"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Michsi]

Gohan jumped in for Piccolo, given Piccolo time to counter attack. Like I said, Piccolo was literally leaning over and opened to attack. Gohan never got into that position.

We're going to end up going in circles but - yes, he did. Saonel was about to blast him away. If this is purely because Gohan wasn't incapacitated by his own opponent, then that is the most minuscule of differences. As I said, both performed nearly identical as far as blow for blow comparison goes. And again, the most important aspect - both looked just as tired. Gohan hasn't regenerated three arms in the span of half an hour, yet there he was, gasping.

[namekiansaiyan]

The problem is you take everything into account when somethings are completely nonsense and contradict everything else. If we did what you are doing then Piccolo would probably be in the bottom 15 strongest fighers due to all the other fighters fighting the Saiyans and you put Piccolo below all base Saiyans.

All 3 Namekians and Gohan in this fight are strong and you should not compare fighters to Goku as even Super Saiyan Goku can wipe out 80% of fighters as Super Saiyan 2 Goku was able to move Jiren a little bit.

I doubt that stamina thing from episode 106 will help decide the outcome of this fight that much as that is almost certaintly a Toei thing to create some drama for the episode.

Why wouldn’t I? If I didn’t, I would be cherry-picking like you.

Piccolo probably would be at the bottom, but he isn’t since he has for the most part avoided people who can kick his ass. That’s what Roshi did and he stood around longer than the stronger humans and other characters above him. In other words, Piccolo is playing it smart.

I said they’re not that strong. If these Namekians as a highball is only on par with the base Saiyans, then that isn’t saying much. They would be strong enough to wipe fodder, but not strong enough to fight people like Monna, pure power-wise.

Oh look a ‘Toei thing’. Guess who writes the epsoides? And Piccolo just in this last episode was shown breathing hard, so stamina is an issue with him. And saying ‘Toei thing’ comes off as a little denial, which remains me of Tien fans before 106.

I said in my previous post that if you do then they all contradict each other.

You say Piccolo is not strong enough so he is avoiding everyone so why was 18 going around attacking the Pride Troopers and Universe 4 members with ease even though we know Piccolo is stronger than her?

Yes Toei nonsense is a thing especially with Piccolo as all you have to do is look at the difference between the 2 versions of Resurrection of F. Gohan and Piccolo are breathing heavily from this fight due to them fighting strong opponents.

[omaro34]

I see the two Namekians from universe six fusing together as a last ditch effort. That will automatically make them a top tier fighter.

All of the original fighters from universe six back from the Champa arc are now eliminated. Universe six only has the two Saiyan girls and the two Namekians. They're in trouble. I see Kale going absolutely berserk if she sees Caulifla get eliminated, and I see the fused Namekian being a heavy hitter, and seeing that they lasted this long, I just don't see how the writers wouldn't have anything cool planned for them. They are that universe's last hope as well as Kale and Caulifla.

[HeroR]

We're going to end up going in circles but - yes, he did. Saonel was about to blast him away. If this is purely because Gohan wasn't incapacitated by his own opponent, then that is the most minuscule of differences. As I said, both performed nearly identical as far as blow for blow comparison goes. And again, the most important aspect - both looked just as tired. Gohan hasn't regenerated three arms in the span of half an hour, yet there he was, gasping.

Why is not being disable a ‘minuscule of difference’? In a battle, a moment where you can’t defend yourself can be fatal. It makes a huge different.

I said in my previous post that if you do then they all contradict each other.

You say Piccolo is not strong enough so he is avoiding everyone so why was 18 going around attacking the Pride Troopers and Universe 4 members with ease even though we know Piccolo is stronger than her?

Yes Toei nonsense is a thing especially with Piccolo as all you have to do is look at the difference between the 2 versions of Resurrection of F. Gohan and Piccolo are breathing heavily from this fight due to them fighting strong opponents.

But it doesn’t. In this tourument, Piccolo isn’t that strong.

She fought a Pride Trooper around her powe-range since not all the Pride Troopers are god-level. And 18 nearly lost to U4 members. Krillin had to actually saved her and the blind wolf was so strong that 18 wanted to retreat.

‘Toei nonsense’ is just a salty excuse to explain why Piccolo’s weak. Gohan in base form preformed better than Piccolo who couldn’t defend himself for a brief moment. If Piccolo isn’t going unleash his ‘true’ power now, this is his limit. It’s the same excuses we kept getting about Tien until he was thrown out.

[perucho1990]

I see the two Namekians from universe six fusing together as a last ditch effort. That will automatically make them a top tier fighter.

All of the original fighters from universe six back from the Champa arc are now eliminated. Universe six only has the two Saiyan girls and the two Namekians. They're in trouble. I see Kale going absolutely berserk if she sees Caulifla get eliminated, and I see the fused Namekian being a heavy hitter, and seeing that they lasted this long, I just don't see how the writers wouldn't have anything cool planned for them. They are that universe's last hope as well as Kale and Caulifla.

Either Caulifla or Kale will get another powerup, if its the former then it could be Ikari, a reminder that Toei doesnt care at all about PLs, logic and consistency will go to the trash can.

[namekiansaiyan]

I see the two Namekians from universe six fusing together as a last ditch effort. That will automatically make them a top tier fighter.

All of the original fighters from universe six back from the Champa arc are now eliminated. Universe six only has the two Saiyan girls and the two Namekians. They're in trouble. I see Kale going absolutely berserk if she sees Caulifla get eliminated, and I see the fused Namekian being a heavy hitter, and seeing that they lasted this long, I just don't see how the writers wouldn't have anything cool planned for them. They are that universe's last hope as well as Kale and Caulifla.

If they fuse then Piccolo and Gohan are doomed.

Jiren will have to get moving again.

[Totamo]

Yeah, I can just feel the fanbase exploding over next week's episode and not the fun kind like the arale episode, the vicious kind like episode 66 .


The kind that divides the fandom and results in mudslinging from both sides so I'm going to just avoid it.


These female saiyans might be the best example of be careful what you wish for, though I never wish for female saiyans, you just might get it. They might be one of the most divisive things about super and that is saying a lot.

[omaro34]

I see the two Namekians from universe six fusing together as a last ditch effort. That will automatically make them a top tier fighter.

All of the original fighters from universe six back from the Champa arc are now eliminated. Universe six only has the two Saiyan girls and the two Namekians. They're in trouble. I see Kale going absolutely berserk if she sees Caulifla get eliminated, and I see the fused Namekian being a heavy hitter, and seeing that they lasted this long, I just don't see how the writers wouldn't have anything cool planned for them. They are that universe's last hope as well as Kale and Caulifla.

If they fuse then Piccolo and Gohan are doomed.

Jiren will have to get moving again.

I don't think them fusing is completely out of the realm of possibilities. They are four eliminations away from getting erased. At this point, they have got to do everything in their power to survive.

Piccolo would be doomed unless they think of something creative for him. Gohan always pulls things out of nowhere so he wouldn't be screwed. Regardless, I hope they save the two Namekians for Piccolo. This isn't Gohan's fight, I see him fighting Dyspo. Let the Namekian on Namekian violence continue!

Also, the androids especially 18 have been sort of forgotten about. She hasn't done anything worthwhile since she berated Krillin for dropping his guard after he saved her, and that feels like ages ago.

[TheDipDap1234]

She fought a Pride Trooper around her powe-range since not all the Pride Troopers are god-level. And 18 nearly lost to U4 members. Krillin had to actually saved her and the blind wolf was so strong that 18 wanted to retreat.

I don't remember that one happening. How would she even know how strong Majora is when she didn't even see him fight and the only thing she knows about him is that he has sharp senses?

[Michsi]

We're going to end up going in circles but - yes, he did. Saonel was about to blast him away. If this is purely because Gohan wasn't incapacitated by his own opponent, then that is the most minuscule of differences. As I said, both performed nearly identical as far as blow for blow comparison goes. And again, the most important aspect - both looked just as tired. Gohan hasn't regenerated three arms in the span of half an hour, yet there he was, gasping.

Why is not being disable a ‘minuscule of difference’? In a battle, a moment where you can’t defend yourself can be fatal. It makes a huge different.

No, not 'being disabled' was the minuscule difference, but what caused each to get to that point. It seems that simply because Gohan was the one to jump in for Piccolo first (for once) that makes all the difference for some, even though he ended up being just as defenseless too and required assistance in that second as badly as Piccolo had needed it the second before. He got kicked, he left himself open, he shows signs of fatigue too. If we were supposed to be led to believe Piccolo was suffering more than Gohan after that short bout, than it should've been made more clear. As it was, my take on it was that it was fairly well balanced between them. They showed how well each pair can fight as a team; I think that was the whole point of that scene.

[Jigurashi]

The Namekians fusing would be cool, but I don't see them getting Jiren to do anything lol. I don't want Gohan taking them down though. I'd rather they actually create a clever scenario to have Piccolo defeat them, but it's far more likely Gohan gets involved in defeating them some way with Piccolo.

[namekiansaiyan]

We're going to end up going in circles but - yes, he did. Saonel was about to blast him away. If this is purely because Gohan wasn't incapacitated by his own opponent, then that is the most minuscule of differences. As I said, both performed nearly identical as far as blow for blow comparison goes. And again, the most important aspect - both looked just as tired. Gohan hasn't regenerated three arms in the span of half an hour, yet there he was, gasping.

Why is not being disable a ‘minuscule of difference’? In a battle, a moment where you can’t defend yourself can be fatal. It makes a huge different.

I said in my previous post that if you do then they all contradict each other.

You say Piccolo is not strong enough so he is avoiding everyone so why was 18 going around attacking the Pride Troopers and Universe 4 members with ease even though we know Piccolo is stronger than her?

Yes Toei nonsense is a thing especially with Piccolo as all you have to do is look at the difference between the 2 versions of Resurrection of F. Gohan and Piccolo are breathing heavily from this fight due to them fighting strong opponents.

But it doesn’t. In this tourument, Piccolo isn’t that strong.

She fought a Pride Trooper around her powe-range since not all the Pride Troopers are god-level. And 18 nearly lost to U4 members. Krillin had to actually saved her and the blind wolf was so strong that 18 wanted to retreat.

‘Toei nonsense’ is just a salty excuse to explain why Piccolo’s weak. Gohan in base form preformed better than Piccolo who couldn’t defend himself for a brief moment. If Piccolo isn’t going unleash his ‘true’ power now, this is his limit. It’s the same excuses we kept getting about Tien until he was thrown out.

Gohan got slammed to the floor by Pilina just like how Piccolo got hit down by Saonel. Gohan protected Piccolo and then Piccolo protected Gohan. That seems even to me. You say you take everything into account when determing how good they are but you are not this time.

I see the two Namekians from universe six fusing together as a last ditch effort. That will automatically make them a top tier fighter.

All of the original fighters from universe six back from the Champa arc are now eliminated. Universe six only has the two Saiyan girls and the two Namekians. They're in trouble. I see Kale going absolutely berserk if she sees Caulifla get eliminated, and I see the fused Namekian being a heavy hitter, and seeing that they lasted this long, I just don't see how the writers wouldn't have anything cool planned for them. They are that universe's last hope as well as Kale and Caulifla.

If they fuse then Piccolo and Gohan are doomed.

Jiren will have to get moving again.

I don't think them fusing is completely out of the realm of possibilities. They are four eliminations away from getting erased. At this point, they have got to do everything in their power to survive.

Piccolo would be doomed unless they think of something creative for him. Gohan always pulls things out of nowhere so he wouldn't be screwed. Regardless, I hope they save the two Namekians for Piccolo. This isn't Gohan's fight, I see him fighting Dyspo. Let the Namekian on Namekian violence continue!

Also, the androids especially 18 have been sort of forgotten about. She hasn't done anything worthwhile since she berated Krillin for dropping his guard after he saved her, and that feels like ages ago.

I see Frieza fighting Dyspo and Toppo against Vegeta.

If Piccolo and Gohan beat the Namekians then this is also not Piccolo's last fight.

They might fuse but I think they will be insanely strong if they do.

The Namekians fusing would be cool, but I don't see them getting Jiren to do anything lol. I don't want Gohan taking them down though. I'd rather they actually create a clever scenario to have Piccolo defeat them, but it's far more likely Gohan gets involved in defeating them some way with Piccolo.

If Piccolo and Gohan beat them there is no way Piccolo doesn't get the final hit.

[HeroR]

She fought a Pride Trooper around her powe-range since not all the Pride Troopers are god-level. And 18 nearly lost to U4 members. Krillin had to actually saved her and the blind wolf was so strong that 18 wanted to retreat.

I don't remember that one happening. How would she even know how strong Majora is when she didn't even see him fight and the only thing she knows about him is that he has sharp senses?

She and Krillin tried to fight him together. Didn’t end well. It was 99.

No, not 'being disabled' was the minuscule difference, but what caused each to get to that point. It seems that simply because Gohan was the one to jump in for Piccolo first (for once) that makes all the difference for some, even though he ended up being just as defenseless too and required assistance in that second as badly as Piccolo had needed it the second before. He got kicked, he left himself open, he shows signs of fatigue too. If we were supposed to be led to believe Piccolo was suffering more than Gohan after that short bout, than it should've been made more clear. As it was, my take on it was that it was fairly well balanced between them. They showed how well each pair can fight as a team; I think that was the whole point of that scene.

Gohan wouldn’t have to jump in if Piccolo was able to defend himself. The scene was quite clear. They were both struggling, but Piccolo more so.

[TheDipDap1234]

She fought a Pride Trooper around her powe-range since not all the Pride Troopers are god-level. And 18 nearly lost to U4 members. Krillin had to actually saved her and the blind wolf was so strong that 18 wanted to retreat.

I don't remember that one happening. How would she even know how strong Majora is when she didn't even see him fight and the only thing she knows about him is that he has sharp senses?

She and Krillin tried to fight him together. Didn’t end well. It was 99.

They never did? They fought against the guy who faked his death, but they never fought together against the blind wolf Majora. Krillin was confident that he could take out Majora on his own and 18 was worried about him. Majora was confident he could take out both Krillin and 18 but that doesn't say much. Just look at the recent episode. Monna was confident she could take out not only Cabba, Kale and Caulifla, but also Vegeta on her own, and we all know she's not stronger than any of them.

[precita]

I wonder what happened to all the GAF'ers whose site imploded the night of the new Super episode. I thought they would all come here but they didn't. I guess they went to reddit.

[HeroR]

They never did? They fought against the guy who faked his death, but they never fought together against the blind wolf Majora. Krillin was confident that he could take out Majora on his own and 18 was worried about him. Majora was confident he could take out both Krillin and 18 but that doesn't say much. Just look at the recent episode. Monna was confident she could take out not only Cabba, Kale and Caulifla, but also Vegeta on her own, and we all know she's not stronger than any of them.

18 did say to retreat since she didn’t feel Krillin and her together could win. So it wasn’t just the wolf guy boasting.

[Michsi]

Gohan wouldn’t have to jump in if Piccolo was able to defend himself. The scene was quite clear. They were both struggling, but Piccolo more so.

And Piccolo wouldn't have had to jump in then if Gohan had been able to defend himself. See what I did there?

Had Gohan kicked away Saonel himself instead of relying on Piccolo (I mean, Gohan needed Piccolo to help him help Piccolo?), then I would've also thought Piccolo was struggling more, but the scene seemed specifically built to show how in tune they were as partners - nothing more.

[HeroR]

Gohan wouldn’t have to jump in if Piccolo was able to defend himself. The scene was quite clear. They were both struggling, but Piccolo more so.

And Piccolo wouldn't have had to jump in then if Gohan had been able to defend himself. See what I did there?

Had Gohan kicked away Saonel himself instead of relying on Piccolo (I mean, Gohan needed Piccolo to help him help Piccolo?), then I would've also thought Piccolo was struggling more, but the scene seemed specifically built to show how in tune they were as partners - nothing more.

But he wasn’t. Piccolo was.

I wonder what happened to all the GAF'ers whose site imploded the night of the new Super episode. I thought they would all come here but they didn't. I guess they went to reddit.

They went to Gaf Discord.

[perucho1990]

Yeah, I can just feel the fanbase exploding over next week's episode and not the fun kind like the arale episode, the vicious kind like episode 66 .


The kind that divides the fandom and results in mudslinging from both sides so I'm going to just avoid it.


These female saiyans might be the best example of be careful what you wish for, though I never wish for female saiyans, you just might get it. They might be one of the most divisive things about super and that is saying a lot.

People got mad at the Arale episode? When she is a gag character like Saitama, Bugs Bunny, etc.

From what I've seen from the fans in other sites , Caulifla reactions in the West are as mixed as Ronda Rousey at her peak, WWE Alexa Bliss

[Jigurashi]

We're going to end up going in circles but - yes, he did. Saonel was about to blast him away. If this is purely because Gohan wasn't incapacitated by his own opponent, then that is the most minuscule of differences. As I said, both performed nearly identical as far as blow for blow comparison goes. And again, the most important aspect - both looked just as tired. Gohan hasn't regenerated three arms in the span of half an hour, yet there he was, gasping.

Why is not being disable a ‘minuscule of difference’? In a battle, a moment where you can’t defend yourself can be fatal. It makes a huge different.

I said in my previous post that if you do then they all contradict each other.

You say Piccolo is not strong enough so he is avoiding everyone so why was 18 going around attacking the Pride Troopers and Universe 4 members with ease even though we know Piccolo is stronger than her?

Yes Toei nonsense is a thing especially with Piccolo as all you have to do is look at the difference between the 2 versions of Resurrection of F. Gohan and Piccolo are breathing heavily from this fight due to them fighting strong opponents.

But it doesn’t. In this tourument, Piccolo isn’t that strong.

She fought a Pride Trooper around her powe-range since not all the Pride Troopers are god-level. And 18 nearly lost to U4 members. Krillin had to actually saved her and the blind wolf was so strong that 18 wanted to retreat.

‘Toei nonsense’ is just a salty excuse to explain why Piccolo’s weak. Gohan in base form preformed better than Piccolo who couldn’t defend himself for a brief moment. If Piccolo isn’t going unleash his ‘true’ power now, this is his limit. It’s the same excuses we kept getting about Tien until he was thrown out.

Gohan got slammed to the floor by Pilina just like how Piccolo got hit down by Saonel. Gohan protected Piccolo and then Piccolo protected Gohan. That seems even to me. You say you take everything into account when determing how good they are but you are not this time.

If they fuse then Piccolo and Gohan are doomed.

Jiren will have to get moving again.

I don't think them fusing is completely out of the realm of possibilities. They are four eliminations away from getting erased. At this point, they have got to do everything in their power to survive.

Piccolo would be doomed unless they think of something creative for him. Gohan always pulls things out of nowhere so he wouldn't be screwed. Regardless, I hope they save the two Namekians for Piccolo. This isn't Gohan's fight, I see him fighting Dyspo. Let the Namekian on Namekian violence continue!

Also, the androids especially 18 have been sort of forgotten about. She hasn't done anything worthwhile since she berated Krillin for dropping his guard after he saved her, and that feels like ages ago.

I see Frieza fighting Dyspo and Toppo against Vegeta.

If Piccolo and Gohan beat the Namekians then this is also not Piccolo's last fight.

They might fuse but I think they will be insanely strong if they do.

The Namekians fusing would be cool, but I don't see them getting Jiren to do anything lol. I don't want Gohan taking them down though. I'd rather they actually create a clever scenario to have Piccolo defeat them, but it's far more likely Gohan gets involved in defeating them some way with Piccolo.

If Piccolo and Gohan beat them there is no way Piccolo doesn't get the final hit.

I'll wait for the conclusion of that fight instead. Too many people like to think they know how something is going to turn out, but it doesn't often go the exact way people think it will.

Gohan wouldn’t have to jump in if Piccolo was able to defend himself. The scene was quite clear. They were both struggling, but Piccolo more so.

And Piccolo wouldn't have had to jump in then if Gohan had been able to defend himself. See what I did there?

Had Gohan kicked away Saonel himself instead of relying on Piccolo (I mean, Gohan needed Piccolo to help him help Piccolo?), then I would've also thought Piccolo was struggling more, but the scene seemed specifically built to show how in tune they were as partners - nothing more.

But he wasn’t. Piccolo was.

I wonder what happened to all the GAF'ers whose site imploded the night of the new Super episode. I thought they would all come here but they didn't. I guess they went to reddit.

They went to Gaf Discord.

Can I get a link to that?