"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[DNA]

The adolescent form.

Fixed now, thanks for spotting it.
Also removed the entry for Saiyan Beyond God.

[ShadowDude112]

So, I'm guessing that "new hero" that was teased was Tarble, right?

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Don't know yet. Tarble is one of the SECs for GDM4, which releases next week. The video is hyped as promotion for the game's 5th anniversary though...which apparently isn't till October? If it's someone from GDM4 (SS3 Gohan, Tarble, whatever) we'll probably get an updated video soon (next week?), if not...there may be a promo card to go along with the anniversary between sets...or maybe they'll just wait till GDM5? Dunno...

[TheDevilsCorpse]

No surprises for GDM4's card list update. They, ironically, didn't update with Towa's card art and hid the dabra icon as well, despite the fact that the CM that's been running already reveals Dabra on the card...and that CM leak for the SECs.

The website only updated with the card list, for now anyway. if they post anything else interesting later tonight, I'll pop that in here too.





EDIT: Here you go...
The new animation, which reveals Dabra (stupid): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH2rARJrQ3Q
How to Play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFfW-49rLls

Some interesting stuff in the "How to Play" PV.
--Shows Piccolo Daimao and Kami splitting in-game
--Daimao creating what appears to be an teen/adult Piccolo Junior, not the lil' Piccolo...
--Young Daimao fusing with old Kami
-- Giant Daimao, Junior and Slug team attack

[Darknat]

I don't like the new voice for Piccolo Daimao.... However I really like what they show in game with the splitting and with the combination of Kami and Piccolo.

The animation video was ok, nothing unexpected there.

[DNA]

Things I'm disappointed with:
- Dabra is a secret card. Is been shown everywhere by now, even the CM. Why keep him a secret at this point?
- No new cards for Piccolo Daimao Base and Ma Junior.
- No cards for whatever the heck is that fusion of Piccolo Daimao and Kami.
- There is one card for Towa, and it's obscured with Dabra.
- They are still holding on to Cado, Abo and Aka cards despite they being in the game for the past... I want to say 5 sets?

I hope some of these are solved by the next set, along with the inclusion of Drum and Cymbal, and I hope for Naraka to be included, possibly has the SEC.

Card chart has been updated, and I've just noticed that Kami and Daimao old or young are considered the same. Odd choice.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Indeed. But try to look at it as if it was the "Ultimate" state of Son Gohan, Heroes treats it as a state rather than a transformation of a mastery form.

Thing is, the game treats "Ultimate" as a transformation and "Saiyan Beyond God" as nothing. So I'm not gonna bother about it anymore.

Eh? The game does treat it as a transformation, his model just doesn't change because base & SbG look the same.

[Absolute Ice]

This is the third time Trunks appears as Super Saiyan 3 in a trailer. Too bad. There would be cooler if Gogeta and everyone else who got the transformation also appeared in these trailers (the same goes for Super Saiyan 2, which only Gogeta appeared as that form in JM5. And speaking of Super Saiyan 2, no one appeared using it here, nor even Xeno Bardock). I would love to see Tarble as well.

Kind of anxious to see who is the "new hero" they are teasing, probably more information about it around October or November.

EDIT: This guy uploaded all the techniques they used in the game as you can see here and here, there are some pretty cool attacks, eh.

[DI297]

Is there any video showing ppl using dabura and tarble cards? I've been looking for a video all these days and still nothing

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Is there any video showing ppl using dabura and tarble cards? I've been looking for a video all these days and still nothing

You wasted your time. The set doesn't release till Thursday in Japan (Wednesday in the west).

Though we do know Dabra: Xeno's attack is the "Hell Rusher" and Tarble uses the Gyarik-ho.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Most of the time when we get these Saiyan what-ifs, like SS3 Gohan, we eventually get a card that allows for transformation into said form. I'm minorly curious if this Piccolo outfit variation has the same basic teenage Gohan hairstyle in base and they were just lazy when they decided to reuse Future Gohan's bangs, or if he actually features a different design where the bangs make sense...

Probably just the former though.

[Absolute Ice]

And here are the SECs cards in a better quality.

Spoiler:

I really hope gives the Oozaru transformation to every single Saiyan, it would be cool.

[DNA]

I really hope gives the Oozaru transformation to every single Saiyan, it would be cool.

How would that be cool? We already have 10 counting both normal and Super Ozarus. Giving it to every single saiyan would be 14 more, do you really want that many giant monkeys around? And I just counted pure saiyans, mind you.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It's not like they'd be pulling the apes out of their asses. If the Saiyans have tails, they could access the form in the series proper. The regular brown versions usually aren't treated as SECs, and thus most likely wouldn't be taking space for anything more interesting. So honestly, what's it matter at this point if we have 5, 10, 20 or 50 of them? They wouldn't be causing any more harm than scraping the bottom of the barrel for half the other characters they have or some of the what-ifs they have created.

[Absolute Ice]

Yes I would. Like DevilsCorpse said, Tarble, Nappa and Raditz (maybe Paragus and T-u-r-l-e-s as well) having their Oozarus forms wouldn't cause any harm, on the contrary, it would be cool to have some more visual look/arts of them in that form, not to mention they don't have a transformation yet in Dragon Ball Heroes, so an Oozaru should be enough for them.

Oozaru F-a-s-h-a could be nice, as she is the only female around.

[DNA]

Yes I would. Like DevilsCorpse said, Tarble, Nappa and Raditz (maybe Paragus and T-u-r-l-e-s as well) having their Oozarus forms wouldn't cause any harm, on the contrary, it would be cool to have some more visual look/arts of them in that form, not to mention they don't have a transformation yet in Dragon Ball Heroes, so an Oozaru should be enough for them.

Oozaru F-a-s-h-a could be nice, as she is the only female around.

Sure, but you did say every saiyan.
This is everyone with a tail:
Ozaru Xeno Bardock
Ozaru Kid Vegeta
Super Ozaru GT Vegeta
Ozaru Tarble
Ozaru Raditz
Ozaru Young Nappa
Ozaru Nappa
Ozaru Panpukin
Ozaru Selipa
Ozaru Toma
Ozaru Totepo
Ozaru Tullece
Ozaru Paragus

I for one wouldn't like all of these people to have Ozaru. Some? Sure why not.

[Absolute Ice]

Yeah but you guys didn't like the idea, so I specified a few that I really would like to see in the next comment. xD

Characters like Nappa/Young Nappa would certainly have their Oozaru forms the same design, so uh... One could say it is the same character, even if Heroes treats them as separates, so it's not a big deal. Oozaru Xeno Bardock would not have the Time Breaker symbol in his forehead, it is a minor difference, but still.
And when I say they should get the transformation, it could work the same way Son Gohan got Super Saiyan 3 now... Without being SEC or much marketing upon it, you know.

EDIT: I remembered now GM6 brought a lot of new Oozarus. So you could say it was the "Festival of Great Apes" in Dragon Ball Heroes. xD
Maybe if there is to exist another "festival", some of them might get their Oozarus forms.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I'm not seeing the problem here. Especially when they've already broken the barrier with the "what-if" of King Vegeta (and Broli & Gogeta if you really want to count them...)

Bardock's squad members were actually shown as Ozaru in the TV special.
Bardock: Xeno very well may end up with it eventually since his regular version and Masked Saiyan self has it.
Tullece, Nappa and Raditz have been given it in other games, and if Nappa gets it, Young Nappa might as well too.
I'm actually surprised GT Vegeta hasn't gotten his Super Ozaru form yet.
That just leaves Kid Vegeta, Tarble, and Paragus. So why the hell not go all in?

In general, it just seems silly to me to be like "I ONLY want the Ozaru forms I WANT." or "These Ozaru are okay, but these ones would hurt the game." Feels as pointless as if I'd start saying I don't want Yakon in...or Tambourine is okay, but I don't want Drum, Cymbal, etc. I could understand if it were about the whoring out of SS transformations to characters, or at least versions of characters, that didn't need it, but it's just Ozaru. No stretching of the imagination required; tail, moon/power ball and it fits.

[Absolute Ice]

I could understand if it were about the whoring out of SS transformations to characters, or at least versions of characters, that didn't need it, but it's just Ozaru. No stretching of the imagination required; tail, moon/power ball and it fits.

That is exactly the reason I just prefer them to have their Oozarus forms and why I ask them to have. You know, even Heroes being what it is, the Super Saiyan transformation was, until this very point, given only to Bardock (and Mira, if you does consider him), as everyone else already had the form in the original series.

Giving Super Saiyan to all these characters mentioned here and now would certainly represent perfectly the "Super Saiyan bargain sale" which Vegeta talks about. I could ask for the Super Saiyan form, but that would be too much for me.
I also don't see the problem with all of them having just the Oozaru form.

And speaking of it, mind-controlled Oozaru Son Gohan appeared in Dragon Ball Online. What are the chances of him appearing in Dragon Ball Heroes?

[DNA]

I just think that having that many giant characters that are basically palette swaps/outfit change of one another is just... Too much? In the end I don't really care that much to be honest, I just don't see the point in "wanting" it.