Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:DemonRin wrote:WHY do people care about little Boy Penis?!?!?! WHY?!?!
Why are you so eager to get rid of boy penis? Or rather, why are you so eager to fanatically defend all things Kai?
Because some of us are reasonable, and realize that Japanese TV standards have CHANGED! Baby Penis and Gaping holes obviously DON'T FLY anymore!!
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:I mean, I seriously didn't know that Little Boybits were that Special something that made Dragon Ball Great, That's good to know.
Hair doesn't make Dragonball great. Shave everybody's heads. It would be pointless, of course, just like this censorship.
It's little Boy Penis.
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:And don't compare Toei to 4kids... PLEASE don't...
Don't worry. I'll compare it to Saban. Far more reasonable, considering Toei seems to have borrowed some of the Saban edits wholesale right from the first US airing.
Toei: Bare minimum of Edits to get it on Japanese TV, Raditz still had a mouth full of Blood, Everone's names are correct
*Incomplete Lists made purposely to Make Kai look worse go Here*
yeah, those lists were TERRIBLE!! you Purposefully left things out of The Saban side to make it look better. Here's a more accurate List:
Saban:
-Several names were changed or Altered. The Son family lose their Surname, Roshi is only ever referred to as Roshi, the "Kamesen'nin" name is omitted entirely. Tenshinhan's name is changed to Ti-en (Later Retconed to "Ti-en Shinhan") Makankosappou mistranslated as "Special Beam Cannon". Karin changed to Ko-rin.
-Changed the original music
to a bland synthesizer soundtrack
-Edited Gohan's tears.
-Completely Removed ALL instances of blood.
-Completely Removed Any mention of Death, Characters "went to the next Dimension"
-Removed the gaping hole
-Covered up Goku and Gohan penis
-Censored Gyumao's cig
-Removed original story material, It was mostly filler however.
-New Opening/Ending Theme "Rock The Dragon"
-HFIL
-Horrible Script Edits that make no sense, such as "Your Father was a BRILLIANT SCIENTIST"
-The Edits that were Present were usually sloppily done. Bushes meant to cover nude Gohan would move constantly, etc.
-Uncut DVD never offered under Saban/Pioneer's tenure with the rights.
Toei:
-All names are correct
-Changed original music
to an orchestral Score
-Fully Stereo Audio Mix for the first time Ever
-Edited Gohan's tears
-Removed the gaping hole
-Edited Blood, but only the blood that directly relates to the Gaping Hole. So far, the rest of the Major Blood is present.
-Covered up Goku and Gohan penis.
-Censored Gyumao's cig
-Removed original story material,
however it's mostly Filler, and this version of the show was advertised as having this done to it.
-Pretty colors
-New theme songs
-Advertising the series under a New name to distance it from the Original.
-Released the Entire Original Z series on DVD entirely uncut before beginning Kai.
MUCH more Accurate List. The things I changed are Bolded.
There is NO WAY Toei is as bad as Saban, absolutely no way possible.
Super Ghost Kamikaze wrote:It's a good thing, then, that we're talking about Saban and not 4kids. And when we use the appropriate analogy, we come up with eerie similarities. It's a matter of degree, nothing more, and that degree is getting smaller and smaller per episode.
The post directly Above mine compared Toei to 4kids, that's who I was talking to. Don't call me out on things I had good reason to say.
Also, I just saw a Video that was making some OK points until I heard them say "That Looks like a Budokai Cutscene!" and I was like "Whoa Whoa Whoa HOLD ON!! There are OBVIOUSLY Black outlines there, It's not 3D by a longshot, how the HELL does that look like a Budokai Cutscene?!" You can not like it, but that's just ridiculous. And they end the video saying "If you could Tell Toei something about Kai, what would you say?" and It's pretty much "DONT CENSOR ANYTHING!!" I'm just sitting here thinking that Toei would then respond "Well, Ok then, Dragon Ball Kai is off the air. Sorry, Fuji says if we leave gaping holes and Boy Penis in, we can't show it, so yeah, 5 Episodes was a pretty good Run!! Off the Air now Guys"
It's like, when people go on their Anti-Censorship rants about Kai, NOBODY is willing to concede that the Edits were probably NECESSARY TO GET THE SHOW ON TV!!
People just LOVE to forget that Japan's Standards have changed.
And honestly people, so far we've gotten Violence censorship on ONE PARTICULAR INJURY! The Blood in Raditz' mouth shows this. It's not Blood or Gore that's bad, it's BIG GAPING HOLE!! Wait till we get more. If they start cutting huge amounts of blood from the fight with Nappa and Vegeta, then OK I'll concede, but people need to take a step back and realize that statistically, one time doesn't make a trend.
"FUNi should take [DBZ] out behind the woodshed, give it one last treat, then blow its f%#@$ng brains out before it attacks the baby again." ~Rocketman