Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

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Re: Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:30 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
SupremeSSJ wrote:World wide web/internet
That's not really good advice because if he were to visit Amazon.com for opinions he'd be led to believe these Season Blu-rays are perfect.
Which are often said by those who have no concept/understanding of aspect ratios or history of the show.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:47 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:
SupremeSSJ wrote:World wide web/internet
That's not really good advice because if he were to visit Amazon.com for opinions he'd be led to believe these Season Blu-rays are perfect.
Which are often said by those who have no concept/understanding of aspect ratios or history of the show.
Its false to make assumptions like that. I know all that and I think these are perfect.
Edit: There is also no way to prove these folks are 'ignorant'. I believe it's just a pathetic excuse 'purists' use to justify how well these are selling.

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Post by AnimeMaakuo » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:59 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Its false to make assumptions like that. I know all that and I think these are perfect.
Edit: There is also no way to prove these folks are 'ignorant'. I believe it's just a pathetic excuse 'purists' use to justify how well these are selling.
Please explain to me why you think this release is perfect.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:00 pm

AnimeMaakuo wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Its false to make assumptions like that. I know all that and I think these are perfect.
Edit: There is also no way to prove these folks are 'ignorant'. I believe it's just a pathetic excuse 'purists' use to justify how well these are selling.
Please explain to me why you think this release is perfect.
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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:50 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:16x9.
Which isn't the correct aspect ratio, causing lots of lost footage and horrible framing. Plus, on these sets, FUNimation incorporated terrible panning which is incredibly jarring to see in motion:

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:No Grain.
Which makes the picture look very smeared and oily, and doesn't resemble it's cel and film origins any longer. Kai handled the noise reduction much better.
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There are many proportional and compositional issues with the artwork. The poses are awkward, and the style is overly rounded and bubbly looking.
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This is the only legitimate positive of these releases to me. They actually went all out with the extras. They should have done this for the Orange Bricks. :(


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Post by samuraix123 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:46 pm

While I don't agree this release is perfect but I do like it a-lot. also I'm curious what I'm suppose to be looking for with the above image of Goku? they both look the exact same to me?
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:57 pm

samuraix123 wrote:While I don't agree this release is perfect but I do like it a-lot. also I'm curious what I'm suppose to be looking for with the above image of Goku? they both look the exact same to me?
Camera is shaking in the Bluray shot, looks very unsteady. However, I kinda like that effect although it's unintentional.
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Post by Gonstead » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:58 pm

samuraix123 wrote:While I don't agree this release is perfect but I do like it a-lot. also I'm curious what I'm suppose to be looking for with the above image of Goku? they both look the exact same to me?
Look closely at the rocks and the planning when he lifts his head. Compare between the two.
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Post by AnimeMaakuo » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:08 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
AnimeMaakuo wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Its false to make assumptions like that. I know all that and I think these are perfect.
Edit: There is also no way to prove these folks are 'ignorant'. I believe it's just a pathetic excuse 'purists' use to justify how well these are selling.
Please explain to me why you think this release is perfect.
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You can believe anything you want to believe, which is fine, but that's not the intended version of Dragon Ball Z. I simply cannot understand why you think having animation chopped off is considered "perfect". It doesn't make any fucking sense to me.
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Post by SupremeSSJ » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:25 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
SupremeSSJ wrote:World wide web/internet
That's not really good advice because if he were to visit Amazon.com for opinions he'd be led to believe these Season Blu-rays are perfect.
I'm simply telling him to just stream for now until something better.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:31 pm

samuraix123 wrote:While I don't agree this release is perfect but I do like it a-lot. also I'm curious what I'm suppose to be looking for with the above image of Goku? they both look the exact same to me?
On the Blu-ray shot, the camera is slowly panning before Goku lifts his head (you can even see it jumps for a few frames too, which isn't from the loop), and when he does lift his head, it actually pulls down on the Blu-ray footage. You can tell when you don't focus on either and stare at both of them. They're timed exactly with each other, and you can tell that the image on the right doesn't pan up as high as the original footage. I still don't know why FUNimation thought it'd be a good idea to make it pan down in that shot, because you lose more footage at the top that way. Plus, as mentioned before, the rocks move awkwardly with the panning on the Blu-ray shot.

Before I compared them I could see the camera moving around in that shot. It makes me feel motion sickness.
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Post by samuraix123 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:04 pm

I keep looking at it and I don't see anything odd LOL I'm sorry guys :lol: You guys just know something I don't is all haha

Edit - After looking at it for a long time! Haha I noticed that the rocks like shift to right then back to the left? something I definitely wouldn't have noticed had I not sat here and tried to look for something like that. I'm not going to knock a point off this release because of that.
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:48 pm

If I have to look that incredibly closely to understand what you're trying to get me to see, then what I'm effectively doing is trying as hard as possible to not enjoy the release.

Yes, it's got its problems, but I've gotten so picky about DBZ releases over the years that I see "major" issues in pretty much every release now. As inexpensive as I'm getting these for, I'm going to enjoy them for what they are and move on with my life. Anything else would be me just never allowing myself to enjoy Dragonball.

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Post by eledoremassis02 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:54 pm

Kendamu wrote: I've gotten so picky about DBZ releases over the years that I see "major" issues in pretty much every release now.
That's true for me too.

I noticed it the first time I saw it, and other weird panning in that scene. But hey, if you don't see it or if it doesn't bother you, more power to ya!

While I do like these sets more than I thought I was going to, some people love them and some don't. :)

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Post by JEFFMAN219 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:12 pm

A lot of people on here are picky about DBZ releases. After seeing clips of the new blu ray on my TV it doesn't look as bad as people say it is. Funimation just have to stop making the colors so damn bright.

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Post by samuraix123 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:40 pm

Kendamu wrote:If I have to look that incredibly closely to understand what you're trying to get me to see, then what I'm effectively doing is trying as hard as possible to not enjoy the release.

Yes, it's got its problems, but I've gotten so picky about DBZ releases over the years that I see "major" issues in pretty much every release now. As inexpensive as I'm getting these for, I'm going to enjoy them for what they are and move on with my life. Anything else would be me just never allowing myself to enjoy Dragonball.
I couldn't have said it better myself :thumbup: I'm actually happy that these sets will be the way I watch the series for a while unless I want to treat myself to a treat and pop in the Dragon-boxes. :)
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Post by kei17 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:10 am

I can tolerate flaws that naturally occur like film jitter, scratches and faded colors, but I can't overlook this kind of by-effects produced by artificial filters. To me, they stick out like a sore thumb even if they're so minimal. It's the same as unnecessary cropping.

I choose to be nitpicky rather than ignorant. Also, pointing them out is a lot more meaningful than just throwing in "I love this lol" kind of posts.

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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:11 am

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
AnimeMaakuo wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Its false to make assumptions like that. I know all that and I think these are perfect.
Edit: There is also no way to prove these folks are 'ignorant'. I believe it's just a pathetic excuse 'purists' use to justify how well these are selling.
Please explain to me why you think this release is perfect.
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Post by Kendamu » Wed Jun 25, 2014 12:46 am

eledoremassis02 wrote:While I do like these sets more than I thought I was going to, some people love them and some don't. :)
I'm not gonna pick on anyone who has higher standards than I do. Also, I think that my being happy with how the Full Color Manga has turned out so far has really dulled any harshness I might have toward this release.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:46 am

Kendamu wrote:
eledoremassis02 wrote:While I do like these sets more than I thought I was going to, some people love them and some don't. :)
I'm not gonna pick on anyone who has higher standards than I do. Also, I think that my being happy with how the Full Color Manga has turned out so far has really dulled any hardhness I might have toward this release.
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