Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Freeza Soldier #156]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=businsJmTDs Have you seen this?

It aired a week or so ago after an episode of Kai.

[Puto]

Seems to have avoided outright balding, though. Maybe he shaved his hair off for so long that the hair gods decided to let him keep it.

This just in: Kanzenshuu confirms that the next Dragon Ball Z movie will reveal the existence of the Gods of Hair, and an intense battle ensues!

...I was going to look up the Japanese word for hair to combine with 'kaioshin' somehow, but couldn't find a definitive answer (Google even gave me 'kami' of all things!). Probably for the best, as everyone who knows Japanese would probably have cringed at the result.

Japanese word for hair actually is kami. Different kanji than God, of course. So the God of Hair would be the Kami no Kami.

[Tatakae!!Ramenman]

I don't know if anybody has said this yet, but I think Frieza wishes for there not to be super saiyans anymore, which would explain why Goku is not a super saiyan when he is fighting Frieza in the trailer. This would make fighting Frieza again a much bigger challenge.

[FortuneSSJ]

I don't know if anybody has said this yet, but I think Freeza wishes for there not to be super saiyans anymore, which would explain why Goku is not a super saiyan when he is fighting Freeza in the trailer. This would make fighting Freeza again a much bigger challenge.

It could be but Gohan turns ssj in the trailer. I would like the wish to be less simple than just a revival.
Something that would trigger in Universe 7.

[Regarder]

I don't know if anybody has said this yet, but I think Freeza wishes for there not to be super saiyans anymore, which would explain why Goku is not a super saiyan when he is fighting Freeza in the trailer. This would make fighting Freeza again a much bigger challenge.

But Gohan is a SS!

It could still work though, but Freeza would have to specifically ask Shenron to take away Super Saiyan from the Saiyans who defeated him, which is a little awkward and would leave Vegeta with SS as well. How do you even word such a wish without making Freeza look mind cripplingly dumb?

"SHENRON! Take Super Saiyan from the monkeys who unfairly defeated me!"

"Monkeys...?"

"Ahem. Saiyans."

"IT IS DONE!"

[Marco Polo]

I thought Frieza's resurrection was the wish.

[TheGmGoken]

I thought Freeza's resurrection was the wish.

Don't you get more than one wish?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I don't think Freeza wishes to get rid of it. Afterall there will be no satisfaction for him, I reckon Freeza wants to beat Goku at his max, the same reasons why Goku let Freeza go 100% on Namek.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

What the hell with the alternative universes & DB wishes theories about SS Goku? It is stated in BoG, and even directly by Toriyama, that Goku doesn't need to transform anymore, because all of his Super Saiyan forms no longer increase his strength... Goku has absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God in his base.

Gohan, on the other hand, doesn't have his Super Saiyan forms useless like Goku. He can either transform into Super Saiyan (and beyond), or he can power-up to Ultimate (as it was shown in BoG). For some reason, Gohan turns into a Super Saiyan in the trailer (and let's not forger the SS Gohan scene in the 1st BoG trailer that was different in the movie, so it could be the same ), because apparently he decides that he doesn't need Ultimate in that situation, and SS is all he needs. As for his eyes not being fully outlined, it's most likely just a design error, since Gohan's eyes are fully outlined in the 28th TB arc in the manga.

[Vice]

I don't know if anybody has said this yet, but I think Freeza wishes for there not to be super saiyans anymore, which would explain why Goku is not a super saiyan when he is fighting Freeza in the trailer. This would make fighting Freeza again a much bigger challenge.

So why can't Piccolo beat Freeza then?

[EmmaWinters]

I thought Freeza's resurrection was the wish.

Don't you get more than one wish?

They're supposed to get three, but we only got one in Battle of Gods.

[Low Tone G]

What the hell with the alternative universes & DB wishes theories about SS Goku? It is stated in BoG, and even directly by Toriyama, that Goku doesn't need to transform anymore, because all of his Super Saiyan forms no longer increase his strength... Goku has absorbed the power of Super Saiyan God in his base.

Gohan, on the other hand, doesn't have his Super Saiyan forms useless like Goku. He can either transform into Super Saiyan (and beyond), or he can power-up to Ultimate (as it was shown in BoG). For some reason, Gohan turns into a Super Saiyan in the trailer (and let's not forger the SS Gohan scene in the 1st BoG trailer that was different in the movie, so it could be the same ), because apparently he decides that he doesn't need Ultimate in that situation, and SS is all he needs. As for his eyes not being fully outlined, it's most likely just a design error, since Gohan's eyes are fully outlined in the 28th TB arc in the manga.

I was under the impression that both Gohan and Goku can transform into SSj, but those forms are useless for both of them. I saw the absorption of Goku like the ritual of Old Kai, with the difference that Goku performed that alone, without any help.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I was under the impression that both Gohan and Goku can transform in to SSj, but those forms are useless for both of them.

If that was the case for Gohan, he wouldn't have turn SS during the ritual.

I saw the absorption of Goku like the ritual of Old Kai, with the difference that Goku performed that alone, without any help.

But they are not the same things. Gohan got his dormant power drawn out far beyond their limits in his base. Goku became a god, and got a much, much greater power-up than Gohan did. Goku's power can't be from his dormant power, because Gohan has greater dormant power than him.

[Low Tone G]

I was under the impression that both Gohan and Goku can transform in to SSj, but those forms are useless for both of them.

If that was the case for Gohan, he wouldn't have turn SS during the ritual.

I saw the absorption of Goku like the ritual of Old Kai, with the difference that Goku performed that alone, without any help.

But they are not the same things. Gohan got his dormant power drawn out far beyond their limits in his base. Goku became a god, and got a much, much greater power-up than Gohan did. Goku's power can't be from his dormant power, because Gohan has greater dormant power than him.

It's that proven that Goku had lesser dormant power? It is somewhat contradicted, when Beerus stated Goku has(as a God) immeasurable latent power.

I know those are not the same thing but they are similar as Goku and Gohan do not gain any boost after transforming into SSJ.

[Hellspawn28]

The poster we saw Freeza and the Ginyu force says he wish for immortality. Does he really to be immortal in the film or that's just a promo picture.

[Avenged]

The poster we saw Freeza and the Ginyu force says he wish for immortality. Does he really to be immortal in the film or that's just a promo picture.

Probably just because he was trying to become immortal before.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

It's that proven that Goku had lesser dormant power? It is somewhat contradicted, when Beerus stated Goku has(as a God) immeasurable latent power.

The fact that Gohan was stronger than him when he was 4, and that he surpassed him again when he was 11 with less training in his lifetime proves this.

And it's not contradicted. Goku being a god now could have changed the rules for him.

I know those are not the same thing but they are similar as Goku and Gohan do not gain any boost after transforming into SSJ.

But this isn't proven for Gohan, and it's unlikely IMO. If Ultimate Gohan can transform into SS, wouldn't he have transformed when he first awakened his power? And why would he turn into a SS in the ritual if it's useless?

[Low Tone G]

It's that proven that Goku had lesser dormant power? It is somewhat contradicted, when Beerus stated Goku has(as a God) immeasurable latent power.

The fact that Gohan was stronger than him when he was 4, and that he surpassed him again when he was 11 with less training in his lifetime proves this.

And it's not contradicted. Goku being a god now could have changed the rules for him.

I know those are not the same thing but they are similar as Goku and Gohan do not gain any boost after transforming into SSJ.

But this isn't proven for Gohan, and it's unlikely IMO. If Ultimate Gohan can transform into SS, wouldn't he have transformed when he first awakened his power? And why would he turn into a SS in the ritual if it's useless?

Gohan truned SSJ during the SSJ God ritual because he was misled by Beerus' statement, as Beerus wanted the one to meet with to be a Super Saiyan God. And every one else turned SSJ, but the whole ritual doesn't really need SSJ, just goodness of heart. Old Kai said that it's useless to transform into a Super Saiyan after having all his latent powers in Base because that would exhaust Gohan too much.

[Chuquita]

Well, hopes for nice animation slightly higher. We made it through Jump Festa without any One Piece movie announcements. They are getting a kabuki show, but that's neither here nor there.

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