Freeza is only as strong as SSB Goku. Toppo can handle that. Vegeta is debatable.JulieYBM wrote:More like neither Freeza nor Vegeta have shown their true colors yet.Zamasu55 wrote:"With Hit out and Goku exhausted, Jiren's certain that there's nobody left to rival him. With nobody worth fighting, he starts meditating."
So, the likes of Freeza and Vegeta aren't even worth fighting for Jiren. This means they're even weaker than Goku and Hit. Yes, we knew that, but it's good to have confirmation for once.
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Eh. I still feel like Vegeta and Frieza can take out Dyspo and Toppokinisking wrote:Freeza is only as strong as SSB Goku. Toppo can handle that. Vegeta is debatable.JulieYBM wrote:More like neither Freeza nor Vegeta have shown their true colors yet.Zamasu55 wrote:"With Hit out and Goku exhausted, Jiren's certain that there's nobody left to rival him. With nobody worth fighting, he starts meditating."
So, the likes of Freeza and Vegeta aren't even worth fighting for Jiren. This means they're even weaker than Goku and Hit. Yes, we knew that, but it's good to have confirmation for once.
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Idk but I have the feeling she might be the one episode 114 was talking about, the so called "unknown warrior", probably she has another transformation after idk...Rosie gets eliminated?Kinokima wrote:I can't see Ribrianne or Rozie taking anyone that is left in U7 personally. And if it's the fan favorite who keeps being matched against her than definitely not.Xeogran wrote:There's one thing I have to warn you guys of:
Ribrianne's jobbing days are over. After getting motivation from Rozie, she's certainly going to eliminate someone. And I have my suspicions it will be someone from U7... Perhaps a certain... fan favorite.
Motivation can only go so far. They just aren't strong enough. I do think Rozie will go before Ribrianne though so she probably has plot armor until then.
And I also simply think Ribrianne has lasted this long because someone in charge seems to like her. She's a fun character and I think she will last for awhile but I don't think they have a grand scheme for her.
I could see Brianne transforming again which should put her in the Blue tier range. Magical Girls are known for bs powerups.
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I really really REALLY hope that's not the case.perucho1990 wrote:Idk but I have the feeling she might be the one episode 114 was talking about, the so called "unknown warrior", probably she has another transformation after idk...Rosie gets eliminated?Kinokima wrote:I can't see Ribrianne or Rozie taking anyone that is left in U7 personally. And if it's the fan favorite who keeps being matched against her than definitely not.Xeogran wrote:There's one thing I have to warn you guys of:
Ribrianne's jobbing days are over. After getting motivation from Rozie, she's certainly going to eliminate someone. And I have my suspicions it will be someone from U7... Perhaps a certain... fan favorite.
Motivation can only go so far. They just aren't strong enough. I do think Rozie will go before Ribrianne though so she probably has plot armor until then.
And I also simply think Ribrianne has lasted this long because someone in charge seems to like her. She's a fun character and I think she will last for awhile but I don't think they have a grand scheme for her.
I could see Brianne transforming again which should put her in the Blue tier range. Magical Girls are known for bs powerups.
This series does not need Kale or Caulifla to be be sticking out like this. I'd rather see this be Briannes new transformation.
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You are going to get something even better, a brand new Namekian form.
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I think Frieza is going to make the grave mistake of gloating about how he killed the Universe 7 Saiyans and get himself into some real shit. Vegeta didn't care much for the Saiyans but he likes Frieza even less.Kinokima wrote: I don't know an episode about Vegeta saving Cabba just to have Cabba knocked out by Freeza also seems a bit strange but I have no idea what is actually going to happen. The episode is also called Vegeta's Resolve so the title makes me think it's ultimately more about Vegeta than Cabba. Vegeta deciding if he will help Cabba against his own team or not. I don't know!
I do agree that Monna is probably a goner though!
Vegeta goes Blue for some reason but I'm not sure that'd be for Monna if he expects Cabba to handle her.
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Well Gohan and Piccolo will certainly be busy. :pnamekiansaiyan wrote:You are going to get something even better, a brand new Namekian form.
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Gohan and Piccolo start winning and then the Namekians transform in episode 114, simple as that.Big Black Saiyan wrote:Well Gohan and Piccolo will certainly be busy. :pnamekiansaiyan wrote:You are going to get something even better, a brand new Namekian form.
The possibilties for the warrior are probably:
1. New Namekian form
2. Ribrianne new form
3. Kale new form
4. Namekian fusion
5. Kale and Caulifla fusion
6. Bugs
7. Three universe 3 fighters fuse together
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New Namekian form or fusion and the bugs are the only ones that interests me in the list.namekiansaiyan wrote:Gohan and Piccolo start winning and then the Namekians transform in episode 114, simple as that.Big Black Saiyan wrote:Well Gohan and Piccolo will certainly be busy. :pnamekiansaiyan wrote:You are going to get something even better, a brand new Namekian form.
The possibilties for the warrior are probably:
1. New Namekian form
2. Ribrianne new form
3. Kale new form
4. Namekian fusion
5. Kale and Caulifla fusion
6. Bugs
7. Three universe 3 fighters fuse together
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Talking about fusion, we can still say Vegetto Blue could handle Jiren, right?
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I hope for both as we need something to shake things up while Jiren is just meditating and maybe they can make him get up.SansrivaaL wrote:New Namekian form or fusion and the bugs are the only ones that interests me in the list.namekiansaiyan wrote:Gohan and Piccolo start winning and then the Namekians transform in episode 114, simple as that.Big Black Saiyan wrote: Well Gohan and Piccolo will certainly be busy. :p
The possibilties for the warrior are probably:
1. New Namekian form
2. Ribrianne new form
3. Kale new form
4. Namekian fusion
5. Kale and Caulifla fusion
6. Bugs
7. Three universe 3 fighters fuse together
I would say no and we have not even seen Jiren at his full power yet.Noah wrote:Talking about fusion, we can still say Vegetto Blue could handle Jiren, right?
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I think our crystal ball would need a firmware upgrade for that. Although I'm quite confident that Vegetto Blue or a hypothetical Gogeta Blue would totally show that they have the strength to handle Jiren and then proceed to not win the fight and defuse due to some newly introduced circumstance that effects the fusion (how about "bad vibrations in the world of void") that is explained by some sideline character after the fact.Noah wrote:Talking about fusion, we can still say Vegetto Blue could handle Jiren, right?
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I'm kinda thinking he went blue for Frieza. He already let the Saiyan race in his universe get extinguished by him. I doubt that he will let Frieza mess with another race of Saiyans. Goku gave Vegeta an interesting look in the preview, so I wonder if it has something to do with why he would go against Frieza.BlueBasilisk wrote:I think Frieza is going to make the grave mistake of gloating about how he killed the Universe 7 Saiyans and get himself into some real shit. Vegeta didn't care much for the Saiyans but he likes Frieza even less.Kinokima wrote: I don't know an episode about Vegeta saving Cabba just to have Cabba knocked out by Freeza also seems a bit strange but I have no idea what is actually going to happen. The episode is also called Vegeta's Resolve so the title makes me think it's ultimately more about Vegeta than Cabba. Vegeta deciding if he will help Cabba against his own team or not. I don't know!
I do agree that Monna is probably a goner though!
Vegeta goes Blue for some reason but I'm not sure that'd be for Monna if he expects Cabba to handle her.
Besides, in the Frieza arc we never got to hear Vegeta monologue about the Saiyan race and Frieza. Maybe this will give him the platform to say something.
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I wouldn't rule it out. Especially if Vegetto/Gogeta figured out how to tap into Ultra Instinct.namekiansaiyan wrote:I hope for both as we need something to shake things up while Jiren is just meditating and maybe they can make him get up.SansrivaaL wrote:New Namekian form or fusion and the bugs are the only ones that interests me in the list.namekiansaiyan wrote:
Gohan and Piccolo start winning and then the Namekians transform in episode 114, simple as that.
The possibilties for the warrior are probably:
1. New Namekian form
2. Ribrianne new form
3. Kale new form
4. Namekian fusion
5. Kale and Caulifla fusion
6. Bugs
7. Three universe 3 fighters fuse together
I would say no and we have not even seen Jiren at his full power yet.Noah wrote:Talking about fusion, we can still say Vegetto Blue could handle Jiren, right?
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Gogeta Blue would be much, much weaker than Vegetto Blue.darzap wrote:I think our crystal ball would need a firmware upgrade for that. Although I'm quite confident that Vegetto Blue or a hypothetical Gogeta Blue would totally show that they have the strength to handle Jiren and then proceed to not win the fight and defuse due to some newly introduced circumstance that effects the fusion (how about "bad vibrations in the world of void") that is explained by some sideline character after the fact.Noah wrote:Talking about fusion, we can still say Vegetto Blue could handle Jiren, right?
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The more episodes pass the more I lean towards ribrianne new form being the new character.But,I don’t mind a namekian transformation(would be a cherry on top if it has some form of special ability I could live with less power)namekiansaiyan wrote:Gohan and Piccolo start winning and then the Namekians transform in episode 114, simple as that.Big Black Saiyan wrote:Well Gohan and Piccolo will certainly be busy. :pnamekiansaiyan wrote:You are going to get something even better, a brand new Namekian form.
The possibilties for the warrior are probably:
1. New Namekian form
2. Ribrianne new form
3. Kale new form
4. Namekian fusion
5. Kale and Caulifla fusion
6. Bugs
7. Three universe 3 fighters fuse together
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The rage would be at maximum if it was Ribrianne.Hawk9211 wrote:The more episodes pass the more I lean towards ribrianne new form being the new character.But,I don’t mind a namekian transformation(would be a cherry on top if it has some form of special ability I could live with less power)namekiansaiyan wrote:Gohan and Piccolo start winning and then the Namekians transform in episode 114, simple as that.Big Black Saiyan wrote: Well Gohan and Piccolo will certainly be busy. :p
The possibilties for the warrior are probably:
1. New Namekian form
2. Ribrianne new form
3. Kale new form
4. Namekian fusion
5. Kale and Caulifla fusion
6. Bugs
7. Three universe 3 fighters fuse together
I would take any Namekian transformation that makes them improve. I am juat constantly hoping it happens.
If I was to place a bet it would be on the Namekian fusion out of the 7 listed as we know 100% they can do it and becuase the word birth is in the episode title.
The question was only about Vegito Blue but if Ultra Instinct was Involved I would probably say yes.TheOne wrote:
I wouldn't rule it out. Especially if Vegetto/Gogeta figured out how to tap into Ultra Instinct.
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Damn, you're right, that totally changes my ill-informed response to that clearly answerable question. I just did the math again and Vegetto Blue is ~14.239, just barely above Jiren with ~14.109, while Gogeta Blue is surely below that with his ~13.584. How silly of me.HeroR wrote:Gogeta Blue would be much, much weaker than Vegetto Blue.
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I have the developers preview and my Crystal ball says his time limit of some minutes doesn't let that thought become a reality..darzap wrote:I think our crystal ball would need a firmware upgrade for that. Although I'm quite confident that Vegetto Blue or a hypothetical Gogeta Blue would totally show that they have the strength to handle Jiren and then proceed to not win the fight and defuse due to some newly introduced circumstance that effects the fusion (how about "bad vibrations in the world of void") that is explained by some sideline character after the fact.Noah wrote:Talking about fusion, we can still say Vegetto Blue could handle Jiren, right?
Vegetto blue ain't happening but a hypothetical Vegetto can and should beat Jiren with ease if his time limit isn't a concern..
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