"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[LightBing]

Saw the trailer for Cooler...He almost seemed like a clone of Freeza, and if that's the case I'm going to be very disappointed.

What? With the exception of that dive super he's almost the opposite of Freeza. He seems like a better Broly from this very limited look.

[FoolsGil]

Saw the trailer for Cooler...He almost seemed like a clone of Freeza, and if that's the case I'm going to be very disappointed.

What? With the exception of that dive super he's almost the opposite of Freeza. He seems like a better Broly from this very limited look.

He also had the Death Ball

[LightBing]

Saw the trailer for Cooler...He almost seemed like a clone of Freeza, and if that's the case I'm going to be very disappointed.

What? With the exception of that dive super he's almost the opposite of Freeza. He seems like a better Broly from this very limited look.

He also had the Death Ball

But the move seems very different, It's a grab with a short sequence of punches. If you're talking about being a similar move appearance wise" big ball throw at the ground", then this game, no all of Dragon Ball is full of it, just look at all the Kamehameha's. Hell Zamasu's level 1 super is more similar than this.

[Logania]

With that ground tremor move he does, it looks like it covers the entire area, so I hope that it's blockable not on just low, because with how fast that move is it could be annoying. (Flashbacks of Jax's tremor move from Mortal Kombat X)

[KayDash]

It's not even the Death Ball, it's the Supernova, and Frieza only uses it in the Bardock dramatic finish.

[LightBing]

It's not even the Death Ball, it's the Supernova, and Frieza only uses it in the Bardock dramatic finish.

It's Freeza's level 1 in this game.

[jjgp1112]

Well, you've been wrong about everything concerning FighterZ from sales to gameplay so far, so..

You shouldn't be so obsessed with me.

Also I said it wouldn't sell as well as the Xenoverse games and so far it hasn't. Nor likely will it.

...it's selling at a faster rate than either game, and that's WITHOUT Switch sales.

If you have to start cherry picking to crazy degrees you risk undermining yourself and being seen as a petty antagonist

[Brodes]

Well, you've been wrong about everything concerning FighterZ from sales to gameplay so far, so..

You shouldn't be so obsessed with me.

Also I said it wouldn't sell as well as the Xenoverse games and so far it hasn't. Nor likely will it.

...it's selling at a faster rate than either game, and that's WITHOUT Switch sales.

If you have to start cherry picking to crazy degrees you risk undermining yourself and being seen as a petty antagonist

Has it even been out for a full year on the other platforms, yet? It still has plenty of time to overtake or 'just' make up the difference, and it's a 2D fighter that is selling really well in 2018, for a series that a lot of people think is retro and aren't aware of a continuation. That's impressive on it's own even if it doesn't overtake Xenoverse.

[Zamasu55]

Base Goku is okay I guess.
Base Vegeta is just garbage.

Cooler on the other hand is good.

[Bullza]

...it's selling at a faster rate than either game, and that's WITHOUT Switch sales.

It sold at a faster rate as of the same point but FighterZ has already showed to have had a steeper slow down as well.

The Xenoverse games have proved to be especially leggy games, still selling very well after all this time. The two games have sold 1.7 million copies since February though most those sales would go to Xenoverse 2.

FighterZ sold about 0.8 million copies from February to May.

In the long run its not likely going to sell as well as the Xenoverse games.

[Kataphrut]

Having seen a breakdown, I'm keen for base Goku. He lacks a low 2L, but he has a low 2S of all things that looks pretty cool. Shooting a blast up from under the opponent that can be used for a teleport divekick followup. Based on the move he used against Freeza when he was underwater incidentally.

Apparently the only way to reliably combo into his level 3 Spirit Bomb is to hit the opponent with a fully charged regular spirit bomb, which launches the opponent up so he can catch them with the big one on the way down. The payoff is huge, the combo does something like 70 per cent damage. Unfortunately, it looks like it will be very difficult to charge the basic spirit bomb (214S once to charge, again to throw) without a good assist to cover, so hooray for more SS Vegeta forcing.

Speaking of Vegeta, his base form has a low 2L and his basic quarter-circle forward is a flying kick similar to what the other two versions have. I was afraid he'd be another Bardock, ie they can't make him interesting so they just make him hypercompetent and that's looking more and more like the case. Most interesting thing about him is his 214S, which is an OTG command grab that can't be comboed, but can lead directly into either of his supers. Basically what he used to kill Nappa, we saw it in the EVO trailer. That looks like it could be a good combo ender.

[Jackal puFF]

Can I ask why? Seems kind pointless to ignore the when they're not exactly long and a lot of the characters make a ton of video game appearances.

Just not interested in DB stories not made or guided by Toriyama. Haven't seen GT, either. I think if I do watch them they'll taint my perception of the series. Maybe now they wouldn't, but if I grew up watching them, or watched them before Super/Toriyama's reinvolvement, I think they would have given me ideas and expectations that I'd be better of not having.

Besides, I still know a lot about them just by osmosis. Which is why Cooler's face mask thing surprised me. I've seen a ton of him in fan art and promos but never with that mask down.

So, you've never seen his transformation scene? Your ignorance is painful.

Ignoring the movies that has characters that Toriyama himself designed. The ignorance is painful. Anyways lol I really like his transformation in the movies. Would be neat if there's some kind of metal Cooler easter egg somehow. I can't wait for the cutscene and interactions with Frieza and Bardock.

My biggest concern now is if Android 17 will have his mir shirt.

[Grimlock]

I can't wait for the cutscene and interactions with Frieza and Bardock.

Oh yeah, I'm also expecting a good dialogue with Bardock, I don't really remember if he ever acknowledged Cooler as Freeza's brother before in any game, so this may be the first time that happens.

[ShadowBardock89]

Saw the trailer for Cooler...He almost seemed like a clone of Freeza, and if that's the case I'm going to be very disappointed.

What? With the exception of that dive super he's almost the opposite of Freeza. He seems like a better Broly from this very limited look.

He also had the Death Ball

Supernova, actually.

From what I've seen, Cooler is definitely NOT a clone.

[Logania]

Anyone have any news about when the August balance patch is coming? I'd like it to be alongside Goku and Vegeta, but maybe they're not finished with the changes yet.

[goku the krump dancer]

Saw the trailer for Cooler...He almost seemed like a clone of Freeza, and if that's the case I'm going to be very disappointed.

Bro... WHAT.. Look at Freeza's Trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBpSN5eUTcs then look at Coolers again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBpSN5eUTcs .Cooler is clearly the Brute while Freeza is the Projectile focused type. If you cant see at the very least THAT MUCH then i'll probably just refrain from having conversations on this specific topic of "Clones" or whatever. It's literally going nowhere at this point and is more so people just being angry that their favorite "So and So" new character isn't in the game.

Its really discouraging folks, if you feel like your character is missing in this game 9 times out of 10 they're in Xenoverse.. Go play that instead please.

[Simere]

So, you've never seen his transformation scene? Your ignorance is painful.

Why is it painful? Where is it painful?

Oh for god's sake, here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rgd5H4LrgI

Well, I've seen it now.

Why? Because they’re not in the main timeline?

Yes.

Fanart and promos mean jack, mate. You won't have movies that have had character designs done by Toriyama on a number of occasions (including Coola), as well as checking over the plot and script, but you consider fanart a reference?

"Mean jack", matey, arrr? Yes, fan art can be used as a reference for how characters appear at different points in the story. That's not strange. What's strange is I never saw fan art(or promos) with the mask down, considering how cool it looks. I would have expected there to be a lot more.

Ignoring the movies that has characters that Toriyama himself designed. The ignorance is painful.

Another guy with asspain. Hey, what movie is about to come out? Broly, right? Toriyama designed Broly, didn't he? Then I guess this movie must be continuing where those movies left off. There were three of them, right?

Oh, wait. DBS: Broly isn't taking into account the history of those movies? Toriyama's going to change the background and context of Broly to be in accordance with his vision, not Takao Koyama's, because designing a character isn't the same thing as characterizing the character and scripting the story? Just like he did with Bardock? That's what I fucking thought.

You guys are weirdly mad I didn't know this irrelevant trivia about an irrelevant character. It was just an amusement to me I missed something that big, but you guys are getting your butts hurt for some reason.

[Nickolaidas]

Saw the trailer for Cooler...He almost seemed like a clone of Freeza, and if that's the case I'm going to be very disappointed.

Gil, I love you my man, but you're flat out wrong on this one.

Cooler seems to be a mix of Broly and Frieza. More Broly, tbh. He seems to be a charger, with a little zoning and grappling on the side. He'll definitely fare better than Frieza in competitive matches, unless his attacks leave him greatly exposed to counters afterwards.

There are a few things that worry me, basically the fact that a lot of his moves end up with him throwing away his opponent and creating distance - which reduces his ability to constantly be over the opponent and causing pressure. He may be a character in need of assists in order to keep foes pinned down.

I may be wrong - I'm no pro player, we'll see.

[KayDash]

It's not even the Death Ball, it's the Supernova, and Frieza only uses it in the Bardock dramatic finish.

It's Freeza's level 1 in this game.

No.

[Brodes]

Fanart and promos mean jack, mate. You won't have movies that have had character designs done by Toriyama on a number of occasions (including Coola), as well as checking over the plot and script, but you consider fanart a reference?

"Mean jack", matey, arrr? Yes, fan art can be used as a reference for how characters appear at different points in the story. That's not strange. What's strange is I never saw fan art(or promos) with the mask down, considering how cool it looks. I would have expected there to be a lot more.

Do you even know what 'means jack', well, means? Also, I'm going to let you know we use mate in Australia, and it has nothing to do with pirates, for our friends and we use mate with a different inflection as a warning. Thanks for letting me know I don't need to interact with you in the future.

I'm guessing that 17 will be released alongside Coola as the DLC pair in the future.