Unpopular DB opinions

[Soppa Saia People]

But Bluma's hair is purple in the manga

In the original manga, Bulma's hair is still usually blue. Although it occasionally switches to purple, and once red when Bulma was pissed at Yamcha.

Her hair is only blue in the first chapter IIRC, in chapter art and covers, it's almost always purple. Her hair was only red because of the limited palette.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Her hair is only blue in the first chapter IIRC, in chapter art and covers, it's almost always purple. Her hair was only red because of the limited palette.

Why are you pushing back on this? I literally have the manga about 10 feet away. I can (and just did) check to make sure that her hair was blue in most of the colored pages. Naturally. As for the tankobon covers, it's a 50/50 split, and I'm not checking the chapter pages, but I suspect it'll lean towards blue.

I really don't care about this hair color thing at all, but I don't know why you're going to sit here and lie about it. That's what annoys me.

[Gaffer Tape]

I really don't care about this hair color thing at all, but I don't know why you're going to sit here and lie about it. That's what annoys me.

But he's not lying. Blooma's hair is consistently purple in the manga except for the first chapter.

[dbgtFO]

Her hair is only blue in the first chapter IIRC, in chapter art and covers, it's almost always purple. Her hair was only red because of the limited palette.

Why are you pushing back on this? I literally have the manga about 10 feet away. I can (and just did) check to make sure that her hair was blue in most of the colored pages. Naturally. As for the tankobon covers, it's a 50/50 split, and I'm not checking the chapter pages, but I suspect it'll lean towards blue.

I really don't care about this hair color thing at all, but I don't know why you're going to sit here and lie about it. That's what annoys me.

Relax, man, he didn't come off aggressive like you are for some reason and he's right too.

[Anime Kitten]

Sarcasm?

Nope, not sarcasm. I genuinely believe Freeza is enough of a prodigy to have reached Super Saiyan Blue tier in two months, tops. I didn't mention Beerus because that's a whole other discussion.

[Soppa Saia People]

Her hair is only blue in the first chapter IIRC, in chapter art and covers, it's almost always purple. Her hair was only red because of the limited palette.

Why are you pushing back on this? I literally have the manga about 10 feet away. I can (and just did) check to make sure that her hair was blue in most of the colored pages. Naturally. As for the tankobon covers, it's a 50/50 split, and I'm not checking the chapter pages, but I suspect it'll lean towards blue.

I really don't care about this hair color thing at all, but I don't know why you're going to sit here and lie about it. That's what annoys me.

In this chapter’s full-color pages, Goku is wearing a dark blue dōgi and Bulma’s hair and eyes are depicted as teal-colored. Both these traits were picked up by the anime, with Bulma’s hair remaining this color for the entire series, and Goku’s clothes staying blue for the remainder of the first story arc. However, in the next full-color pages two weeks later in Chapter 3, Goku’s dōgi changes to a now-familiar orange, and Bulma’s hair and eyes become the purple color they will remain for the rest of the series. No in-universe explanation is given for the change, although it may be surmised that Goku changed his clothes (as anathema as that is to his character), and that it is entirely within Bulma’s abilities as a genius inventor to change her hair color at a moment’s notice (and that she was wearing blue colored contact lenses). In reality, however, Akira Toriyama has stated that he simply chooses the colors to use in his illustrations as he is drawing them, and does not normally look back at his previous work to check for continuity issues.

-Kanzenshuu's manga guide.

[Nejishiki]

But Bluma's hair is purple in the manga

In the original manga, Bulma's hair is still usually blue. Although it occasionally switches to purple, and once red when Bulma was pissed at Yamcha.

It's teal in the opening chapters, violet in all full-colored pages afterwards, and the "red" is not representative of regular color schemes given that it's a limited palette.

And just for fun, V-Jump I believe, gave her blonde hair once. Sister-matching day?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It's teal in the opening chapters, violet in all full-colored pages afterwards

Note: Full Color. We weren't talking about that release, at least not by my understanding. I'm talking Toriyama's original colored pages, in which it only switches to violet occasionally.

[Soppa Saia People]

It's teal in the opening chapters, violet in all full-colored pages afterwards

Note: Full Color. We weren't talking about that release, at least not by my understanding. I'm talking Toriyama's original colored pages, in which it only switches to violet occasionally.

It's still purple. Besides the limited palette chapters and the first chapter, her hair is always purple.

[Nejishiki]

I was referring to the original Weekly Shonen Jump publications from the beginning. It occasionally offered full-colored Toriyama chapters. The Kanzenban release is praised for republishing those chapters, if you recall.

[dbgtFO]

In the first couple of full color pages of the first chapter she has teal hair with teal eyes as well. Then it switches to the limited pallette and her hair is now grey like in your avatar Jinzoningen MULE.
For the full color pages afterwards her hair is purple. From then it switches back and forth between her purple hair in the full color pages and the grey hair in the limited color pages with the occasional outlier like blonde and ginger Bulma in the early Saiyan arc IIRC.

[Akyon]

I've seen a lot of people say they don't want Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Krillin or even Piccolo and Gohan to be involved in fights anymore here stating we only need Goku and Vegeta.

Is it unpopular to state the opposite yet?

I'd also like Chiaoutzu to do something that warrants him taking up space in the opening. Even Yamcha got an episode to himself now. Not sure if that's unpopular or not.

[Anime Kitten]

Is it unpopular to state the opposite yet?

Not in the slightest. If you don't follow the Super Official Announcement Thread, then I can see why you may ask that.

[Lord Beerus]

Gohan vs Cell is a fucking horrendous fight and one of the worst battles in all of Dragon Ball. It's barely even a "fight" to begin with.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

It's barely even a "fight" to begin with.

I think that was the point. Toriyama had spent the past half year building up Gohan, the payoff was that he so absurdly outpaced Cell, it was no contest.

[kinisking]

Gohan vs Cell is a fucking horrendous fight and one of the worst battles in all of Dragon Ball. It's barely even a "fight" to begin with.

I don't think anyone loves it for it's choreography. People love it for the narrative.

[ekrolo2]

Gohan vs Cell is a fucking horrendous fight and one of the worst battles in all of Dragon Ball. It's barely even a "fight" to begin with.

I don't think anyone loves it for it's choreography. People love it for the narrative.

Most definitely. I mean, I don't like it much at all but choreography isn't really the point of it, its seeing Cell get brought down at last.

[Soppa Saia People]

Gohan vs Cell is a fucking horrendous fight and one of the worst battles in all of Dragon Ball. It's barely even a "fight" to begin with.

Agreed. That fight, like the Cell arc, is garbage.

[Lord Beerus]

Gohan vs Cell is a fucking horrendous fight and one of the worst battles in all of Dragon Ball. It's barely even a "fight" to begin with.

I don't think anyone loves it for it's choreography. People love it for the narrative.

Most definitely. I mean, I don't like it much at all but choreography isn't really the point of it, its seeing Cell get brought down at last.

But here's the thing... the narrative is hot garbage. Gohan sits out 95% percent of the Android/Cell arc, and when he does take an active role in it, he suddenly develops this pacifist nature to add more "drama" to the battle and lead a contrived moment. And may I remind you, this pacifist characteristic is never brought again after this arc. So Gohan just suddenly had a change of conviction with barely any build-up to it, that lead to a moment that had even less build up to it, for a payoff of a trait that was throw in a once or twice in every arc prior to Gohan's battle against Cell. I mean, what relationship does Gohan have with Cell that supposed to make the feeling of Cell being brought down a peg by him feel so cathartic or satisfying? That fact that Cell crushed 16 head? That moment means nothing because Gohan barely know who the fuck Android 16 was beyond the fact he was built to kill Goku. He of all people shouldn't be the trigger for Gohan's SSJ2 moment because there is no emotional connection between the two of them. Fuck that fight.

[kinisking]

I don't think anyone loves it for it's choreography. People love it for the narrative.

Most definitely. I mean, I don't like it much at all but choreography isn't really the point of it, its seeing Cell get brought down at last.

But here's the thing... the narrative is hot garbage. Gohan sits out 95% percent of the Android/Cell arc, and when he does take an active role in it, he suddenly develops this pacifist nature to add more "drama" to the battle and lead a contrived moment. And may I remind you, this pacifist characteristic is never brought again after this arc. So Gohan just suddenly had a change of conviction with barely any build-up to it, that lead to a moment that had even less build up to it, for a payoff of a trait that was throw in a once or twice in every arc prior to Gohan's battle against Cell. I mean, what relationship does Gohan have with Cell that supposed to make the feeling of Cell being brought down a peg by him feel so cathartic or satisfying? That fact that Cell crushed 16 head? That moment means nothing because Gohan barely know who the fuck Android 16 was beyond the fact he was built to kill Goku. He of all people shouldn't be the trigger for Gohan's SSJ2 moment because there is no emotional connection between the two of them. Fuck that fight.

I agree for the most part. The whole fight is really contrived. Gohan's personality is completely different and the build up could have been better. It was also really weird for Gohan to be sitting out the arc in the first place and then it got weirder when he was suddenly shoved in.

I disagree on some parts though. The trait wasn't just shown once or two times in an arc. The trait it was referencing was his potential to be the strongest. It was introduced at the same time as him and was referenced persistently within the story. It wasn't something that came out of nowhere. Also, I think Android 16's usage wasn't that bad. It's not like Gohan only got angry at android 16. He was already on the verge of going apeshit. Android 16 was just the needle on the haystack and it makes sense considering how relatable he was to Gohan's character.