes content such as, as Rocketman posted, Goku flying through Daimao.

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:28 pm

Onikage725 wrote:
Dragonball on a whole gets very serious at times, but aside from Mirai it would never really be called 'gritty'.
I was saying earlier that some of the movies do. Move 3 anyone? What about 8 or 13?

I wouldn't really call those movies "gritty". I mean, movie 3 opens with a 20 minute segment about how cute a little dragon is, and the ensuing struggle between Tullece's gang and the Z-senshi isn't near as violent or hopeless as the fight with the Saiyajins; The color scheme is just darker. And movie 8 I would call more "mindless" than "gritty", because while it's basically a giant fight scene without much dialogue, it's a stylized fight scene. Movie 13 gets somber at points, but I still wouldn't use "gritty". When I think gritty, I think Frank Miller. And when I think Frank Miller, I think terrible dialogue and violent to the point of being comical.

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:50 pm

No argument here- in a general sense. This all started as reaction to someone mentioning the movie being grittier than the series. In my opinion, those movies (and a few of the others) are darker and grittier than most of the series (not that the series doesn't have it's moments). 3, for example, seems darker than the Saiyan Saga to me, as it basically shows the heroes completely outclassed against a backdrop of the world slowly dying. Outside of one city, Nappa and Vegeta didn't cause much collateral damage. And the fight was a prolonged one, with everyone getting their licks in. Movie 3 was basically "you're all fucked" until Goku used the genki dama.

That's just my impression. I wouldn't call any aspect of the series or movies to be truly "gritty" or comparable to Frank Miller's work.

But does anyone seriously think that comment means they're turning the film into Sin City with ki powers?

I think they just mean it'll be darker, like some of the movies. And the Daimao Saga has plenty of potential for that. If Toei had animated a Daimao-based film, it probably would have been kinda depressing until the final battle.

Shenron · Post by **Shenron** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:55 pm

Stargazer wrote:From: http://dragonballfilm.over-blog.com/art ... 22193.html

Fox strategy to introduce the movie in France, a country where Dragon Ball is very popular, is to show the first picture in a kid magazine which make fun of it and more or less said that it will be cheesy.

You know, I don't know anyone in France who's more than 15 years old and thinks that this movie won't be horrible, even without the DB franchise. So even if it is a kid magazine, I'm not surprised, and in fact, I think the same way.

But I don't take part in the discussion, because the only word I can think of about this movie is "ridiculous", and it's not very constructive

Kaioshin84 · Post by **Kaioshin84** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:58 pm

I have bought the Season One, Two and Three from the remastered uncut DVD's and thinking about buying Season Four and Five. I already have the original bilingual funimation dvd's from the Garlic Jr. Saga till the end of the series however, the 4:3 ones. So I wonder. Are these new releases worth buying although I already have the other dvd's from garlic jr. till kid buu or should I stop now that I have all the episodes on dvd. I didn't yet have the Freeza and captain ginyu sagas and off course saiyan and namek weren't released uncut before. Is the quality increase of the dvd sets season four and five great enough to warrant and new purchase? Or should I stick to the dvd's I have?

Greetings,

Eddi

SonEric84 · Post by **SonEric84** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:49 pm

Kaioshin84 wrote:I have bought the Season One, Two and Three from the remastered uncut DVD's and thinking about buying Season Four and Five. I already have the original bilingual funimation dvd's from the Garlic Jr. Saga till the end of the series however, the 4:3 ones. So I wonder. Are these new releases worth buying although I already have the other dvd's from garlic jr. till kid buu or should I stop now that I have all the episodes on dvd. I didn't yet have the Freeza and captain ginyu sagas and off course saiyan and namek weren't released uncut before. Is the quality increase of the dvd sets season four and five great enough to warrant and new purchase? Or should I stick to the dvd's I have?

Greetings,

Eddi

Welcome to the forums! I think I should tell you that you're in the wrong thread, this thread is for the DB live action movie news/discussion.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:02 pm

Velasa wrote:
Kendamu wrote:So far, the Watchmen movie is looking really good!
You mean with Batman cast as Nite Owl? I'm worried sick about that movie- Alan Moore books are never done right when Hollywood gets its hands on them. And Watchmen is about twenty five interlacing layers of story thick, with pirate comic books, excerpts from novels and essays on birds intermixed- and they are all important. A two-hour movie will never be able to make respectable sense of it.

Nite Owl always kinda reminded me of Batman with his gadgets, lair, vehicles, etc. anyway. I mean, definitely not the same personality, but everything else reminded me of him.

I don't expect Watchmen to be perfect, but if it can do as well as Sin City or 300 I'll be very happy with it. I just don't want them to get the wrong tone like they did with V by turning it from Anarchy to anti-Bush.

Dragonball on a whole gets very serious at times, but aside from Mirai it would never really be called 'gritty'. When you think of modern aimed-at-kids action movie trends =PG rating, it all speaks very badly for Dragonball. I'll be looking forward to Marsters, some of the backgrounds, and expanded roles for Mai and Bulma. And very little else.

I'm pretty sure the action won't look half bad at all and might get a little epic here and there. However, I don't expect a whole lot in terms of story.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:36 pm

The action, however different from the anime, will be pretty good, judging by the people they have working on it. The thing I'm really worried about is getting a bunch of stereotypical Crouching Tiger style fight scenes.

omegacwa · Post by **omegacwa** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:56 pm

This just in, in the sequel Vegeta will be a school bully, will steal Bulma from Yamcha, but Bulma really has a crush on Goku, so she sees him behind Vegeta's back, then as plan to set up Yamcha and Bulma, Goku takes Bulma to the Dance and plans on sexually harassing her in the car with Yamcha coming to the rescue, but when Vegeta finds out about Goku and Bulma he goes to the car and beats up Goku and Nappa locks Goku in an another car's trunk. Then, Yamcha comes to play hero, but finds Vegeta instead. Yamcha knocks out Vegeta and Bulma falls for him again. Goku gets free and plays earth angel on his guitar while Yamcha and Bulma kiss. Then as the credits role Goku busts out a awesome guitar solo kamehameha from Johnny Be Good and sends Vegeta to the moon.

Alright I am kidding, and I hope people get the reference.