Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Ki Breaker » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:21 pm

sintzu wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:So who's gonna win? Not Vegeta coz he's Vegeta...
Tell that to Toppo.
I would.. if he wasn't a second fiddle :P

But you know what I am talking about, Vegeta usually dosen't stand alone against the main antagonist in the end and win, and Broly being the only antagonist doesn't make his chances any greater either..
He could but history says he won't.. at least not alone..
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Post by AnimeNation101 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:22 pm

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AnimeNation101 wrote:You can have Gogeta have a time limit for and 1 minute but have him stay on screen for 10. Just say he’s moving at really fast speeds. Like what the whole T.o.P was
I don't care how they do it, I just don't want Gogeta to show up and finish things with one attack. I'm not expecting a long fight but I want to to be a fight at least.
I agree. I don’t want a Fusion Reborn repeat. I want a fight of at least 5 minutes. And an even fight at that
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by BlueBasilisk » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:24 pm

Ki Breaker wrote:
sintzu wrote:
Ki Breaker wrote:So who's gonna win? Not Vegeta coz he's Vegeta...
Tell that to Toppo.
I would.. if he wasn't a second fiddle :P

But you know what I am talking about, Vegeta usually dosen't stand alone against the main antagonist in the end and win, and Broly being the only antagonist doesn't make his chances any greater either..
He could but history says he won't.. at least not alone..
Paragus better watch out then. :P

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by WittyUsername » Fri Aug 03, 2018 2:46 pm

I remember saying this before RF was released, but I don’t like the idea of Vegeta being the one who gets the win, at least not on his own. It’s not that I dislike Vegeta, but he’s not really the kind of character who I would associate with saving the day. That’s why for as much as I dislike RF, I was never upset about Goku “stealing” Vegeta’s win.

With that being said, if Gogeta does appear in this movie, I don’t know what to think of it. Sure, Gogeta is cool and all, but the idea of a glorified gimmick like fusion winning the day isn’t exactly a Toriyama concept. Hell, even Toei didn’t do that with GT.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by kudo6000 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:03 pm

Just think, even after all he's been through and faced, Goku is still waiting to challenge someone like Oob.

Which is even more hilarious considering how in Toyotarou's manga, Goku had to actually be reminded of Oob's existence by Dende.

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Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:12 pm

Is the shadow figure UI Goku ?

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Post by kudo6000 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:13 pm

sintzu wrote:Is the shadow figure UI Goku ?

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It's Broly in his base form from the film poster.

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Post by WittyUsername » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:14 pm

kudo6000 wrote:Just think, even after all he's been through and faced, Goku is still waiting to challenge someone like Oob.

Which is even more hilarious considering how in Toyotarou's manga, Goku had to actually be reminded of Oob's existence by Dende.
I just want to know why Beerus and Whis weren’t invited, considering how they seem to more or less be part of Goku’s inner circle at this point.

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Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:15 pm

kudo6000 wrote:
sintzu wrote:Is the shadow figure UI Goku ?

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
It's Broly in his base form from the film poster.
Yeah, you're right. :cry:
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Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:17 pm

Ki Breaker wrote: Vegeta usually dosen't stand alone against the main antagonist in the end and win, and Broly being the only antagonist doesn't make his chances any greater either.
Hopefully that changes once they decide to give him UI.
BlueBasilisk wrote:Paragus better watch out then. :P
I really hope they don't waste him like the original movie did.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Shaddy » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:18 pm

WittyUsername wrote:I remember saying this before RF was released, but I don’t like the idea of Vegeta being the one who gets the win, at least not on his own. It’s not that I dislike Vegeta, but he’s not really the kind of character who I would associate with saving the day. That’s why for as much as I dislike RF, I was never upset about Goku “stealing” Vegeta’s win.
I've long both loved and hated myself for sticking with it, but deep-down I still kind of really wish Krillin had gotten the kill. Ideally he'd Kienzan Frieza's hands off and be like "that one's for me bitch" and then Vegeta would turn and be like "what the fuck are you doing" and then accidentally release his big bang because he was distracted, killing Frieza in the process.

It's one of the stupidest ideas I'd ever had and I love it more every time I think about it happening

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Post by WittyUsername » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:23 pm

sintzu wrote:Hopefully that changes once they decide to give him UI.


I don’t know if it’s unlikely or not, but I’d prefer that they keep UI exclusive to Goku. They already cheapened the Super Saiyan transformation by giving it to everyone, so they should at least keep UI as a special thing that even Goku can’t fully use yet.
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Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:33 pm

WittyUsername wrote:I’d prefer that they keep UI exclusive to Goku.
I think if that was the plan we wouldn't have seen Whis talk about him trying to get it or Vegeta himself try a few times during the TOP. The only way I'd see hin not getting it is if modern DB was nearing its end which it isn't so if they're going to keep Vegeta around as the 2nd main character and Goku's "equal" then he'll need UI to keep up with him and future villains.
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Post by WittyUsername » Fri Aug 03, 2018 3:38 pm

sintzu wrote:
WittyUsername wrote:I’d prefer that they keep UI exclusive to Goku.
I think if that was the plan we wouldn't have seen Whis talk about him trying to get it or Vegeta himself try a few times during the TOP. The only way I'd see hin not getting it is if modern DB was nearing its end which it isn't so if they're going to keep Vegeta around as the 2nd main character and Goku's "equal" then he'll need UI to keep up with him and future villains.
Well, assuming UI doesn’t show up in this movie, that would at the very least suggest that they want to keep it as something special for as long as they can.

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Post by TheOne » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:10 pm

Calling it now UI Vegeta and Goku. Much better option than Gogeta.
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Post by ZeroNeonix » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:40 pm

sintzu wrote:
WittyUsername wrote:I’d prefer that they keep UI exclusive to Goku.
I think if that was the plan we wouldn't have seen Whis talk about him trying to get it or Vegeta himself try a few times during the TOP. The only way I'd see hin not getting it is if modern DB was nearing its end which it isn't so if they're going to keep Vegeta around as the 2nd main character and Goku's "equal" then he'll need UI to keep up with him and future villains.
I don't know. I had predicted before that Goku would combine Ultra Instinct with his God powers to ascend even further, but Ultra Instinct is unique as far as transformations go. When Goku uses Ultra Instinct, he stops being himself. He loses his personality and becomes a mindless fighting machine. I don't know if either Toriyama or Toei would want Goku doing that on a constant basis. So maybe Ultra Instinct will remain a last resort used on rare occasions.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:47 pm

ZeroNeonix wrote:When Goku uses Ultra Instinct, he stops being himself. He loses his personality and becomes a mindless fighting machine. I don't know if either Toriyama or Toei would want Goku doing that on a constant basis. So maybe Ultra Instinct will remain a last resort used on rare occasions.
I also think it'll remain rare as that'll keep things interesting and unpredictable. What I'm most looking forward to is how Vegeta will get it and use it.
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Post by Mister_Popo » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:06 pm

sintzu wrote:
ZeroNeonix wrote:When Goku uses Ultra Instinct, he stops being himself. He loses his personality and becomes a mindless fighting machine. I don't know if either Toriyama or Toei would want Goku doing that on a constant basis. So maybe Ultra Instinct will remain a last resort used on rare occasions.
I also think it'll remain rare as that'll keep things interesting and unpredictable. What I'm most looking forward to is how Vegeta will get it and use it.

What the trailer did show, i think, is Blue alone isn't enough against Broly, something far stronger will be needed.
Vegeta could still be hanging on somewhere, by the looks of the trailer he wasn't somewhere near.

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Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:13 pm

Mister_Popo wrote:What the trailer did show, i think, is Blue alone isn't enough against Broly, something far stronger will be needed. Vegeta could still be hanging on somewhere, by the looks of the trailer he wasn't somewhere near.
If Goku isn't going to use UI (very likely as the new scan hints at him losing) then the only outcome I can see other than Broly self destructing is him and Vegeta fusing into Gogeta.
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Post by kudo6000 » Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:15 pm

Mister_Popo wrote:What the trailer did show, i think, is Blue alone isn't enough against Broly
What makes you say that? The fact that we clearly see Broly in his black-haired, golden eye form (which, judging by the showcasing from SDCC, is two forms before his final one) clashing with an already battle damaged SSB Goku, or Goku in his Blue form trembling from the seemingly never ending power increase from an emerging LSS Broly?

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