The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Silkman3003 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:07 am

Super Saiyan god Goku without a time limit verses(seperately)

1. Super Baby Vegeta

2. Great Ape Baby Vegeta

3. Super 17

4. Omega Shenron

from all the info you've read about the movie so far, and the few clips you'd seen, how do you currently think these matches would go?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:14 am

Silkman3003 wrote:Super Saiyan god Goku without a time limit verses(seperately)

1. Super Baby Vegeta

2. Great Ape Baby Vegeta

3. Super 17

4. Omega Shenron

from all the info you've read about the movie so far, and the few clips you'd seen, how do you currently think these matches would go?
SSJ God Goku beats all 4 combined.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:10 am

Goku beats them all. I have Beers stronger than anyone we've seen before.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:14 am

Vegetto could take him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:23 am

Rocketman wrote:Vegetto could take him.
To the candy shop. Beers is stated to be stronger.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:26 am

Silkman3003 wrote:Super Saiyan god Goku without a time limit verses(seperately)

1. Super Baby Vegeta

2. Great Ape Baby Vegeta

3. Super 17

4. Omega Shenron

from all the info you've read about the movie so far, and the few clips you'd seen, how do you currently think these matches would go?
One shot by any of them. Nothing I've seen so far has lead me to believe that SSG stacks up to GT.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:52 am

He may be able to handle the first three (MAY), but Omega Shenron can and will make the Super Saiyan God his bitch.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:32 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:SSJ God Goku beats all 4 combined.
All 4 combined? Isn't that a bit too much?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MDSTSSJ » Mon Apr 01, 2013 3:47 am

Watch out with Super 17 because he absorbs energy and could be a very powerful opponent.

Golden Ozaru Baby Vegeta beats SSJG Kakarotto with 3 punches.

Omega Shenron beats SSJG Kakarotto with a finger.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:36 am

Dabura vs Bojack.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:26 am

Base Goku (God) vs Base Goku (GT)

Both of them are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo arc). Who wins?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:29 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Base Goku (God) vs Base Goku (GT)

Both of them are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo arc). Who wins?
GT, he keeps getting stronger and stronger throughout the show.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:47 am

I'm sorry, but what?!
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:49 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Base Goku (God) vs Base Goku (GT)

Both of them are stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Boo arc). Who wins?
Base God Goku, he was fighting with Beers who is IMO stronger than SSJ4 because Beers is stronger than Vegetto. Also God Goku seems to be far above his SSJ3 self, GT base isn't that far above his SSJ3 Z self, if at all. Also, going by the power guide for BOG, SSJ3 Goku seems to have gotten stronger than his Boo arc self.

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Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:17 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I'm sorry, but what?!
What? Both are stronger than SS3 Goku, and that's all we know. But GT Goku starts out that way and continues to get stronger from there. So I'm giving it to him.
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Post by Ringworm128 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:39 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Vegetto could take him.
To the candy shop. Beers is stated to be stronger.
But what if he went SSJ3?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:02 am

Saiga wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I'm sorry, but what?!
What? Both are stronger than SS3 Goku, and that's all we know. But GT Goku starts out that way and continues to get stronger from there. So I'm giving it to him.
When did Goku became stronger?
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Rocketman wrote:Vegetto could take him.
To the candy shop. Beers is stated to be stronger.
But what if he went SSJ3?
Still candy shop. Goku has experienced Super Vegetto's power, and he has also experienced the Super Saiyan 3 power, so he should be able to guess Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto's power. However, when he transformed into Super Saiyan God, he was impressed that there was such kind of power.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:16 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Saiga wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I'm sorry, but what?!
What? Both are stronger than SS3 Goku, and that's all we know. But GT Goku starts out that way and continues to get stronger from there. So I'm giving it to him.
When did Goku became stronger?.
Throughout GT, I mean.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:22 am

Again, when was he shown to have gotten stronger?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:05 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:SSJ God Goku beats all 4 combined.
All 4 combined? Isn't that a bit too much?
I don't think so. I already think base Vegetto stomps all of GT.
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