Ok there are 3 of you with mountains of comments from each, I wont dare plan to keep this up, way too time consuming, ya'll know how long this took me to put!? give me back my wasted time talking with strangers on the net! by the off chance that you think I'm really pissed... I'm not, I'm just playin with you 3
HeroR wrote:
Cali is an unoffensive character, while Vegeta was just terrible since his entire purpose was padding the plot for the Cell and Buu Saga. That is different than 'I personally hate this character'. Vegeta was bad because he was a plot device created to keep the story going where it could have naturally ended like Semi-Perfect Cell being defeated, Gohan killing Super Perfect Cell without a disabled arm, and the entire Majin Buu Saga.
And her gig is not 'doing it for her' to a certain group of people like you who are very vocal. Since she has a fanbases that likes her, a fairly large one too given her sells, then she must be doing something right, otherwise she would be GT Pan.
Fair enough, but I still say she needs development just as any new character does, I'm normally not this vocal when it comes to disliking a character, she is by far the first and I've watched quite the list of anime and tv series.
Simere wrote:
Stop trying to speak for the majority. I don't know exactly what you yourself expect a torture session to do for Caulifla's character, but I've seen other people who have this idea that it will make her know her place, be more humble, be less cocky.
True, the majority already spoke for itself
as for me while a good ol torture would be just as good but something similar to what Cabba got would be fine with me.
That's not going to happen. Her attitude isn't based on a perception that she's #1; she already knows that she's not that.
And you're sure of this how? because from what I saw thats not how she came off at all.
It's like you don't realize people ranting on forums and Youtube aren't necessarily representative of the whole fandom.
They still represent a part of the fandom which is good enough, we can never gauge it to a complete degree so stop trying to make it sound like I'm being literal, you and I both know thats not my main point.
Kinokima wrote:
Again Vegeta and Cauli are not the same. Then again I see a lot of people saying Cell Saga Vegeta and Vegeta in this arc are the same. Arrogance may be a character flaw but it is not the absolute worst thing either that a character always needs to be brought down a peg for it.
Vegeta's problem in the cell arc wasn't just that he was prideful it's that he let his pride be more important than anything else.
Do they need to be the same for Cauli to earn a character development for herself?
I am sure she will eventually lose but why does she need to be humiliated and tortured. I don't get you.
Thats normally the breaking point that makes you start liking the character for some people including me, you even viewed Vegeta's beatdown against Freeza as a character development for him, so why does it change when it comes to Cauli being the one getting a close treatment? I'm not saying it has to be the same, but this is a shonen thing, a clean or brutal ass whooping is normal in this genre, its kind of a way to connect to the fans, you connected with Vegeta after he got owned by Freeza didnt you? its not fun for some yes, but it can make you connect to the character.
No one is a horrible character. Every character has their fans and detractors. I don't mind Cauli one way or the other. I find the extreme hatred of her by some fans disconcerting though.
Characters being horrible is subjective tho, which is why a lot of fans dislikes her or as you say, some even hates her with passion.
