Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[ArchedThunder]

Shuichi does this as a hobby ?? What is his "real job" then ? Seriously though, hobby I wish I was half as talented as this guy.

I didn't say it was a hobby, just that with how little he works on it would imply that animation is more of a side thing for him.

[Ajay]

I didn't say it was a hobby, just that with how little he works on it would imply that animation is more of a side thing for him.

I think it's more that he doesn't work in commercial anime that often and is still very young. I don't think this is a side project for him given his contacts and the high-end shows he's worked on.

From looking at the Japanese wiki, all of his major successes have been in shorts at Animator Expo. Though he has a strong relationship with Gainax and Trigger, which accounts for their presence on Super #16.

In fact, he's the character designer on the upcoming TV special adaptation of 'Dragon Dentist", based on the short of the same name by Ōtarō Maijō, which funnily enough debuted at Animator Expo. It airs in February.

I'm sure he's done other stuff in between Super and preparing for this, but it's hard to keep track of anime credits without being able to read Japanese. The Sakuga Wiki only does so much, unfortunately.

[ArchedThunder]

I didn't say it was a hobby, just that with how little he works on it would imply that animation is more of a side thing for him.

I think it's more that he doesn't work in commercial anime that often and is still very young. I don't think this is a side project for him given his contacts and the high-end shows he's worked on.

From looking at the Japanese wiki, all of his major successes have been in shorts at Animator Expo. Though he has a strong relationship with Gainax and Trigger, which accounts for their presence on Super #16.

In fact, he's the character designer on the upcoming TV special adaptation of 'Dragon Dentist", based on the short of the same name by Ōtarō Maijō, which funnily enough debuted at Animator Expo. It airs in February.

I'm sure he's done other stuff in between Super and preparing for this, but it's hard to keep track of anime credits without being able to read Japanese. The Sakuga Wiki only does so much, unfortunately.

Oh, is he the same one that did Me! Me! Me!? I was trying to figure that out, but English resources aren't exactly the best.
I wonder what lead to him doing a single episode of Super, so strange.

[Ajay]

Oh, is he the same one that did Me! Me! Me!? I was trying to figure that out, but English resources aren't exactly the best.
I wonder what lead to him doing a single episode of Super, so strange.

Yup, same one!

I've wondered the same, too. It's so bizarre. The whole staff list is just pure Gainax, Trigger, and Khara animators. Very strong team. Hisashi Mori, of all people pops up.

I wonder if Chioka was friends with Iseki or perhaps someone spoke to Mori since he's the major link that I can see. I have no idea, really, but I wish they'd come back.

[ArchedThunder]

I wonder if Chioka was friends with Iseki or perhaps someone spoke to Mori since he's the major link that I can see. I have no idea, really, but I wish they'd come back.

It'd be nice, but I honestly don't think it will happen.
Maybe the planets will align and he'll replace Yamamuro as character designer... yeah that won't happen, but it's nice to dream.

[Gashif Aldi]

I wonder if Chioka was friends with Iseki or perhaps someone spoke to Mori since he's the major link that I can see. I have no idea, really, but I wish they'd come back.

It'd be nice, but I honestly don't think it will happen.
Maybe the planets will align and he'll replace Yamamuro as character designer... yeah that won't happen, but it's nice to dream.

Maybe, because it's been a long time since Iseki worked on Dragon Ball (if he ever worked on it), or it's his favourite series. So he convince all of his friends/team/connection to work in the series for a mark.
Well, maybe Iseki is really using his time as a human rather than become a robots in his young days.
I have a question... Is he and his team also rushed while working on episode 16?

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I have a question... Is he and his team also rushed while working on episode 16?

I'm sure he was every bit at rushed as the others. Although there wasn't much demand for impressive animation that episode, so it doesn't really show.

[Ajay]

I have a question... Is he and his team also rushed while working on episode 16?

It's impossible to really say for sure when you get one-off episodes like that, but I get the feeling it may have been.

I own the storyboard for that episode, and several scenes that require more complex animation never made it to the final episode. Vegeta was actually supposed to do real training rather than just stand on two cliffs, for example.

It could be for episode length reasons, or it could be that they simply didn't want to try and tackle them in the time they had. Who knows!

[ArchedThunder]

I have a question... Is he and his team also rushed while working on episode 16?

It's impossible to really say for sure when you get one-off episodes like that, but I get the feeling it may have been.

I own the storyboard for that episode, and several scenes that require more complex animation never made it to the final episode. Vegeta was actually supposed to do real training rather than just stand on two cliffs, for example.

It could be for episode length reasons, or it could be that they simply didn't want to try and tackle them in the time they had. Who knows!

I'd love to see that storyboard.

[Lord Beerus]

I have a question... Is he and his team also rushed while working on episode 16?

It's impossible to really say for sure when you get one-off episodes like that, but I get the feeling it may have been.

I own the storyboard for that episode, and several scenes that require more complex animation never made it to the final episode. Vegeta was actually supposed to do real training rather than just stand on two cliffs, for example.

It could be for episode length reasons, or it could be that they simply didn't want to try and tackle them in the time they had. Who knows!

I'd love to see that storyboard.

I'd love to know how Ajay got his hands on it.

[Ajay]

I'd love to see that storyboard.

I can't post it all since it's a million pages long and I'm lazy, but here's one of cut scenes that I was talking about, alongside the build-up that's in the actual episode:

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[emperior]

That's awesome - how the hell did you get that?

[Sodhi]

Iseki seems to like dragon ball. He posted this a while back. So I guess when he got the chance, he worked on an episode.
http://imgur.com/tb2zEqv

[ArchedThunder]

Iseki seems to like dragon ball. He posted this a while back. So I guess when he got the chance, he worked on an episode.
http://imgur.com/tb2zEqv

And then probably ran for the hills after he finished because of the time he was given for his episode

[Lord Beerus]

Iseki seems to like dragon ball. He posted this a while back. So I guess when he got the chance, he worked on an episode.
http://imgur.com/tb2zEqv

And then probably ran for the hills after he finished because of the time he was given for his episode

Every time he sees the Dragon Ball Super logo, he gets horrible flashbacks to the terrible schedule he had to cope with. 5 weeks... The horror... The horror...

[JazzMazz]

On a side note, does anyone have any idea who did this work from #49.
I know a lot of it is weirdly drawn due to everything being extremely angular(espicially Trunks), but I really enjoyed a lot of the personality that was given to the movement in this fight scene, even if it was a little choppy and had very simple timing.
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^Really enjoyed Trunks' characters acting here, even though it was simple.

^Really liked the timing, storyboarding and effects animation here as well.[/spoiler]

That was Kenji Kuroyanagi. Usually associated with One Piece and PreCure, but he's now on Tiger Mask W.

I hope Kenji returns to the series to do a cut sometime(hopefully something a little more worthwhile). His stuff is really good, I like how he emphasizes impact in his action cuts.
His Noteable work from Tiger Mask
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[ArchedThunder]

There are a lot of people who have worked on Dragon Ball that I hope return when they finish their work on Tiger Mask and Digimon Appli Monsters. Though we have been seeing a small amount of staff from those shows on Super recently, so maybe we'll see some of the great animators on those shows work across Super and the other show they're on in the next arc.

[JazzMazz]

I really hope that a lot of animators at least come on to do a solid cut or two (eg. Ryo Oonishi, Ken Otsuka, Naotoshi Shida, Kenji Kuroyanagi ect). That seems more realistic to me than having them consistently working on the series.

[ArchedThunder]

I really hope that a lot of animators at least come on to do a solid cut or two (eg. Ryo Oonishi, Ken Otsuka, Naotoshi Shida, Kenji Kuroyanagi ect). That seems more realistic to me than having them consistently working on the series.

I mean that's basically what they're doing with Otsuka and Shida (unless they are going to work on the next arc consistently) so that'd be fine. If they could get a nice handful of great animators to work on an episode every 8-12-ish weeks that'd be amazing, then they could space those people out so we could have 4 or 5 solid weeks of great action when we need it instead of having to sacrifice a few episodes like we saw in the final part of the Trunks arc. If there was another great animator that could have done the cut Tate did in 63 then 65 probably would have been much higher quality for example.
Ryo Onishi, Kenji Kuroyanagi, Yuki Hayashi, Koudai Watanabe, and Yuya Takahashi are all people they should heavily pursue. Hopefully the 10 weeks between arcs helps the schedule, because that would help so damn much in getting good animators on board. Either way I have a good feeling about the next arc, I don't think it's going to suddenly become the sakuga filled show Dragon Ball honestly deserves to be, but I do think/hope things are going to improve over the previous arc and bring us to a more consistent quality, for example I think/hope we'll have more episodes of the quality of 54 and 59, and fewer of the quality of 64 and 67.
Man, we're so close to the next arc! The wait is killing me, I want to know what's going on with the staff and such so baaaaad.
As a side-note I'm happy that Tomioka hasn't popped up in the filler at all, that's a very good sign, assuming he hasn't left the series...

[JazzMazz]

I really hope that a lot of animators at least come on to do a solid cut or two (eg. Ryo Oonishi, Ken Otsuka, Naotoshi Shida, Kenji Kuroyanagi ect). That seems more realistic to me than having them consistently working on the series.

I mean that's basically what they're doing with Otsuka and Shida (unless they are going to work on the next arc consistently) so that'd be fine. If they could get a nice handful of great animators to work on an episode every 8-12-ish weeks that'd be amazing, then they could space those people out so we could have 4 or 5 solid weeks of great action when we need it instead of having to sacrifice a few episodes like we saw in the final part of the Trunks arc. If there was another great animator that could have done the cut Tate did in 63 then 65 probably would have been much higher quality for example.
Ryo Onishi, Kenji Kuroyanagi, Yuki Hayashi, Koudai Watanabe, and Yuya Takahashi are all people they should heavily pursue. Hopefully the 10 weeks between arcs helps the schedule, because that would help so damn much in getting good animators on board. Either way I have a good feeling about the next arc, I don't think it's going to suddenly become the sakuga filled show Dragon Ball honestly deserves to be, but I do think/hope things are going to improve over the previous arc and bring us to a more consistent quality, for example I think/hope we'll have more episodes of the quality of 54 and 59, and fewer of the quality of 64 and 67.
Man, we're so close to the next arc! The wait is killing me, I want to know what's going on with the staff and such so baaaaad.
As a side-note I'm happy that Tomioka hasn't popped up in the filler at all, that's a very good sign, assuming he hasn't left the series...

I really hope that this filler really does improve the general polish of the episodes. However, I think some animators may be tied up with other shows like Tiger Mask to give Super an opportunity, I want to believe though that at least one of the animators you mentioned will have time for a noteable cut or two. My expectations for the next arc is for every major important fight episode, to have at least one noteworthy cut in it. It's a pretty high bar and I don't expect it to be met, but I would like to be optomistic about this sort of thing and I hope they can somewhat deliver.