"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Big Black Sayian]

Each episode is like a minute . A fusion can last like 5 episodes at minimum.

[RedHeat]

Pretty interesting developments. Why are people outraged yet again? I haven't read all of the latest news yet.

[MaskedRider]

Honestly if they fuse into the super saiyan three state then that would be interesting and I wouldn't mind them achieving that transformation through that for now until later down the road but I wouldn't like Caulifla / Kale turning SSJ3 on her own now because it just feels too quick. I don't mind Caulifla but she just feels like a relationship that is on a never ending honey moon phase. I always liked Kale, I always thought her type of character suffered from the pacing because her inferiority complex linked with a transformation such as hers is genius.

[Simere]

I don't mind Caulifla but she just feels like a relationship that is on a never ending honey moon phase.

Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

[MaskedRider]

I don't mind Caulifla but she just feels like a relationship that is on a never ending honey moon phase.

Isn't that supposed to be a good thing?

Maybe. From my experiences its better to let that settle down once the first month or two goes by and see how the two of you actually are with each other and if you really want to be with one another. Caulifla for me, I do like her but its like once the phase is almost over and I start to feel "eh" toward her it starts again and I think of something where I'm like, "Shes not bad".

[RedHeat]

Wait, the spoilers imply the fusion will get SSJ3. Ya know, like Gotenks?

[Big Black Sayian]

Wait, the spoilers imply the fusion will get SSJ3. Ya know, like Gotenks?

If so I really want Gotenks and fusion to fight in the future.

[TheMikado]

Wait, the spoilers imply the fusion will get SSJ3. Ya know, like Gotenks?

I called Caulifa and Kale being the Goten and Trunks of their universe before this SSJ3 nonsense even leaked!

[TekTheNinja]

You know what, fuck it. Knock Frieza out. Kale and Caulifla are awful, but I hate Frieza being here and stealing spotlight from more deserving characters more than I hate the female saiyans doing the same, since at least the female saiyans aren't overused villains who have been brought back way too many times and have basically become a parody of himself. At least the female saiyans aren't a direct "fuck you" to Buu and his fans. At least the female saiyans don't make me hate a character I used to love, and still love outside of his appearances in Super.
...So basically, yeah. I hope Kafla knocks that fucking overhyped lizard bastard outta the ring ASAP. Woulda preferred if Cabba did it, but I honestly don't care who does it. Frieza's my most hated fight in the whole damn tournament so I just want him out. Seeing as every damn character I actually had hope to do well in this tournament has gotten fucked over or is in the process of getting fucked over, maybe I could at least get SOME enjoyment out of this arc from seeing a character who's pissing me off get fucked over.

Ugh. dunno where that tangent came from, but I guess I'm just in a bad mood and felt like ranting about how Super always does the opposite of what I hope will happen. With that said, I expect Frieza to rack up a high KO streak in the near future, luckily for those who are enjoying him, and unluckily for me... again.

Toriyama just don't care for buu and probaly find him uninteresting in his Pov,how is freeza stealing spotlight we haven't seen the conclusion of #17,#18,gohan and piccolo and roshi is been handled pretty well

So caulifla is getting ss3 and a fusion,i think this smell failure for their fusion

Most of what you've said is true. I was mostly just venting my frustrations. I do find Frieza to be a spotlight hog though, in that I'd much rather the characters who've been getting shafted for all of Super getting some spotlight instead of just more Frieza nonsense. I also hate Frieza knocking out the only good universe 6 saiyan, who was another character I actually hoped would do well.

[HeroR]

Wait, the spoilers imply the fusion will get SSJ3. Ya know, like Gotenks?

It depends how you read it.

Grasping at straws that aren't really there.

Goku got hit by worse, and was "ok" (as ok as being beaten up by Jiren could be). Kale got hit by one ki blast.

Besides, by Jiren's own words, he only considers Hit and Goku worth fighting. Kale isn't near Goku's level.

No more gasping than Goku held back so much power he just allowed Kale to walked through his Kamehameha.

Kale had to be something since he even bothered to take out Kale when before he was more than willing to let Goku and Hit team up and ring out one of his teammates.

Oh I dont know, maybe because like I said he's preserving his stamina for an actual threat, like say, Jiren? anyways dont ask me, ask Goku, he literally said "I'm gonna raise my ki up a little now" they made a point to have him say "a little" anyways if you dont like that as well then "because Kale was nothing more than an out of control little girl who he needed to be careful with or else he could accidentally kill her as she was pushing herself too much" still no? then I dont think anything I say will actually matter to you.
I gave a good enough answer and you came back with "its a lousy answer" ok then

You're not answering the question. Why would Goku 'preserved stamina' to the point of letting Kale walked through his freaking attack and grabbed him? You're telling me that Goku couldn't raised his power to the point of at least pushing Kale back? This makes no sense other than trying to downplay Kale into the dirt.

An "because Kale was nothing more than an out of control little girl who he needed to be careful with or else he could accidentally kill her as she was pushing herself too much", who grabbed him and used Goku as a club. Plus, Goku doesn't think like this.

Anger was the only reason Goku did it the first time on namek, thats what made the seen iconic and before you even think to say Vegeta, trunks, goten or gohan did it offscreen. We have no idea how they did it either plus super constantly uses throwbacks to anime filler from z so yes people can say that vegeta, gohan and future trunks earned it through anger as well. Only the 2 brats are vague but that was a joke pointed out by the entire cast.


Not to mention when Vegeta taught Cabba, he told him to never forget the RAGE.


The super saiyan forms are all tied to rage, thats why Gohan couldn't go fullpower on Cell like he wanted to, now you could see that U6 saiyans have different biology, when. was. that. stated.

Goku's first time on Namek doesn't matter since he was the first Super Saiyan in thousand years. He had no idea what was happening. We know Goten didn't used anger because he couldn't even remember the moment. Even in the anime filler, Goten didn't transform from anger.

Cabba said rage was necessary, Cali proved that it wasn't. It wouldn't be the first time in life that people thought something only worked one way only to be proven wrong.

[Alruneia]

I have to agree with the notion that this is a lot of focus given to Caulifla and Kale. Three episodes in a row? Ain't that a bit much? It makes me think that this will be their last "big showing" in the tournament. There's nowhere to go after an SS3 fusion other than down or divine. (Or Kale gets something more afterwards for whatever reason.)
Also, I gotta admit I'm a little worried about how they'll handle Kafla and Frieza. I've wanted Frieza to have fun with the U6 saiyans for a while now (because of Supremely smug lizardman, not because of character hatred), and it'd kinda kill my enjoyment to see him struggling against her. It's even worse if they don't interact at all, though.

[sintzu]

[YonedgeHP]

Before people outrage, that image does NOT says that Caulifla will get SS3.

[sintzu]

Wait, the spoilers imply the fusion will get SSJ3. Ya know, like Gotenks?

The difference is that Gotenks had to actually train before he got as strong as he did, same thing for Goten and Trunks. These Saiyan girls got these powers because they wanted to.

In terms of the actual news, I guess the fusion getting it is better than them but chances are they'll get it eventually. I really hope the manga can find a way to make sense of all this.

Before people outrage, that image does NOT says that Caulifla will get SS3.

I have no idea what's on it but it's new.

[YonedgeHP]

Wait, the spoilers imply the fusion will get SSJ3. Ya know, like Gotenks?

The difference is that Gotenks had to actually train before he got as strong as he did, same thing for Goten and Trunks. These Saiyan girls got these powers because they wanted to.

In terms of the actual news, I guess the fusion getting it is better than them but chances are they'll get it eventually. I really hope the manga can find a way to make sense of all this.

Before people outrage, that image does NOT says that Caulifla will get SS3.

I have no idea what's on it but it's new.

Caulifla: Let's aim for SS3, Kale!
Kale: Yes, let's fight together, sis!

[Simere]

I have no idea what's on it but it's new.

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/923800745958191104

[RedHeat]

Wait, the spoilers imply the fusion will get SSJ3. Ya know, like Gotenks?

The difference is that Gotenks had to actually train before he got as strong as he did, same thing for Goten and Trunks. These Saiyan girls got these powers because they wanted to.

In terms of the actual news, I guess the fusion getting it is better than them but chances are they'll get it eventually. I really hope the manga can find a way to make sense of all this.

Before people outrage, that image does NOT says that Caulifla will get SS3.

I have no idea what's on it but it's new.

I'm pretty sure Goten and Trunks got SSJ3 on a whim when they fused and are incapable of doing it each individually, and has a high chance of being the same case with Kale Caulifla. Except they're far stronger nonetheless, so it's not illogical for them to do it just as easily.

[sintzu]

I'm pretty sure Goten and Trunks got SSJ3 on a whim when they fused and are incapable of doing it each individually, and has a high chance of being the same case with Kale Caulifla. Except they're far stronger nonetheless, so it's not illogical for them to do it just as easily.

I know they can't but they probably will be able to in a potential Sadal arc.

[BlueBasilisk]

You're not answering the question. Why would Goku 'preserved stamina' to the point of letting Kale walked through his freaking attack and grabbed him? You're telling me that Goku couldn't raised his power to the point of at least pushing Kale back? This makes no sense other than trying to downplay Kale into the dirt.

Plus if Goku was holding back oh so much he could have just, you know, slapped Kale's hand away so she didn't pick him up by the face. Unless blocking takes up too much stamina too?

It also gets waved off as a Broly reference but Broly was standing right in Goku's face. He's never walked through an attack:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I'm pretty sure Goten and Trunks got SSJ3 on a whim when they fused and are incapable of doing it each individually, and has a high chance of being the same case with Kale Caulifla. Except they're far stronger nonetheless, so it's not illogical for them to do it just as easily.

They did. Took them a week on their own and when Piccolo asked how they said they didn't know.

[pacz360]

You're not answering the question. Why would Goku 'preserved stamina' to the point of letting Kale walked through his freaking attack and grabbed him? You're telling me that Goku couldn't raised his power to the point of at least pushing Kale back? This makes no sense other than trying to downplay Kale into the dirt.

Plus if Goku was holding back oh so much he could have just, you know, slapped Kale's hand away so she didn't pick him up by the face. Unless blocking takes up too much stamina too?

It also gets waved off as a Broly reference but Broly was standing right in Goku's face. He's never walked through an attack:
[spoiler][/spoiler]

I'm pretty sure Goten and Trunks got SSJ3 on a whim when they fused and are incapable of doing it each individually, and has a high chance of being the same case with Kale Caulifla. Except they're far stronger nonetheless, so it's not illogical for them to do it just as easily.

They did. Took them a week on their own and when Piccolo asked how they said they didn't know.

I mean kale is blue tier she just not high as people believe