Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Vegard Aune]

he idea is that the Fusion technique is making a comeback, so "Revival of Fusion" fits that. Something like "Fusion of the Revival" arguably works as a literal translation, but makes very little sense and so doesn't really convey the title's intended meaning.

Didn't that movie come out back when Fusion was still the new hot thing in the manga and TV-series though? I seem to recall someone bringing up that several of the DBZ-movies were basically playing on whatever the new thing in the series at that time was. Fighting the Saiyans? Here, have a movie where Goku faces a Saiyan who looks just like him! Namek, and talk of the legendary Super Saiyan? Here's a movie where Goku fights a Namekian and becomes a Super Saiyan! Freeza, the ACTUAL Super Saiyan? Goku fights his brother and transforms again! Scientific creations, Vegeta has learned to transform? Vegeta and Goku team up against an army of mecha-Coolas! And so on... With that said, does "Revival of Fusion" really make sense when it hadn't even gone anywhere at that point in the serialization? I actually see more sense in the "Fusion of the Revival"-interpretation, in the sense that Goku and Vegeta are fighting a losing battle but ultimately make a comeback and manage to win the fight afer fusing.

...And on that note I also think "F for Revival" makes more sense for the title of this movie. Double-meanings and all that. The title itself specifies the letter as meaning Revival, but it can also be short for Freeza.

[EmmaWinters]

Didn't that movie come out back when Fusion was still the new hot thing in the manga and TV-series though? ... With that said, does "Revival of Fusion" really make sense when it hadn't even gone anywhere at that point in the serialization? I

Dragon Ball was on its final chapters when Rebirth of Fusion came out, so it was still new-ish I suppose.

I actually see more sense in the "Fusion of the Revival"-interpretation, in the sense that Goku and Vegeta are fighting a losing battle but ultimately make a comeback and manage to win the fight afer fusing.

That's a huge leap.
I can't see how anyone could interpret 復活のフュージョン as anything other than Fusion making a return (being revived).
There are only so many ways to phrase that.

[miguelnuva1]

This would be a good time for AT to introduce one final True Legendary SUper Saiyan form for just Goku now that it looks like he is trying to phase SSJ out of DBZ.

[danielsan_190196]

Whoa! Simultaneous release!?

I did a quick translation of the Spanish Wikipedia page for the site:

"Ultracine is an Argentinian Reference site for cinema, online that documents daily film attendance of various countries in Latin America, including Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, & Paraguay. Moreover it keeps records of upcoming releases and statistics for the largest cinemas in those countries and a section for industry news and analysis. It offers conservation of information updated daily by spectators, charts and annual attendance rates."

Based on that last bit, it seems anyone can add or modify information.

Nope, the last part is mistranslated

[Vegard Aune]

Didn't that movie come out back when Fusion was still the new hot thing in the manga and TV-series though? ... With that said, does "Revival of Fusion" really make sense when it hadn't even gone anywhere at that point in the serialization? I

Dragon Ball was on its final chapters when Rebirth of Fusion came out, so it was still new-ish I suppose.

I checked... Movie 12 came out between episodes 258 and 259, and as for the manga, between chapters 508 and 509. So for the manga, just as the final battle against Boo in the Kaioshin world was starting, whereas for the anime it was... right in the middle of Gotenks's fight with Boo. So as far as the anime goes, Fusion was still very relevant at that point.

That's a huge leap.
I can't see how anyone could interpret 復活のフュージョン as anything other than Fusion making a return (being revived).
There are only so many ways to phrase that.

I don't see it as any more of a leap than any other overdramatic, overly excited title that somewhat oversells the events it's referring to. Though in fairness, looking through the episode titles, I did see "Fukkatsu no Vegeta" in reference to the episode where Vegeta wakes up after his fight with Goku, and clearly in that instance the only logical way to see it would be in a "Vegeta's back!" kind of way. (The actual translation provided on the site being "Vegeta Recovers!!"
Still I see my interpretation of that movie's title to be more probable than "Fusion is back at last... though it hasn't even left yet."
Although this is all just tangential anyway. All I'm saying is, I don't think "F for Revival" is an invalid translation for this film's title... though it is one where the double-meaning is naturally completely lost in English so in that regard, "Revival of F" makes more sense.

[MCDaveG]

Didn't that movie come out back when Fusion was still the new hot thing in the manga and TV-series though? ... With that said, does "Revival of Fusion" really make sense when it hadn't even gone anywhere at that point in the serialization? I

Dragon Ball was on its final chapters when Rebirth of Fusion came out, so it was still new-ish I suppose.

I checked... Movie 12 came out between episodes 258 and 259, and as for the manga, between chapters 508 and 509. So for the manga, just as the final battle against Boo in the Kaioshin world was starting, whereas for the anime it was... right in the middle of Gotenks's fight with Boo. So as far as the anime goes, Fusion was still very relevant at that point.

That's a huge leap.
I can't see how anyone could interpret 復活のフュージョン as anything other than Fusion making a return (being revived).
There are only so many ways to phrase that.

I don't see it as any more of a leap than any other overdramatic, overly excited title that somewhat oversells the events it's referring to. Though in fairness, looking through the episode titles, I did see "Fukkatsu no Vegeta" in reference to the episode where Vegeta wakes up after his fight with Goku, and clearly in that instance the only logical way to see it would be in a "Vegeta's back!" kind of way. (The actual translation provided on the site being "Vegeta Recovers!!"
Still I see my interpretation of that movie's title to be more probable than "Fusion is back at last... though it hasn't even left yet."
Although this is all just tangential anyway. All I'm saying is, I don't think "F for Revival" is an invalid translation for this film's title... though it is one where the double-meaning is naturally completely lost in English so in that regard, "Revival of F" makes more sense.

And what exactly is your point Vengar? You are just playing with words too much and I have a hard time to solve what do actually want to show?
Because it doesn't make sense, it is Revival of Freeza, in the Movie 12, it is Revival of Fusion, as Goku established it in anime as tool for Goten and Trunks to fight Buu and they are ''reviving'' it as a tool for Goku and Vegeta.

[UpFromTheSkies]

This would be a good time for AT to introduce one final True Legendary SUper Saiyan form for just Goku now that it looks like he is trying to phase SSJ out of DBZ.

I hope this doesn't happen. The only other transformation I'd like to see is if they get their tails back and become great apes again.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I think Goku and Bejita both loose the SSJ ability because they are not used to the Godly ki and need to start all over again.

But BoG & Toriyama himself confirm that Goku doesn't need SS because he has gotten used to the SSGod power...

Of course, the JSAT special and BoG seem to show Goku breaking this rule and teleporting around freely.

When did that happen in BoG?

[Barunks]

This would be a good time for AT to introduce one final True Legendary SUper Saiyan form for just Goku now that it looks like he is trying to phase SSJ out of DBZ.

I hope this doesn't happen. The only other transformation I'd like to see is if they get their tails back and become great apes again.

Or maybe tranform into a certain form that combines super saiyan and great ape....

[GogesusSSG]

This would be a good time for AT to introduce one final True Legendary SUper Saiyan form for just Goku now that it looks like he is trying to phase SSJ out of DBZ.

I hope this doesn't happen. The only other transformation I'd like to see is if they get their tails back and become great apes again.

Or maybe tranform into a certain form that combines super saiyan and great ape....

In the unlikely event they feel the need to restore their tails, then Buu's healing beam that he used on Babidi to restore his limbs that he probably couldn't regrow on his own (he also gives sight to a kid who's been blind since birth) could be used on one of the saiyans; but AT has probably forgotten Buu is even capable of healing at all.

[Regarder]

This would be a good time for AT to introduce one final True Legendary SUper Saiyan form for just Goku now that it looks like he is trying to phase SSJ out of DBZ.

I hope this doesn't happen. The only other transformation I'd like to see is if they get their tails back and become great apes again.

Kaioken would be good. Goku realizes that he can still multiply his power that way. He's a little rusty though. Also, maybe it's Shinkaioken because now it has to truthfully multiply God power safely, so it's a yet new technique to extend Goku's power, if you can believe it.

[bleed0range]

Regardless of what Toriyama said in the interviews, I feel like Battle of Gods itself already provides an explanation (which could end up being wrong, but seems like the direction they are heading IMO).

Goku dropped out of Super Saiyan God, fought in base form and then even jumped into Super Saiyan all without noticing he was transforming. Beerus is the one who tells him he's no longer a Super Saiyan God, as well as mentioning to us that his ki has barely changed, and he is surprised when he hears it. So much so that Goku has to physically look at himself to confirm it. So apparently his power stayed the same the whole fight (save when he raised his ki himself, using it for attacks, or taking damage), despite swapping through 3 forms, because he didn't notice anything was different. To me, this means that:

1. Once he lost Super Saiyan God, he absorbed all that power and made it his own. Which Beerus told us and Toriyama confirmed.
2. All of said power is available in his base form, as he didn't immediately get his ass kicked by Beerus.
3. Even though he subconsciously went Super Saiyan, his base power didn't get boosted, or else he should have stomped Beerus if he grew significantly stronger.

So, similarly to Gohan it seems, he has access to his Super Saiyan transformations still and can use them if he really wants, but they just don't do anything for him in terms of power since he now has God Ki? Maybe God Ki and transformations designed for regular ki just don't mix? Can't really say anything on the specifics.

Everyone is ignoring the fact that Beerus specifically stated that he absorbed the SSJ God power into his body which is why his powers did not DRASTICALLY reduce his power when he lost the SSJ God transformation. He tells him this while he is transformed into a SSJ. All the God power did was boost his overall power by a huge amount. He can still transform into a SSJ to increase that power, but he did not regain ALL of the power of a SSJ God once he absorbed it.

It seems he can sporadically transform back into the magenta colored hair version of SSJ God but not at will, and that's when he gets ALL of the power of a God back. As he does this to stop the energy ball from Beerus. He is drawn to look just like SSJ God with the hair/eyes, etc. So think of his absorption of those powers as like a huge power-up to his base form but he can still increase that power with a SSJ transformation and he has a hidden bit of the God form in him that he cannot control.

[Freeza Heika]

I did a quick translation of the Spanish Wikipedia page for the site:

"Ultracine is an Argentinian Reference site for cinema, online that documents daily film attendance of various countries in Latin America, including Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, & Paraguay. Moreover it keeps records of upcoming releases and statistics for the largest cinemas in those countries and a section for industry news and analysis. It offers conservation of information updated daily by spectators, charts and annual attendance rates."

Based on that last bit, it seems anyone can add or modify information.

Nope, the last part is mistranslated

Saying that without providing a more accurate, English translation makes saying that literally useless to everyone.

[Beerus-sama]

^that quote looks like you're replying to yourself

I did a quick translation of the Spanish Wikipedia page for the site:

"Ultracine is an Argentinian Reference site for cinema, online that documents daily film attendance of various countries in Latin America, including Argentina, Uruguay, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, & Paraguay. Moreover it keeps records of upcoming releases and statistics for the largest cinemas in those countries and a section for industry news and analysis. It offers conservation of information updated daily by spectators, charts and annual attendance rates."

Based on that last bit, it seems anyone can add or modify information.

Nope, the last part is mistranslated

mmm... I'm a bit confused here (and I am a native spanish speaker)... I see a lot of words that just seem to be there to confuse people (or for not getting to the point) so its not wrong to interpretate it as Freeza Heika did .

to put it simple it says that thanks to the information granted by spectators they offer annual attendance charts.

So what I get is that its a site based just on speculation of cinema attendance.
it doesn't say that its updated by the spectators, but they take information from spectators so it isn't an official source.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Everyone is ignoring the fact that Beerus specifically stated that he absorbed the SSJ God power into his body which is why his powers did not DRASTICALLY reduce his power when he lost the SSJ God transformation. He tells him this while he is transformed into a SSJ. All the God power did was boost his overall power by a huge amount. He can still transform into a SSJ to increase that power, but he did not regain ALL of the power of a SSJ God once he absorbed it.

It seems he can sporadically transform back into the magenta colored hair version of SSJ God but not at will, and that's when he gets ALL of the power of a God back. As he does this to stop the energy ball from Beerus. He is drawn to look just like SSJ God with the hair/eyes, etc. So think of his absorption of those powers as like a huge power-up to his base form but he can still increase that power with a SSJ transformation and he has a hidden bit of the God form in him that he cannot control.

I'm not ignoring anything. That just doesn't make sense given everything else shown. If Goku absorbed the God power in base and his energy dropped significantly before he went Super Saiyan, I'm fairly certain he'd be WTF'ing over where most of his power went. We've seen him do it before, like with the SS3 drain in the Buu Arc. Instead he's completely oblivious to the changes. By the point Beerus mentions anything, the power loss is likely just from the energy Goku's been expelling and damage he has been taking.

The Super Saiyan God feat at the end of the film doesn't seem like it makes him stronger than he was before. To me, it seems kinda like the SS transformation in the Freeza Arc. Goku is tired and getting weaker from the battle. The transformation briefly takes him back to full power (not beyond what he's capable of without it), but his stamina is so low that the time limit barely lasts until after he takes care of Beerus' attack.

[coola]

As I'm reading some Youtube commentaries, i wonder why so many people have problems with Master Roshi joining fight, in DBZ Moive 4, some Slug henchman were strong enough to damage Gohan, while two of them were so weak, they were one hit K.O'ed by Chi-Chi. I just hope there will be no one hit K.O of Z-Warriors, i hate when movies do that

[MrKaytos]

Selecta Visión is also working really hard for the simulcast in Spain: http://misiontokyo.com/noticias/dragon- ... -en-espana We published the information 2 weeks ago on Misión Tokyo España.



It seems that something huge is going to happen around the world with Dragon Ball Z Fukkatsu No F *crossing fingers*

[Baggie_Saiyan]

It seems that something huge is going to happen around the world with Dragon Ball Z Fukkatsu No F *crossing fingers*

Considering how well BoG did worldwide it wouldn't surprise me if Toei allowed a simultaneous release worldwide. Well at least I hope they do!

[JulieYBM]

It's not up to Toei Animation to decided whether the film gets a simultaneous release or not. They do not have every single right to the film.

[Hellspawn28]

I still think the movie won't be out until 2016. I think 2015 will be done and over with before you know it. I think our movie release pattern will be like this:

2013 Japan: BOG
2014 US: BOG
2015 Japan: ROF
2016 US: ROF
2017 Japan: DBZ Movie 16
2018 US: DBZ Movie 16
2019 Japan: DBZ Movie 17
2020: DBZ Movie 17