"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by pacz360 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:57 pm

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pacz360 wrote:I hope gohan trains and reclaim his former glory or otherwise he might as well be the new yamcha :( it doesn't make sense why he doesn't train during these times.
Fastforward to after RoF. New villain shows up and kidnaps Pan. Gohan goes apeshit.
Then goes to Goku and begs him to save his daughter for him.
Unfortunately so

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:03 pm

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dbzfan7 wrote:Then goes to Goku and begs him to save his daughter for him.
Unfortunately so
Huh? :eh:

I'm sure it's meant to be a originally a joke, but when has Gohan ever had to beg Goku for anything?

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Post by Doctor. » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:04 pm

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Doctor. wrote:Are we sure we're talking about the same series? This is the only series where a haircut IS relevant for all transformations.
No, it isn't. Gohan could have long, short, spiky hair or even be bald and he still would be able to transform into SSJ or Ultimate. The haircut is irrelevant. So much so that his haircut was changed in RoF and he still was able to transform.
You didn't get the point but I don't care to explain either way, this conversation is pointless since all will be cleared up in a few weeks anyway.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:05 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
pacz360 wrote:I hope gohan trains and reclaim his former glory or otherwise he might as well be the new yamcha :( it doesn't make sense why he doesn't train during these times.
Fastforward to after RoF. New villain shows up and kidnaps Pan. Gohan goes apeshit.
Only for Gohan to ask Goku to do it for himhim or Gohan gets one shotted with Goku saving Pan.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:08 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:
pacz360 wrote:I hope gohan trains and reclaim his former glory or otherwise he might as well be the new yamcha :( it doesn't make sense why he doesn't train during these times.
Fastforward to after RoF. New villain shows up and kidnaps Pan. Gohan goes apeshit.
Only for Gohan to ask Goku to do it for himhim or Gohan gets one shotted with Goku saving Pan.
Nah. Goku would probably be overconfident and get Pan accidentally killed because he wouldn't do what the villain says, allowing Gohan to temporarily lose his shit over Goku being such a useless dad only to apologize later.

Too overboard? Too overboard.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:48 pm

Doctor. wrote:I didn't say it was. I said that him turning SS when there's a better alternative available doesn't make sense.
Why isn't Goku a Super Saiyan 3? Why aren't Goten & Trunks SS3 Gotenks? Maybe because it's just a promo that wants to show all the Super Saiyans together because Super Saiyan is cool?
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Post by FutureGohanSSJ2 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:17 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I didn't say it was. I said that him turning SS when there's a better alternative available doesn't make sense.
Why isn't Goku a Super Saiyan 3? Why aren't Goten & Trunks SS3 Gotenks? Maybe because it's just a promo that wants to show all the Super Saiyans together because Super Saiyan is cool?
^ Why doesn't everybody know this? It"s marketing. It's the same reason why everyone's SSJ on the Battle of Gods poster. It's not supposed to make sense, it's supposed to look cool.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:28 pm

But it looks so generic. Five super Saiyans screaming while firing ki blasts/kamehamehas. How original. Aaaaand it reflects the fact that only Saiyans matter now.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:40 pm

Even though I loved the first chapter, this retelling is uncessary and the "canon" may become a mess.
We could just start after ROF but we're just losing time.

They just had to do a quick recap of what happened, to make sure that the people that didn't watch the movies have a idea of what happened so far.
Like Kai did with DB and like BOG director's cut did too. There's no reason to "waste" episodes/chapters like this.

I don't how much it will take until we go past ROF, but so far seems like we're just losing time.
The only thing worth to chance is erase the stupid "super saiyan god super saiyan" name from existance and just call it ssj god. While the red form starts to be called just saiyan god.
Avery wrote:But it looks so generic. Five super Saiyans screaming while firing ki blasts/kamehamehas. How original. Aaaaand it reflects the fact that only Saiyans matter now.
When it comes to marketing?! No doubt. A saiyan sells more than a earthling.
When it comes to the series?! Watch ROF.
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Doctor. wrote:I didn't say it was. I said that him turning SS when there's a better alternative available doesn't make sense.
Why isn't Goku a Super Saiyan 3? Why aren't Goten & Trunks SS3 Gotenks? Maybe because it's just a promo that wants to show all the Super Saiyans together because Super Saiyan is cool?
Sometimes all it takes is a simple answer like this.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Doctor. » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:43 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Even though I loved the first chapter, this retelling is uncessary and the "canon" may become a mess.
We could just start after ROF but we're just losing time.

They just had to do a quick recap of what happened, to make sure that the people that didn't watch the movies have a idea of what happened so far.
Like Kai did with DB and like BOG director's cut did too. There's no reason to "waste" episodes/chapters like this.

I don't how much it will take until we go past ROF, but so far seems like we're just losing time.
The only thing worth to chance is erase the stupid "super saiyan god super saiyan" name from existance and just call it ssj god. While the red form starts to be called just saiyan god.
I disagree. Starting after RF would be completely predictable and wouldn't allow to develop the gaps between the two movies and give them more depth like they apparently want to do. We're already losing time with Super in itself because EoZ exists so who cares if it's gonna retell the movies or not, at least you get an alternate version of a pre-existing product you may like even more.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:54 pm

At least it's a surprise? Did anyone here anticipate that they might spend the first arc redoing BOG in weekly format? I sure didn't. I thought we'd either jump in after F or after EoZ.
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Post by Beerus-sama » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:58 pm

I still hope this is not a retelling of BoG, that would be uninteresting. :(
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:00 pm

Chuquita wrote:I thought we'd either jump in after F or after EoZ.
I guess because those are the only logical answers.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:01 pm

Doctor. wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:Even though I loved the first chapter, this retelling is uncessary and the "canon" may become a mess.
We could just start after ROF but we're just losing time.

They just had to do a quick recap of what happened, to make sure that the people that didn't watch the movies have a idea of what happened so far.
Like Kai did with DB and like BOG director's cut did too. There's no reason to "waste" episodes/chapters like this.

I don't how much it will take until we go past ROF, but so far seems like we're just losing time.
The only thing worth to chance is erase the stupid "super saiyan god super saiyan" name from existance and just call it ssj god. While the red form starts to be called just saiyan god.
I disagree. Starting after RF would be completely predictable and wouldn't allow to develop the gaps between the two movies and give them more depth like they apparently want to do. We're already losing time with Super in itself because EoZ exists so who cares if it's gonna retell the movies or not, at least you get an alternate version of a pre-existing product you may like even more.
Since when has being predictable bad? It's actually very predictable that we're stuck in this 10 year gap. But now we're going further in time :lol: . Least we get Goten and Goku interactions. But wow it seems like we're stuck in between 2008 OVA and RF period. I can admit I didn't expect them to retell retelling BoG(probably won't change my feeling for it) but besidesd filling in gaps. Is it needed? Kinda seem like filler to me.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:01 pm

I am suprised it is is pre-BoG, yes. (Still not convinced it is a retelling).

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Post by Avery » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:20 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Avery wrote:But it looks so generic. Five super Saiyans screaming while firing ki blasts/kamehamehas. How original. Aaaaand it reflects the fact that only Saiyans matter now.
When it comes to marketing?! No doubt. A saiyan sells more than a earthling.
When it comes to the series?! Watch ROF.
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Doctor. wrote:I didn't say it was. I said that him turning SS when there's a better alternative available doesn't make sense.
Why isn't Goku a Super Saiyan 3? Why aren't Goten & Trunks SS3 Gotenks? Maybe because it's just a promo that wants to show all the Super Saiyans together because Super Saiyan is cool?
Sometimes all it takes is a simple answer like this.
I did watch RoF. They got to fight henchmen, but most fans only care about Goku's hair getting recolored and Vegeta's three minutes of glory. They got to shine only because Goku, Vegeta, Boo, Trunks, Goten and No.18 weren't there and added a rusty Gohan just for the sake of having a SSJ there.
Why can't Piccolo be on that cover too? Because he's not a Saiyan. That's it. He got to fight in RoF only to be knocked out and saved by Gohan. He's been neglected since the Boo arc.
although I did like him as Gotenks' straight man
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:26 pm

Avery wrote: Why can't Piccolo be on that cover too? Because he's not a Saiyan. That's it. He got to fight in RoF only to be knocked out and saved by Gohan. He's been neglected since the Boo arc.
although I did like him as Gotenks' straight man
That's marketing. They are just using what sells more, saiyans.

And Piccolo was being neglected since the Boo arc until ROF happened. After all these years, he finally took his cape off again and joined the battlefield. The last time Piccolo beat someone in the movies was in Meta-Coola movie and there was a lot of movies after that one...
Roshi, Krillin and Tenshinhan on the frontlines kicking ass too?! Toriyama just pulled a miracle with that too.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:29 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I thought we'd either jump in after F or after EoZ.
I guess because those are the only logical answers.
I hope if they have to redo BOG that they at least utilize those battle scenes Toriyama wanted that got dropped because time constraints.
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Post by soulnova » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:34 pm

Does anyone know if Kimitoshi Chioka has a twitter account?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Avery » Fri Jun 19, 2015 5:37 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Avery wrote: Why can't Piccolo be on that cover too? Because he's not a Saiyan. That's it. He got to fight in RoF only to be knocked out and saved by Gohan. He's been neglected since the Boo arc.
although I did like him as Gotenks' straight man
That's marketing. They are using what sells more, saiyans.
Amd Piccolo was being neglected since the Boo arc ulntil ROF happened. After all these years, he finally took his cape off again and joined the battlefield. The last time Piccolo beat someone in the movies was in Meta-Coola movie and there was a lot of movies after that one...
Suppose some ridiculously powerful enemy appeared in Super. If that enemy is accompanied by henchmen, then it's for Piccolo to take them out. Then he'll get knocked out by said villain because they need him/her to be God level to make it intense. HFIL, forget what I said about the Saiyans being the only relevant ones...only Goku and Vegeta are. ಠ_ಠ
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