"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Post by Bullza » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:45 am

So kinda random but on the Dragon Ball wiki's main page I made a poll asking what peoples favourite saga was so far.

I really expected the Future Trunks saga would get the most votes easily but no it's actually this current Universe Survival saga that's the clear runaway favourite at the moment. So people do seem to be enjoying it at least.

People don't seem to be too fussed with the first three sagas though, they only make up 15% of the vote lol.

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Post by Kanassa » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:25 am

Bullza wrote:So kinda random but on the Dragon Ball wiki's main page I made a poll asking what peoples favourite saga was so far.

I really expected the Future Trunks saga would get the most votes easily but no it's actually this current Universe Survival saga that's the clear runaway favourite at the moment. So people do seem to be enjoying it at least.

People don't seem to be too fussed with the first three sagas though, they only make up 15% of the vote lol.
How many people were involved with this vote?
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:30 am

Bullza wrote:So kinda random but on the Dragon Ball wiki's main page I made a poll asking what peoples favourite saga was so far.

I really expected the Future Trunks saga would get the most votes easily but no it's actually this current Universe Survival saga that's the clear runaway favourite at the moment. So people do seem to be enjoying it at least.

People don't seem to be too fussed with the first three sagas though, they only make up 15% of the vote lol.
Of course people are. It's only on Kanzenshuu where it feels like there is a negative stigma surrounding this arc.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:39 am

Kanassa wrote: How many people were involved with this vote?
Around a 100+, represents half of DB fans eh? :lol:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: Of course people are. It's only on Kanzenshuu where it feels like there is a negative stigma surrounding this arc.
Have you been to forums other than kanzenshuu? like say MAL,CV,AV,reddit,animesuki,mangahelpers (and these are only counting the ones I go to and check from time to time) and they're not really all that hyped about this arc, tho they do think its slightly better than the RF one so its not the worst :lol:
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Post by Kinokima » Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:40 am

Bullza wrote:So kinda random but on the Dragon Ball wiki's main page I made a poll asking what peoples favourite saga was so far.

I really expected the Future Trunks saga would get the most votes easily but no it's actually this current Universe Survival saga that's the clear runaway favourite at the moment. So people do seem to be enjoying it at least.

People don't seem to be too fussed with the first three sagas though, they only make up 15% of the vote lol.

Although that could also be because it's current. I think until some considerable time has passed it may actually be hard to gauge what the most popular arc is.

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Post by Bullza » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:56 am

Kanassa wrote:How many people were involved with this vote?
Oh it's only about 130 people so far but the poll has only been up 3 days. It'll probably get a few thousand votes before I change it again.
Kinokima wrote:Although that could also be because it's current. I think until some considerable time has passed it may actually be hard to gauge what the most popular arc is.
I don't know how much it would affect the vote, probably a little. The Universe 6 saga is what's current in the US and that hardly has any votes.

By the time it's all finished I do expect that the latest two sagas will still be considered a lot better than the three prior to it.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:58 am

Thr Universal Survival arc should get better from now if they get the fights right.

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Post by Kinokima » Sat Sep 30, 2017 9:27 am

Bullza wrote:
I don't know how much it would affect the vote, probably a little. The Universe 6 saga is what's current in the US and that hardly has any votes.

By the time it's all finished I do expect that the latest two sagas will still be considered a lot better than the three prior to it.

Technically speaking what's current in the US is also the TOP arc. The only fans who haven't seen it would be those who wanted to wait for the dub.

But I bet more fans in the US are up-to-date with the series than those waiting for the dub.


Though I think you are right I think most fans seem to think the Future Trunks arc is when things kicked into gear.

I actually enjoyed the Universe 6 arc but the first two were just longer versions of the films and there was definitely a lot of criticism about that.

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:56 am

I think ToP is better than the RoF arc, but that's a low bar and we don't know how this arc ends yet.

Even so, still hoping we get a new ad with new footage tonight.
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Post by GodVegetto91 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:21 am

Chuquita wrote:I think ToP is better than the RoF arc, but that's a low bar and we don't know how this arc ends yet.

Even so, still hoping we get a new ad with new footage tonight.
Is that likely?
I sure hope we do get another trailer!

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:41 am

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Chuquita wrote:I think ToP is better than the RoF arc, but that's a low bar and we don't know how this arc ends yet.

Even so, still hoping we get a new ad with new footage tonight.
Is that likely?
I sure hope we do get another trailer!
We haven't gotten our equivalent of the One Piece ad where they compared Luffy vs Sanji to Julius Caesar and Brutus (and daVinci's The Last Supper) so I'm expecting there to be a full three minute ad for dbs too. It'll probably be mostly text like the One Piece ad is, but it'd be strange for them to get one and us not to considering it's been double billed.
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Post by perucho1990 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 11:58 am

The Top should be better dubbed, well for me in the spanish dub they removed all of the atatatatatas and made the U6 Arc much more enjoyable.

There are lots of atatatatatas in the ToP arc that is very distracting.

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Post by SansrivaaL » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:00 pm

perucho1990 wrote: There are lots of atatatatatas in the ToP arc that is very distracting.
Were there other characters going atatatatata other than Gohan and Goku? I couldnt notice at all since Nozawa's stood out too much, and not in a good way.

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:57 pm

Bullza wrote:
Kanassa wrote:How many people were involved with this vote?
Oh it's only about 130 people so far but the poll has only been up 3 days. It'll probably get a few thousand votes before I change it again.
Kinokima wrote:Although that could also be because it's current. I think until some considerable time has passed it may actually be hard to gauge what the most popular arc is.
I don't know how much it would affect the vote, probably a little. The Universe 6 saga is what's current in the US and that hardly has any votes.

By the time it's all finished I do expect that the latest two sagas will still be considered a lot better than the three prior to it.
I think the U6 arc will be a little more fondly remebered when all is done since it kicks off the events of the ToP and the Future Trunks arc. Maybe it'll get a special one day to touch up the shoddy animation. If any of the arcs could get that treatment I think the U6 arc would be the best fit since it's so short.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:13 pm

Kinokima wrote:
Bullza wrote:So kinda random but on the Dragon Ball wiki's main page I made a poll asking what peoples favourite saga was so far.

I really expected the Future Trunks saga would get the most votes easily but no it's actually this current Universe Survival saga that's the clear runaway favourite at the moment. So people do seem to be enjoying it at least.

People don't seem to be too fussed with the first three sagas though, they only make up 15% of the vote lol.

Although that could also be because it's current. I think until some considerable time has passed it may actually be hard to gauge what the most popular arc is.
Well of course, this arc was also the first to receive actual marketing out of Japan (eg massive key visual outside Anime Expo). Toei and FUNimation are now pushing a marketing drive for this upcoming special.

Ultimately gauging which individual arcs will be popular is I feel is impossible, Super itself is popular and continues to be that's all that can be really gauged and what matters. For example in the U.S a retelling of a movie already available outsells the Buu arc to the point stock literally ran before it even came out, am I to say that the BoG arc of DBS is more popular than the Buu arc? No because there are always different factors to consider.

(BoG arc's success really does speak volumes about DBS).

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Post by Bullza » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:15 pm

Kinokima wrote:Though I think you are right I think most fans seem to think the Future Trunks arc is when things kicked into gear.

I actually enjoyed the Universe 6 arc but the first two were just longer versions of the films and there was definitely a lot of criticism about that.
The Future Trunks saga really went a long way in turning the shows reception around, it saved the show in a way.

I thought the Battle of Gods saga was pretty solid but I can see why it or especially the Resurrection F saga wouldn't be thought that highly of. The Universe 6 saga was better than both but I don't see why people would vote for that over the current saga.

It's definitely better now than it was in the first couple years though.

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Post by Kinokima » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:40 pm

Bullza wrote:
Kinokima wrote:Though I think you are right I think most fans seem to think the Future Trunks arc is when things kicked into gear.

I actually enjoyed the Universe 6 arc but the first two were just longer versions of the films and there was definitely a lot of criticism about that.
The Future Trunks saga really went a long way in turning the shows reception around, it saved the show in a way.

I thought the Battle of Gods saga was pretty solid but I can see why it or especially the Resurrection F saga wouldn't be thought that highly of. The Universe 6 saga was better than both but I don't see why people would vote for that over the current saga.

It's definitely better now than it was in the first couple years though.

Well as far as the films go I liked BOG much more than ROF but as I was marathoning I skipped most of the episodes of these arcs except for episodes which has entirely new stuff or episodes that covered scenes I really enjoyed in the movie. I can see how people watching Super from the start could see these two arcs as a
slog but when you are marathoning it's less of a problem. I did decide not to buy the BR for these arcs yet (may change my mind later) and will start with Set 3 which starts the Universe 6 arc.


As for Universe 6 vs Future Trunks actually I think they both have their flaws and pluses

I actually thought Universe 6 was a fun arc which introduced some fun new characters. My major complaint is how they misused both Piccolo and Buu. I think both characters deserved better.

I did highly enjoy all 3 of Vegeta's fights and Goku vs Hit was great. I also really liked how this arc ended with Goku voluntarily jumping out of the ring and then Hit doing the same with Monaka. I said I don't usually care about the ultimate winner of a tournament arc but I loved how this one concluded. A perfect ending.


Future Trunks had some truly great dramatic moments and some of the best villains in DB history but unlike Universe 6 it actually has a really disappointing ending. I would say this arc has a lot of great moments that I absolutely loved but a lot of those moments amounted to nothing & the ending does sour things quite a bit.

Although I did love seeing Future Trunks again and how he got to interact with a much more caring Vegeta. Future Mai was also a terrific character. But other flaws were how time travel worked in this story and Trunks sudden blue hair.


This arc is still ongoing so I reserve judgement till the end.

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Post by Torturephile » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:55 pm

I've been rewatching the first three sagas because they were finally dubbed in Latin America. The Battle of Gods saga seemed better as the padding felt lower than when it came out in Japan. I would rate it a 6 nowadays instead of 5/10 back then. The F arc was like I remembered it: bad, despite its good start, it went downhill since episode 22 and didn't recover until its last episode. The U7 vs. U6 tournament arc actually seemed worse than I remembered it, less entertaining and eventful.
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Post by HeroR » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:00 pm

Bullza wrote:
Kinokima wrote:Though I think you are right I think most fans seem to think the Future Trunks arc is when things kicked into gear.

I actually enjoyed the Universe 6 arc but the first two were just longer versions of the films and there was definitely a lot of criticism about that.
The Future Trunks saga really went a long way in turning the shows reception around, it saved the show in a way.

I thought the Battle of Gods saga was pretty solid but I can see why it or especially the Resurrection F saga wouldn't be thought that highly of. The Universe 6 saga was better than both but I don't see why people would vote for that over the current saga.

It's definitely better now than it was in the first couple years though.
It really didn’t since Super was already popular. The Future Trunks Saga just made it more popular.
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Post by Chuquita » Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:08 pm

The Future Trunks arc was fun (mostly due to Rosé imo) but had way too many endings. I still contend that the Trunks kills merged Zamasu for good with his genki dama sword would've been the best one to end on (it's cheesy but I don't care). Omni King stole Future Trunks' happy ending from him and left me unsatisfied.
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