"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Noah]

See Roshi performing better than Gotenks, Tien and Krillin. And also there are still some fans that wanted Yamcha and Buu fight in the ToP.

Tien fans were the most disappointed because he got the worst recruitment episode and worst ToP episode.

Gotenks is not in the tournament and I don't think Tenshinhan elimination was the worst episode in ToP, the first ones were worse.

[darzap]

It seems a bit odd to have Hit eliminated and then a couple of episodes that don't mention Jiren at all. Who will keep Jiren busy? Maybe Hit does kill, incapacitate or eliminate Jiren while going out because Jiren starting to get into action than retiring from it for a couple more episodes until the tournament gets even closer to the end just so that Goku has time to recover seems highly questionable as a strategical choice. Jiren going out would be a twist but he isn't strictly required depending on what they do with the "explosive birth" and whether or not that will be another potential end boss.

I hope they don't just put Jiren on Ribrianne duty because that seems to be their goto-solution to explain characters doing nothing else. One solution that comes to mind is introducing a Hit time manipulation ability that puts Jiren in a parallel dimension for 10-15 minutes. Even though that would be a little bit lazy, it would create an interesting tactical situation with everybody using the remaining episodes until the final battle trying to get in a good position for his return (like having many fighters on the battlefield, developing some kind of stalling tactic to have Jirens universe outnumbered by the end, because they can't simply beat Jiren, or sth. like that.

[Zamasu55]

So for you guys it's perfectly normal if U6's strongest fighter has less rings outs than Master Roshi.

I'm sorry, but I disagree.

Jiren who is stronger than Hit has even less eliminations than him and Roshi (only one).

We already know he's going to eliminate some important fighters. Hit's the first.

[Zamasu55]

So we're not gonna get the Hit vs Vegeta rematch that almost everyone wanted. Plus, we didn't get to see a Piccolo revenge on Frost...
But on the other hand, Magetta vs Vegeta happened TWICE.

[GodKaio-Ken]

Power Levels as in numbers dont matter.

That doesnt mean everyone can fight everyone. It means a specific number being applied no longer matters.

[Jigurashi]

So we're not gonna get the Hit vs Vegeta rematch that almost everyone wanted. Plus, we didn't get to see a Piccolo revenge on Frost...
But on the other hand, Magetta vs Vegeta happened TWICE.

Vegeta has fought Magetta like 4 times in total in Super.

I don't know why Jiren just can't go back to statue mode. Outside of being told to fight Goku, he never attacked anyone unless they either approached him or were causing destruction to the entire arena.

[TheDipDap1234]

Little sad Hit will get out, but I kinda expected it once we found out the episode was called "Hit vs Jiren".

I predict Cabba will get eliminated in episode 112, Caulifla and Kale in episode 114, and the 2 namekians in 115. If universe 6 will get erased next, I will mostly want to see Beerus' and Vados' reactions to Champa getting erased.

[Noah]

I don't know why Jiren just can't go back to statue mode. Outside of being told to fight Goku, he never attacked anyone unless they either approached him or were causing destruction to the entire arena.

Well, didn't Toppo said something like: "Screw the justice, we're gonna fight for survival now"? That could explain Jiren now willing to eliminate his opponents.

[Kanassa]

Episode 107 was written by Toshio, someone that actually cares for the series in all aspects

Can we stop attributing whether a writer cares or not to simply 'I liked/disliked what he did'?

[HeroR]

So we're not gonna get the Hit vs Vegeta rematch that almost everyone wanted. Plus, we didn't get to see a Piccolo revenge on Frost...
But on the other hand, Magetta vs Vegeta happened TWICE.

Piccolo would have gotten his ass kicked and I prefer Frost being taken out by Freeza.

As for Hit, I prefer him fighting Jiren and possibly damaging him before going down over rehashing the Champa Saga so Vegeta fans can get a W on a strong person.

Episode 107 was written by Toshio, someone that actually cares for the series in all aspects

Can we stop attributing whether a writer cares or not to simply 'I liked/disliked what he did'?

Especially since all the writers wrote at least one beloved or well-like episode like King Ryu with 43 and 105, and Tomioka with 75, 76, 77, and 110 to name a few.

[perucho1990]

Can we stop attributing whether a writer cares or not to simply 'I liked/disliked what he did'?

Isnt that kinda the same thing?

Toshio episodes have the best episode of the ToP. One reason I'm interested in episode 112 and how he will handle Cabbas development.

[Kanassa]

Can we stop attributing whether a writer cares or not to simply 'I liked/disliked what he did'?

Isnt that kinda the same thing?

No it isn't, not at all. Unless you think any sort of content creator is infallible.

[Jigurashi]

I don't know why Jiren just can't go back to statue mode. Outside of being told to fight Goku, he never attacked anyone unless they either approached him or were causing destruction to the entire arena.

Well, didn't Toppo said something like: "Screw the justice, we're gonna fight for survival now"? That could explain Jiren now willing to eliminate his opponents.

He did say that but even after he said that: Jiren fought Maji because Maji attacked him, and then didn't do anything else until Vermouth told him to fight Goku. Just seems like a fair possibility he just goes back to waiting for someone else to confront him.

[HeroR]

Can we stop attributing whether a writer cares or not to simply 'I liked/disliked what he did'?

Isnt that kinda the same thing?

Toshio episodes have the best episode of the ToP. One reason I'm interested in episode 112 and how he will handle Cabbas development.

That an opinion since I easily put 105, 109, and 110 ahead of 107. Only 104 edge 105 IMO.

[perucho1990]

That an opinion since I easily put 105, 109, and 110 ahead of 107. Only 104 edge 105 IMO.

I wasnt including the TV Special.

Animation was kinda lazy in episode 105 imo.

[HeroR]

That an opinion since I easily put 105, 109, and 110 ahead of 107. Only 104 edge 105 IMO.

I wasnt including the TV Special.

Animation was kinda lazy in episode 105 imo.

The TV special is just two epsoides smash together and not something like History of Trunks. And the writers has nothing to do with the animation. So Toshio could write a great episode with shitty animation. They have no control of that.

[omaro34]

Where's Shinda Forever?

[The gr]

Where's Shinda Forever?

Banned,the real question where was Julianstyle when tien got eleminated

We dont know he chose the order do we? I think its more likely he told them who the last competitors would be, any important specific eliminations probably including Hit, but I doubt he wrote most of the fodder out.

Could be wrong, just my own speculation as of now.

Why would Toriyama leave the elimination order to Toei and Toyo? He can just make a list on who goes first to last.

So Hit leaves the stage after having eliminated less people than Master Roshi and Krillin. Nice one.

I knew he was gonna job to Jiren, but I didn't think he'd go this soon.

Toyotaro will have to fix this one too. And I think Hit will be stronger than before.

PS: Oh, Freeza's next on Jiren's list. Brace yourselves.

That isn't what job means and Hit in the manga was weaker than anime Hit. And I loved the "Toyotaro will have to fix this one" before you even watch the episode.

Plus what make people think toyotaro is gonna do better in terms of handling the characters
Piccolo barely even had a fight with frost in the manga while the anime gave him more of a shot

Why do people always forget that super is decided on paper and not on the staff and toyo,if roshi got 5 elemination if thats was a AT idea then it will happen in the manga is all on the outline,you guys barely pay attention on the manga if you don't know how it works,at least HeroR know how it works, do you guys think toriyama brougth these character to have them lose quickly

[GodKaio-Ken]

That an opinion since I easily put 105, 109, and 110 ahead of 107. Only 104 edge 105 IMO.

I wasnt including the TV Special.

Animation was kinda lazy in episode 105 imo.

The TV special is just two epsoides smash together and not something like History of Trunks. And the writers has nothing to do with the animation. So Toshio could write a great episode with shitty animation. They have no control of that.

While this is true it's pretty obvious they put a lot more resources into 109 and 110 than a regular episode or two.

BTW Not saying they shouldnt count. I actually agree they should. Just saying I can see why someone wouldnt.

[HeroR]

I wasnt including the TV Special.

Animation was kinda lazy in episode 105 imo.

The TV special is just two epsoides smash together and not something like History of Trunks. And the writers has nothing to do with the animation. So Toshio could write a great episode with shitty animation. They have no control of that.

While this is true it's pretty obvious they put a lot more resources into 109 and 110 than a regular episode or two.

BTW Not saying they shouldnt count. I actually agree they should. Just saying I can see why someone wouldnt.

True, but they usually put their best for important episodes like 57 and 66.