Goku's Japanese voice, anyone else not like it at all?

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:47 pm

Adamant wrote:Sure it should. Turn on the Japanese track on your DVDs and listen to Goku's name being pronounced. There's no w-sound between the o and k there. There's a very very clear one in the dub.

uuuuh... No...

His name should be pronounced "Goh-Koo" like "Go" as in "I'm GOing to the store" and Ku as in... well, like the coo in the word "Cool".

The Dub pronounced his name right... which is one of the only Japanese words they got right...
Gaw-kew is just... wrong...

DB_Fan1991 · Post by **DB_Fan1991** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:12 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
DB_Fan1991 wrote:Here's my opinion on Masako Nozawa as Son Goku:

Her approach to Goku is well...different. She screams great and all, but to me she's not Goku. I know I might get flamed, but I actually think that Sean Schemmel is a better Goku. Now I'm not saying she's the worst Goku ever as that is not the case that "honor" goes to whoever voiced him in the "Big Green" dub. Bottom line is Nozawa isn't bad as Goku just different.
In polite disagreement, considering her status as being the first Son Gokû should not it be the others considered 'different' or even the use of the phraseology of 'Nozawa being different from what we are use to'? In all fairness, of course...

The only reason I said different was because I listened to Sean Schemmel first.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:45 pm

DB_Fan1991 wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:
DB_Fan1991 wrote:Here's my opinion on Masako Nozawa as Son Goku:

Her approach to Goku is well...different. She screams great and all, but to me she's not Goku. I know I might get flamed, but I actually think that Sean Schemmel is a better Goku. Now I'm not saying she's the worst Goku ever as that is not the case that "honor" goes to whoever voiced him in the "Big Green" dub. Bottom line is Nozawa isn't bad as Goku just different.
In polite disagreement, considering her status as being the first Son Gokû should not it be the others considered 'different' or even the use of the phraseology of 'Nozawa being different from what we are use to'? In all fairness, of course...
The only reason I said different was because I listened to Sean Schemmel first.

I got started on the dub, too, just so you don't think I'm coming from some completely different direction from you.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 10:48 pm

I do like Mosaka Nozawa and have adjusted well to the voice, but I still don't think it's completely right for Goku.

Majin Buu · Post by **Majin Buu** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:06 am

I agree with SSJ Rambo. I've listened to Nozawa for so long that I can't see how people say her Goku sounds like a girl. Picture an actual girl speaking in Goku's voice and it just doesn't fit. The fact that she can alter her voice enough so that it doesn't come off as particularly feminine despite being a woman herself is just a testament to how talented Nozawa is.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:07 am

I like her a lot EXCEPT whenever Goku says "Oh." Because she really drags it out. "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh." I could go make a sandwich and feed the cat and she'd still be doing it. Otherwise, excellent.

Goku's best English voice? MasakoX, hands down.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:26 am

DemonRin wrote: Gaw-kew is just... wrong...

Yeah, I know, that was me trying to explain the correct pronounciation using this silly "Phonetical English" system.

DemonRin wrote: His name should be pronounced "Goh-Koo" like "Go" as in "I'm GOing to the store"
The Dub pronounced his name right... which is one of the only Japanese words they got right...

No.
Metalwario explained how it's mispronounced well on the last page. Read that, and ignore my attempts of making any sense of this phonetical system.

DemonRin · Post by **DemonRin** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:40 am

To be fair, it's been a LONG time since I've seen ANYTHING Dragon Ball Dubbed, maybe I'm wrong.

But the way I remember it, besides forgetting Son's Surname, the dub got his name at least close enough that it's not worth complaining about.

How they pronounce "Kaio-ken" on the other hand...

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:18 pm

Yes, english is bad for this. I mean sayin' foreign words. I'm not language expert, but english speakers have really hard times to talk hard, because english seems to me as soft language. I'm used to sayin' Goku with short o and u, not reading U as ''you'' but like ''oo'' and that's because I was born here and used to speak in Czech as my native language and I can imagine how can it be different for me, if I was born as native english speaker. I don't see some trouble in how they're saying Goku, Kame-hame-ha etc. in dub, it's dub for english, american (and all those english speaking countries) and this is the natural way how for example american will say Goku, so I think it's pointless to going deeper in the matter of pronuncation. Its the same thing how Japanese are saying lot of imported foreign words with japanese pronunciation and even same here in czech republic, where we have lot of foreign words from German and in digital technology and PC from english, which mutated by time or where assimilated to fit in Czech language......

So, where is the point in discussion about english pronunciation of japanese names???

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:07 pm

Is it really that big of a deal?

B · Post by B » Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:56 pm

There's a slight difference in emphasis, but the pronunciation isn't wrong, as far as I'm concerned.

Terra-jin · Post by **Terra-jin** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:30 pm

Let me put it this way: if there were a voice actor who could portray Goku in the same innocent and child-like way as Nozawa, but with a manlier voice: I'd prefer him. Nozawa sounds good, professional and believable, and gets Goku's prime character traits right, but I would've wanted Goku to sound a bit more like a man.

I also prefer the early Ocean dub's Goku (don't readily know which VA) to Sean Schemmel. I like late Ocean dub's Goku the least. However none of them portray Goku's innocence as well as Nozawa IMO.

gallagtor · Post by **gallagtor** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:31 pm

DemonRin wrote:
Adamant wrote:Sure it should. Turn on the Japanese track on your DVDs and listen to Goku's name being pronounced. There's no w-sound between the o and k there. There's a very very clear one in the dub.
uuuuh... No...

His name should be pronounced "Goh-Koo" like "Go" as in "I'm GOing to the store" and Ku as in... well, like the coo in the word "Cool".

The Dub pronounced his name right... which is one of the only Japanese words they got right...
Gaw-kew is just... wrong...

I think what he means was in the dub it's pronounced GOku rather than GoKU. The emphasis is placed on the wrong syllable.

Majin Buu · Post by **Majin Buu** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:46 pm

Terra-jin wrote:but I would've wanted Goku to sound a bit more like a man.

Something came to me as I read this. People that don't like Nozawa's Goku say that Goku should sound like a man, but the thing is, Goku isn't a man, he's a child. He's only a man in terms of age, in terms of personality he's a child. People that defend Nozawa's Goku say that Goku is a child trapped in a man's body and this is what they're getting at with that statement. Can you picture what generally comes to mind when you think of a man acting the way Goku does? No. That's because Goku is a child. The only time he comes close to acting like an actual man is when he's fighting evil people (and when that happens Nozawa does change her pitch to make Goku's voice sound deeper). Considering that, a manlier voice wouldn't fit Goku because it would just seem weird coming from someone that generally acts like a child.

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:58 pm

I thought Goku's name was pronounced Goh-ku. Not like GO as in going. That's what it sounds like to me whenever I hear it on the Japanese dub. Krillin yelling after Goku's death comes to mind

B · Post by B » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:04 pm

Rod wrote:I thought Goku's name was pronounced Goh-ku. Not like GO as in going. That's what it sounds like to me whenever I hear it on the Japanese dub. Krillin yelling after Goku's death comes to mind

How is "goh" not pronounced like it is in the word "going?"

Metalwario64 · Post by **Metalwario64** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:07 pm

Majin Buu wrote:
Terra-jin wrote:but I would've wanted Goku to sound a bit more like a man.
Something came to me as I read this. People that don't like Nozawa's Goku say that Goku should sound like a man, but the thing is, Goku isn't a man, he's a child. He's only a man in terms of age, in terms of personality he's a child.

Goku is Micheal Jackson???

(R.I.P. man)

Rod · Post by **Rod** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:13 pm

B wrote:
Rod wrote:I thought Goku's name was pronounced Goh-ku. Not like GO as in going. That's what it sounds like to me whenever I hear it on the Japanese dub. Krillin yelling after Goku's death comes to mind
How is "goh" not pronounced like it is in the word "going?"

Guess I spelled it wrong

I think I meant a short O sound like in Bob, dog, fog, etc

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:31 pm

Terra-jin wrote:Let me put it this way: if there were a voice actor who could portray Goku in the same innocent and child-like way as Nozawa, but with a manlier voice: I'd prefer him. Nozawa sounds good, professional and believable, and gets Goku's prime character traits right, but I would've wanted Goku to sound a bit more like a man.

I also prefer the early Ocean dub's Goku (don't readily know which VA) to Sean Schemmel. I like late Ocean dub's Goku the least. However none of them portray Goku's innocence as well as Nozawa IMO.

I think Season Schemmel does just that (looks for the clip from the beginning of Movie

Majin Buu · Post by **Majin Buu** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:47 pm

Eh, to me Schemmel doesn't really capture the child-like aspect of Goku too well becaus His Goku just doesn't come off as child like to me. His Goku actually seems more like a typical man, or as it has been said before, superhero. I think Metalwario64 hit the nail on the head when he compared Goku to Michael Jackson. They both have the disposition and mentality of a child. I just don't get that from Schemmel's Goku.

Kanzenshuu

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