Buu Saga Info

[Mjb1985]

I don't know. You guys have good points , I just don't know if I can roll with the thought of someone being equal powers not being considered a threat to the title of the strongest. Just doesn't sit right with me but I definitely understand your points. I have to think about that some more.

[dbzfan7]

I don't know. You guys have good points , I just don't know if I can roll with the thought of someone being equal powers not being considered a threat to the title of the strongest. Just doesn't sit right with me but I definitely understand your points. I have to think about that some more.

Gotenks can't be a threat if Boo can survive the 5 minutes and kill him.

[Mjb1985]

Why can't Gotenks kill Buu in 5 minutes? Goku and Freeza did a ton of fighting in 5 minutes. Humans fighting each other to determine a winner over 5 minutes is really long. A fight can be over in a minute. Heck a minute feels long sometimes.

[dbzfan7]

Why can't Gotenks kill Buu in 5 minutes? Goku and Freeza did a ton of fighting in 5 minutes. Humans fighting each other to determine a winner over 5 minutes is really long. A fight can be over in a minute. Heck a minute feels long sometimes.

Because Boo can keep up with Gotenks and has extreme regeneration. They are on par with each other. I personally believe if Gotenks or Super Boo make a mistake, one of them can capitalize and vaporize the other. Otherwise the fight would end with Gotenks' time running out.

[Mjb1985]

So if Gotenks can vaporize Buu , that would be considered a threat imo. I think Gotenks can easily kill Buu , if Goku can kill Kid Buu , Gotenks should be able to kill Super Buu .

[dbzfan7]

So if Gotenks can vaporize Buu , that would be considered a threat imo. I think Gotenks can easily kill Buu , if Goku can kill Kid Buu , Gotenks should be able to kill Super Buu .

Well the odds of it are low. Of course Gotenks is a threat to Boo. But not enough for Super Boo either absorb someone else or feel like he is in complete jeopardy. The odds of Gotenks getting an opening are small.

[Mjb1985]

So do you think Goku's chances were higher because of IT?

[dbzfan7]

So do you think Goku's chances were higher because of IT?

IT isn't going to increase his chances since he can't use it back to back to out maneuver. We only see that in BoG's. Goku had enough Power to wipe out Kid Boo, but he wasn't going to get that opening he needed since his SSJ3 form drains too much out of him.

[Mjb1985]

The way you make it seem is that Gotenks has no chance to land a KHH yet Goku does when they are in similar situations. Gotenks at least doesn't seem to be as severely effected by the strain. I think Gotenks has a decent shot to land the big hit. And I think Kid Buu would consider Goku a threat seeing as how he tried to use the candy beam against him.

[dbzfan7]

The way you make it seem is that Gotenks has no chance to land a KHH yet Goku does when they are in similar situations. Gotenks at least doesn't seem to be as severely effected by the strain. I think Gotenks has a decent shot to land the big hit. And I think Kid Buu would consider Goku a threat seeing as how he tried to use the candy beam against him.

What I mean is that Gotenks can't just fight him regularly to a stand still or his time will run out. He needs an opening to defeat Super Boo as Super Boo is on par with him. For example when Gotenks was about to win he found an opening. Goku would have a harder time finding a chance to kill Kid Boo as an SSJ3 because the drain takes him away from full power quickly. He would have to be fast to land a finishing blow.

[The Monkey King]

If Gotenks' fusion time hadn't run out that kamehameha would've atomized Super Buu and killed him.

[Mjb1985]

That's a good point as well Monkey King. Even if Buu was boosting Gotenks ego , would he really out himself in harms way like that? He already witnessed the incredible power of the Ghost Kamikaze attacks. Would he let himself be pulverized so badly that he could potentially have to take a life ending FP KHH on?

[RandomGuy96]

I say no. I get that his plan was to absorb them, just in case, but there are better ways to go about that then letting himself get pummeled. Not to mention Buu seemed genuinely mad and distressed a lot of the time. That's why I honestly think he's only like 82% of Gotenks.

[Mjb1985]

Jesus. This is a bit of a doozy. It makes you question authors intent vs character flaws.

Perhaps at the time Gotenks was indeed superior to Buu. But then the author with his writing style decided hey , he's not without thinking about the consequences. Especially considering the Buu Saga and how often this happens , I think it's a possibility.

For instance. Hey guys this is Goku , watch demsontration of Super Saiyan forms. Goten and Trunks watch. One week later Goten and Trunks forget demonstration. Now are the boys lying when they said they didn't know there was a transformation beyond Super Saiyan here? I doubt it. It's just AT writing himself into a wall and saying meh I want to do this now. Or possibly not being consistent and not remembering .

[Draken]

Jesus. This is a bit of a doozy. It makes you question authors intent vs character flaws.

Perhaps at the time Gotenks was indeed superior to Buu. But then the author with his writing style decided hey , he's not without thinking about the consequences. Especially considering the Buu Saga and how often this happens , I think it's a possibility.

For instance. Hey guys this is Goku , watch demsontration of Super Saiyan forms. Goten and Trunks watch. One week later Goten and Trunks forget demonstration. Now are the boys lying when they said they didn't know there was a transformation beyond Super Saiyan here? I doubt it. It's just AT writing himself into a wall and saying meh I want to do this now. Or possibly not being consistent and not remembering .

Didn't Goku only show them in anime filler?

[Mjb1985]

Badibi broadcast Goku vs Buu for the entire world. Remember Trunks was supposed to get the radar and got caught up watching the show only for Goku to yell at him?

The anime filler was back at the lookout for another repeat demonstration.

[Draken]

Badibi broadcast Goku vs Buu for the entire world. Remember Trunks was supposed to get the radar and got caught up watching the show only for Goku to yell at him?

The anime filler was back at the lookout for another repeat demonstration.

Oh I thought Trunks just sensed an enormous power then continued going because he was scared he would get yelled at...

[Mjb1985]

If you close your eyes you can see Badibi's broadcast. Goku knew Trunks was watching because Trunks ki stopped moving. So Goku used this opportunity to yell at Trunks.

[Draken]

If you close your eyes you can see Badibi's broadcast. Goku knew Trunks was watching because Trunks ki stopped moving. So Goku used this opportunity to yell at Trunks.

Huh, can you find me that in the manga? I can't seem to find the right page :O

[Mjb1985]

Just look around for when Goku is fighting Fat Buu.