"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[GodKaio-Ken]

I'm pretty sure this was proven fake by Herms.

Aw, but I was in love!

It's hard to describe how 'cunt' is worse than calling a female a bitch. All I can say is that males that used that word are looked down upon, see Abridge's take on Vegeta vs. 18 when he actually called 18 a cunt and everyone is left speechless when Vegeta said some very sexist stuff before that moment that didn't get any real notice.

Maybe it differs from location, I live in the neck end of the UK where 'Daft Cunt' is a casual term. Worst thing you could call someone around here is a Cock Goblin, Mong or a Nonce.

I had a feeling you might be from the UK. I heard it’s just a general curse word there but in the US it’s considered extremely offensive. Well that is why language is interesting.

I'm from the US and don't consider it an offensive word. It's basically used in place of asshole.

[Kinokima]

Aw, but I was in love!


Maybe it differs from location, I live in the neck end of the UK where 'Daft Cunt' is a casual term. Worst thing you could call someone around here is a Cock Goblin, Mong or a Nonce.

I had a feeling you might be from the UK. I heard it’s just a general curse word there but in the US it’s considered extremely offensive. Well that is why language is interesting.

I'm from the US and don't consider it an offensive word. It's basically used in place of asshole.

Well I am a woman from the US and it is offensive to me. It doesn't matter what it is used in place of it is an extremely rude word to refer to a woman that has misogynist undertones. Again why are we calling characters curse words? I don't get why that is even necessary. I wouldn't be calling a male character that other word either.

[Michsi]

Maybe so. If people are looking for complexity then that's one thing. But as you said, the way it ended up being written does show the Talent of Cauli and the attachment of Kale. It does it's job on introducing these characters and who they are in a way everyone understands. If people don't like that then, that's all well and good, but I suppose my main issue is with those who take that and pretend like it makes them the worst thing ever to ever happen, and that's the part I find ridiculous.

Especially Kale, because it feels like this fanbase has been so trained to hate Broly that anything resembling him triggers some meme-ish, caveman like impulse like with what happened to episode 100. Not one of the greatest episodes by any stretch of the imagination, but a perfectly fine episode that had a really good animated sequence of Goku vs kale, and showed off Jiren with it's only real blemish is having Kale tank the kamehamea for the sole purpose of a Broly homage. But the only thing I ever hear people say about 100 basically condenses down to "Me no like Broly. Kale look like broly, so episode bad."

Maybe I sounds a little bit ridiculous now and I'm just generalizing , but this has become more recent with recent episodes featuring Kale and I see a lot more of "uh oh, are we about to have a repeat of the horrible no good very bad episode that is 100?

Whateves though, at this point I'm just venting about a relatively small issue involving a character I only like ok that may have gone way beyond our initial discussion. So I'll stop rambling like a mad man.
Apologies for going off the rails.

No problem, I enjoy talking about the writing aspect of the story and character concepts
I often find myself wondering what I would've done differently.
For now, I'm really curious how the manga will introduce these two.

[Kanassa]

Again why are we calling characters curse words? I don't get why that is even necessary. I wouldn't be calling a male character that other word either.

Because swear words are the most easy, simple and satisfying way to display your dislike of something.

[Kinokima]

Again why are we calling characters curse words? I don't get why that is even necessary. I wouldn't be calling a male character that other word either.

Because swear words are the most easy, simple and satisfying way to display your dislike of something.

Seems like a pretty negative and lazy way to show your dislike of something. Again it's about character bashing not constructive criticism. I have no issues with critical analysis. But bashing and cursing characters is useless and will naturally upset fans of these characters. But now we are going around in circles.

[kinisking]

I like how this arc is giving emphasis to the fact the better fighter isn't necessarily the strongest one. Quitela is physically stronger than Beerus, and Jiren is stronger than Beerus and Vermoud, yet I believe Beerus and Vermoud could win a 1v1 fight vs Jiren thanks to their techniques. In the manga Toppo specifically states Jiren is superior to Vermoud only in power level.

What? I thought he said the opposite and said combat skill.

[Lord Beerus]

I like how this arc is giving emphasis to the fact the better fighter isn't necessarily the strongest one. Quitela is physically stronger than Beerus, and Jiren is stronger than Beerus and Vermoud, yet I believe Beerus and Vermoud could win a 1v1 fight vs Jiren thanks to their techniques. In the manga Toppo specifically states Jiren is superior to Vermoud only in power level.

What? I thought he said the opposite and said combat skill.

Yes. Toppo states that, based on combat skill alone, Jiren is stronger than Belmod.

[Simere]

I like how this arc is giving emphasis to the fact the better fighter isn't necessarily the strongest one. Quitela is physically stronger than Beerus, and Jiren is stronger than Beerus and Vermoud, yet I believe Beerus and Vermoud could win a 1v1 fight vs Jiren thanks to their techniques. In the manga Toppo specifically states Jiren is superior to Vermoud only in power level.

What? I thought he said the opposite and said combat skill.

Yes. Toppo states that, based on combat skill alone, Jiren is stronger than Belmod.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/920703851916705792

[Alruneia]

I do not know if it's true (and not even if this is the right discussion to post this), but I read somewhere that the release of the DBS opening 2 CD would be on October 25th.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
And that CD would have a DVD bonus, which is the second opening but in the "Vegeta version".
This is true?

Yes it’s true and I already preordered it from Amazon JP

Whoa whoa whoa hang on a second
Limit Break x Survivor, Vegeta version? What could that mean?
There's three things I can think of.
1. Ryo Horikawa is gonna sing it similar to how Daisuke Ono (Jotaro) sang Stand Proud ( )
2. It's a remixed version of the song that may have altered lyrics, mostly just for the sake of it
3. The previous option again except it's intended as an insert song for a big Vegeta moment
I know which one I'm hoping for. 1, of course!

[GodKaio-Ken]

I had a feeling you might be from the UK. I heard it’s just a general curse word there but in the US it’s considered extremely offensive. Well that is why language is interesting.

I'm from the US and don't consider it an offensive word. It's basically used in place of asshole.

Well I am a woman from the US and it is offensive to me. It doesn't matter what it is used in place of it is an extremely rude word to refer to a woman that has misogynist undertones. Again why are we calling characters curse words? I don't get why that is even necessary. I wouldn't be calling a male character that other word either.

Well any word directly used at a person to disparage them is disrespectful in a sense. I guess it depends where you're from as well, South Florida is like a curse in evtry sentence but usually not directed at someone in a way to bring them down.

I agree we don't need to call fictional characters names though...it sort of silly.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Caulifla is the best new character this arc. <3.

Now Ultra Instinct is a thing, hopefully they can start giving SSGSS to other Saiyans obviously not now but down the line, Caulifla in SSGSS would be sooo cool. (But mostly to get rid of the disgusting yellow SS forms.).

[Lord Beerus]

What? I thought he said the opposite and said combat skill.

Yes. Toppo states that, based on combat skill alone, Jiren is stronger than Belmod.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/920703851916705792

Hmm. Interesting. So what was this about from Viz?:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Kinokima]

I do not know if it's true (and not even if this is the right discussion to post this), but I read somewhere that the release of the DBS opening 2 CD would be on October 25th.
[spoiler][/spoiler]
And that CD would have a DVD bonus, which is the second opening but in the "Vegeta version".
This is true?

Yes it’s true and I already preordered it from Amazon JP

Whoa whoa whoa hang on a second
Limit Break x Survivor, Vegeta version? What could that mean?
There's three things I can think of.
1. Ryo Horikawa is gonna sing it similar to how Daisuke Ono (Jotaro) sang Stand Proud ( )
2. It's a remixed version of the song that may have altered lyrics, mostly just for the sake of it
3. The previous option again except it's intended as an insert song for a big Vegeta moment
I know which one I'm hoping for. 1, of course!

It’s on the DVD not the CD that makes me assume it’s new animation of the opening focused more on Vegeta not a new version of the song. But it could very well be a parody version or a version that Ryo sings. I guess we should find out soon.

[Kanassa]

Yes it’s true and I already preordered it from Amazon JP

Whoa whoa whoa hang on a second
Limit Break x Survivor, Vegeta version? What could that mean?
There's three things I can think of.
1. Ryo Horikawa is gonna sing it similar to how Daisuke Ono (Jotaro) sang Stand Proud ( )
2. It's a remixed version of the song that may have altered lyrics, mostly just for the sake of it
3. The previous option again except it's intended as an insert song for a big Vegeta moment
I know which one I'm hoping for. 1, of course!

It’s on the DVD not the CD that makes me assume it’s new animation of the opening focused more on Vegeta not a new version of the song. But it could very well be a parody version or a version that Ryo sings. I guess we should find out soon.

What DvD are we talking about here?

[Kinokima]

Whoa whoa whoa hang on a second
Limit Break x Survivor, Vegeta version? What could that mean?
There's three things I can think of.
1. Ryo Horikawa is gonna sing it similar to how Daisuke Ono (Jotaro) sang Stand Proud ( )
2. It's a remixed version of the song that may have altered lyrics, mostly just for the sake of it
3. The previous option again except it's intended as an insert song for a big Vegeta moment
I know which one I'm hoping for. 1, of course!

It’s on the DVD not the CD that makes me assume it’s new animation of the opening focused more on Vegeta not a new version of the song. But it could very well be a parody version or a version that Ryo sings. I guess we should find out soon.

What DvD are we talking about here?

The DVD that comes with the Limit Breaker Single CD

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E9%99%90%E7%9 ... B075SPNTHS

[Kanassa]

It’s on the DVD not the CD that makes me assume it’s new animation of the opening focused more on Vegeta not a new version of the song. But it could very well be a parody version or a version that Ryo sings. I guess we should find out soon.

What DvD are we talking about here?

The DVD that comes with the Limit Breaker Single CD

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E9%99%90%E7%9 ... B075SPNTHS

Forgive me if this sounds dumb, but... What is the DvD for? I'm assuming it's not Super Episodes. Or is it just for the song? I don't know how music releases work.

[Kinokima]

What DvD are we talking about here?

The DVD that comes with the Limit Breaker Single CD

https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E9%99%90%E7%9 ... B075SPNTHS

Forgive me if this sounds dumb, but... What is the DvD for? I'm assuming it's not Super Episodes. Or is it just for the song? I don't know how music releases work.

Your guess is as good as mine but I assume it contains the creditless opening.

[BlueBasilisk]

Forgive me if this sounds dumb, but... What is the DvD for? I'm assuming it's not Super Episodes. Or is it just for the song? I don't know how music releases work.

Seems to be a non-telop version of the opening.

[Kinokima]

I also notice that now on Amazon it no longer says Vegeta Version on the page. Well that is disappointing if that was a mistake because that is why I originally preordered it.

This was the originally Japanese that I no longer see on Amazon

ドラゴンボール超(スーパー)ノンテロップ・オープニング映像(ベジータ編)


Well hopefully the original opening and this mysterious Vegeta version will both be included.

[Noah]

Caulifla is the best new character this arc. <3.

Now Ultra Instinct is a thing, hopefully they can start giving SSGSS to other Saiyans obviously not now but down the line, Caulifla in SSGSS would be sooo cool. (But mostly to get rid of the disgusting yellow SS forms.).

Sorry, mate, but I had to report you. I couldn't stand you wanting this series to perish