"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Alruneia]

Not to mention they could pull off a namek in the last 5 minutes.

oh no

That’s assuming they used the entire 48 minutes instead of having one universe win before time runs out.

Of course. That's why I wrote "the tournament would run out of time". The point of that second paragraph was to talk about a possibility where time runs out before a winner is declared. I thought that was pretty clear; sorry if it wasn't.

[PMD]

I like the idea of the tournament running out of time and still each universe with one warrior left. I can see Goku, Jiren, Ribrianne, Damon (?) and Hit still standing and the Zenos deciding a battle to death or something like that to decide which universe is the winner. Or maybe they just decide that all those universes will survive since they couldn't believe such strong warriors were part of the "weaker" universes.

[Kanassa]

I like the idea of the tournament running out of time and still each universe with one warrior left. I can see Goku, Jiren, Ribrianne, Damon (?) and Hit still standing and the Zenos deciding a battle to death or something like that to decide which universe is the winner. Or maybe they just decide that all those universes will survive since they couldn't believe such strong warriors were part of the "weaker" universes.

Plot twist: Zeno decides to settle this with a game of who can make him laugh the most, but King Kai doesn't lend his aid because Goku never wished him back!

[hardcorefakes]

Cool? Yeah. Original, no. And SSJ4 had black hair too.

SSJ4 is non-canon. So that argument is already invalid. And you're wrong, it IS an original design.

How is that invalid?? You said it was the first transformation to have the black hair. That's flat out wrong. Whether it's "canon" or not, (not like DBS is definitively canon either) is not the point because it has nothing to do with the point.

Also, how? Base form hair with silver eyes isn't very original.

Well...the difference between this form and SSJ4 is that SSJ4 looked really, really stupid, while this form actually looks more grounded.

[TheOne]

SSJ4 is non-canon. So that argument is already invalid. And you're wrong, it IS an original design.

How is that invalid?? You said it was the first transformation to have the black hair. That's flat out wrong. Whether it's "canon" or not, (not like DBS is definitively canon either) is not the point because it has nothing to do with the point.

Also, how? Base form hair with silver eyes isn't very original.

Well...the difference between this form and SSJ4 is that SSJ4 looked really, really stupid, while this form actually looks more grounded.

Don't say that like it's a fact. It's your opinion.

While a Lot of people aren't fans of GT in general, I've seen a lot of good responses on here concerning SSJ4. I personally really liked it. It's all personal taste.

[GodVegetto91]

How exactly does 2 episodes in a row equal an hour when each episode is 23:22 minutes? Wouldn't that equal 46:44 minutes? Or am i missing something here?

[dbgtFO]

How exactly does 2 episodes in a row equal an hour when each episode is 23:22 minutes? Wouldn't that equal 46:44 minutes? Or am i missing something here?

Because of commercial breaks. That's what the eyecatches are for after all.

[Kanassa]

How exactly does 2 episodes in a row equal an hour when each episode is 23:22 minutes? Wouldn't that equal 46:44 minutes? Or am i missing something here?

It takes up an hour timeslot, so it's advertised as such, even if it's only really around 40 minutes

[TheMikado]

SSJ4 is non-canon. So that argument is already invalid. And you're wrong, it IS an original design.

How is that invalid?? You said it was the first transformation to have the black hair. That's flat out wrong. Whether it's "canon" or not, (not like DBS is definitively canon either) is not the point because it has nothing to do with the point.

Also, how? Base form hair with silver eyes isn't very original.

Well...the difference between this form and SSJ4 is that SSJ4 looked really, really stupid, while this form actually looks more grounded.

Opinions how do they work? But seriously there are certainly legitimate design critiques you can make overall but stating an opinion as fact isn’t really valid at all.

[Alruneia]

I like the idea of the tournament running out of time and still each universe with one warrior left. I can see Goku, Jiren, Ribrianne, Damon (?) and Hit still standing and the Zenos deciding a battle to death or something like that to decide which universe is the winner. Or maybe they just decide that all those universes will survive since they couldn't believe such strong warriors were part of the "weaker" universes.

Plot twist: Zeno decides to settle this with a game of who can make him laugh the most, but King Kai doesn't lend his aid because Goku never wished him back!

And then Goku unintentionally pulls the muffin joke and wins.

Spoiler:

Two muffins are sitting in an oven. Suddenly, one says "Hot enough for ya?" The other replies "Woah, a talking muffin!"

[Kanassa]

Opinions how do they work? stating an opinion as fact isn’t really valid at all.

Surreal. This is like Perucho calling someone out on talking about the poor camels...

[TheMikado]

Opinions how do they work? stating an opinion as fact isn’t really valid at all.

Surreal. This is like Perucho calling someone out on talking about the poor camels...

Show me an opinion on mine stated as fact and you win the internet prize.

[Lord Frieza]

I was wondering about Jiren's title "The Grey", Remind me of a very old character, often considered the first super hero.

Doc Savage' The Man of Bronze.

[GodVegetto91]

How exactly does 2 episodes in a row equal an hour when each episode is 23:22 minutes? Wouldn't that equal 46:44 minutes? Or am i missing something here?

Because of commercial breaks. That's what the eyecatches are for after all.

That's a long break than.

[Miracles]

You have got to love just how much of a dick Frieza is.

Picks on fighters weaker then himself, lets Gohan get beaten up, beats Jimeze to within an inche of his life befor ringing him out, completly trolls his U6 counterpart and if that was not spiteful enough he's going to take out Vegeta's little fanboy likely right in the middle of some master/studant speech.

Well it will pay Vegeta back for his insults during RoF.

Also, he stole Vegeta's elimination of Murichim.

New TV special preview screencaps:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Jiren doesn't care. He just gets in whoever's face.
"Got a new form? Come see me..."

[The gr]

Wether this special is good or not,lets save our reaction for the respective episode thread like the admins told us to do,can we save our knee jerking reaction there if this bomb or our positive comment there

[ArchedThunder]

That's a long break than.

It's multiple comercial breaks throughout the hour.

[TheOne]

That's a long break than.

It's multiple comercial breaks throughout the hour.

Actually, part of me wouldn't mind getting commercials out the way and the watching the episode all the way through. But I guess it wouldn't matter if you pay for Crunchyroll.

[Totamo]

It has the original author behind it, so it's canon, especially since Toriyama himself made the form, so that's like questioning if Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan are 'canon'.

I do agree that Goku having a black haired form isn't new, we got one before Super Saiyan 4 with False Super Saiyan.

We should also remember that original doesn't mean creative.

And HeroR said that it meant creative... Where?

I'm just adding on.

[GTx10]

I am so damn excited. In anticipation of this episode I went back and watched all of Son Goku's (and Son Gohan's SS2 transformations) major transformations. From brown Great Ape all the way to Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-Ken X10. (Z era Movies, GT, Kai, BoG/RF/Super viewings included) Now that I've re-witnessed every possible way Goku has transformed I am properly prepared to witness Son's newest form.
Jesus I'm so damn excited that I am rock hard right now. Rock hard!