DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

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Re: DBZ portion of Manga to be in full color?!

Post by theoriginalbilis » Sun Jul 07, 2013 8:03 pm

Hoo boy, I'm glad I waited and never picked up the VizBigs or 3-in-1s... this "premium" styled color release is right up my alley, and I do really hope Viz will finally just give us an uncensored presentation (though removal of Popo's lips I can tolerate), and finally fix Vegerot, H-ercule, etc.

I hope they clarify whether or not they'll be releasing the original "DB" portion as well as "Z".
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Post by Mewzard » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:24 am

You know, when I first made this topic months before it was confirmed to be coming, I was just a hopeful speculator...but now, I feel good.

American Graphic Novel-sized volumes in full color for only $20? That's great news for me.

I just have to ask one thing: How much content will these volumes be covering? One tankobon's worth? One Kanzenban? What the full color volumes have been? I doubt it would be Vizbig sized, but I would love that.
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Post by Kendamu » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:25 am

theoriginalbilis wrote:Hoo boy, I'm glad I waited and never picked up the VizBigs or 3-in-1s... this "premium" styled color release is right up my alley, and I do really hope Viz will finally just give us an uncensored presentation (though removal of Popo's lips I can tolerate), and finally fix Vegerot, H-ercule, etc.

I hope they clarify whether or not they'll be releasing the original "DB" portion as well as "Z".
I don't know if they'll fix Vegerot as they did keep Cultivar. However, it's visually uncensored thus far.

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Post by Cold Skin » Mon Jul 08, 2013 7:53 am

Nice for you guys, it seems that finally you will have something ahead of us French people, and likely as a better product as well (you can bet that just like all the time, the French color version - undoubtedly coming in a few years once the Kanzenban collection is done - will be almost exact replicas of the Japanese release, including the too-small-for-such-a-great-release Japanese size).

Ultimately, after all those years, you will get an ultimate manga release way before we do.

The only thing is that it'll be censored, but possibly only for Popo's lips (the full color manga will surely be exactly what you see in the US Jump release, translation-wise, font-wise and image-wise. You should not expect anything more than what you've seen in US Jump, which is already more than you would have dared to imagine a few years ago). :wink:

All in all, I think it will be your final and definitive version of the manga, having its own amazing advantages compared to all other releases in the world! 8)
I'm definately going to be jealous of that size, I would like the color edition to be at least the size of the Kanzenban, cause once you've tasted the intensity of the Kanzenban size - which makes a lot of difference in the way you "feel" the panels -, going back to a Tankobon size feels underwhelming and don't feel like it's enough to emphasize the beautiful coloring of this edition!

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Post by Mewzard » Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:27 pm

I just grabbed one of my Shonen Jump issues and put it up to my Comic trades...and all of them were bigger than it. It was slightly bigger than my Akira volumes, but slightly smaller than either my paperback Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles trades for Mirage, Archie, and IDW, and my hardcover Jack Kirby Omnibi from DC...and way smaller than my TMNT: Ultimate Collection Hardcovers and that Deluxe Edition of volume 1 of IDW's TMNT series.

So, if what Viz said at the con was true, we'll be getting volumes around the size of the original print run in WSJ, which is amazing. I'd kill for a retranslation...but if they keep it visually uncut, it's already a win (and if this is starting from FC Dragon Ball before going into Z, I will be the happiest man alive).

I just hope it ends up being at least the size of the Full Color volumes in Japan or bigger, due to the $20 price tag. At that size, it should at least be over 200 pages (weren't the FC Comics like 250 pages or so? That'd be wonderful).
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Post by rereboy » Mon Jul 08, 2013 5:00 pm

Too bad its only in 2014 :(

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Post by NessMudkip » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:54 pm

Hey guys, I've found out from Viz through Twitter that the full colour release will be starting from Z, not the start. It's a shame, but maybe we'll get Full Colour comics for the rest of the series in the future, who knows.

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Post by theoriginalbilis » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:08 pm

Not a bad place to start. Looks like we're just getting what Japan has been getting roughly a year or so after them. So when the inevitable Cell-Buu arcs get colored releases, we'll most likely get those in English too (unless they just sell piss-poor here in the States.)
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:14 pm

I have a question. Is Super Saiyan Goku's Kamehameha colored white or yellow?
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Post by Kendamu » Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:18 pm

NessMudkip wrote:Hey guys, I've found out from Viz through Twitter that the full colour release will be starting from Z, not the start. It's a shame, but maybe we'll get Full Colour comics for the rest of the series in the future, who knows.

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I figured as much. Full-color DB would be nice, but I read Z more, anyway.

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Post by Makaioshin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:37 pm

NessMudkip wrote:Hey guys, I've found out from Viz through Twitter that the full colour release will be starting from Z, not the start. It's a shame, but maybe we'll get Full Colour comics for the rest of the series in the future, who knows.
Eh, it was to be expected. A physical release of the rest of the series probably depends on how well these sell.
I hope we get more details about this release in the near future. Or I just hope that there are more details.

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Post by bkev » Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:24 pm

Kendamu wrote:
theoriginalbilis wrote:Hoo boy, I'm glad I waited and never picked up the VizBigs or 3-in-1s... this "premium" styled color release is right up my alley, and I do really hope Viz will finally just give us an uncensored presentation (though removal of Popo's lips I can tolerate), and finally fix Vegerot, H-ercule, etc.

I hope they clarify whether or not they'll be releasing the original "DB" portion as well as "Z".
I don't know if they'll fix Vegerot as they did keep Cultivar. However, it's visually uncensored thus far.
They haven't even gotten to anything objectionable yet. I'd hold my breath until we see some guns/middle fingers. I'm pretty sure the name changes won't go, but visual edits aside from Popo may be a thing of the past. Dragonball is definitely, despite Kai's success, officially a niche product and this is likely aimed at collectors.
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Post by Fizzer » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:07 pm

Why do people always think it's okay to start the freaking story half way through? It's exactly the same as saying "Yeah, we're starting this new release of Lord of the Rings with The Two Towers", except this is ALMOST ALWAYS what happens to Dragon Ball. Why couldn't Toei have just adapted the ONE manga into ONE anime?

Edit: Oh, wait, I've got it. No release is ever allowed to be definitive, or the fans will be all "okay, we own Dragon Ball now, let's go home guys" and there will be no more mass-quadruple-dipping.

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Post by chaosyoshimage » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:29 pm

Fizzer wrote:Why do people always think it's okay to start the freaking story half way through? It's exactly the same as saying "Yeah, we're starting this new release of Lord of the Rings with The Two Towers", except this is ALMOST ALWAYS what happens to Dragon Ball. Why couldn't Toei have just adapted the ONE manga into ONE anime?

Edit: Oh, wait, I've got it. No release is ever allowed to be definitive, or the fans will be all "okay, we own Dragon Ball now, let's go home guys" and there will be no more mass-quadruple-dipping.
One could argue that it's not much different than making films based on The Lord of the Rings before making a film based on The Hobbit.

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Post by Fizzer » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:40 pm

chaosyoshimage wrote:
Fizzer wrote:Why do people always think it's okay to start the freaking story half way through? It's exactly the same as saying "Yeah, we're starting this new release of Lord of the Rings with The Two Towers", except this is ALMOST ALWAYS what happens to Dragon Ball. Why couldn't Toei have just adapted the ONE manga into ONE anime?

Edit: Oh, wait, I've got it. No release is ever allowed to be definitive, or the fans will be all "okay, we own Dragon Ball now, let's go home guys" and there will be no more mass-quadruple-dipping.
One could argue that it's not much different than making films based on The Lord of the Rings before making a film based on The Hobbit.
You're quite right, but I think since those two have different main characters and are both fairly complete stories set more than a generation apart, it's more like if Toriyama had made a manga about Goku Jr and someone released that before/instead of Dragon Ball. I think the original author treating them as different works (The Hobbit not being the first book of LotR) changes things slightly too. It is indeed a similar situation, though, and I'm sure many people who were fans of the story before it was cool disagreed with the decision to start with LotR.

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Post by Makaioshin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:46 pm

Fizzer wrote:Why do people always think it's okay to start the freaking story half way through? It's exactly the same as saying "Yeah, we're starting this new release of Lord of the Rings with The Two Towers", except this is ALMOST ALWAYS what happens to Dragon Ball. Why couldn't Toei have just adapted the ONE manga into ONE anime?

Edit: Oh, wait, I've got it. No release is ever allowed to be definitive, or the fans will be all "okay, we own Dragon Ball now, let's go home guys" and there will be no more mass-quadruple-dipping.
Because they are hopefully just testing the waters with the most popular part of the series.

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Post by Mewzard » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:41 am

I'm wondering now: Did the Full Color job get done on the original WJ material, at that size, or are they ballooning up smaller images? I hope the full-sized material looks good.
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Post by theoriginalbilis » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:32 am

Usually, manga companies get high-resolution assets/images to work with, so I'm sure it'll look fine on the larger format. Most comics are illustrated and colored on a larger medium, then sized down for the printed product.

I wonder if they'll use the same font they've used for the digital WSJ chapters, or will they use a more "comic book"-y typeface for the printed version?
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Post by vince90x » Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:35 am

So I'm kinda confused.. Does this mean it will span across the 26 issues, just in full color?

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Post by Cold Skin » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:08 am

Mewzard wrote:I'm wondering now: Did the Full Color job get done on the original WJ material, at that size, or are they ballooning up smaller images? I hope the full-sized material looks good.
They surely have super-high-definition sources.
With Mangapolo, you can see every single panel in high definition and the quality is stunning, and a single panel is just a small part of a whole page that's already been quite zoomed in those videos - already losing more than half of the original definition.
So with panels being of a pretty impressive HD when they've already lost way more than half of the original definition due to a big zoom, you can easily imagine the source pages are high-high-high definition, and therefore being printable in any book size.

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