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Re: "Saiya-jin Zetsumetsu Keikaku" Remake

Post by Taku128 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:15 pm

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Taku128 wrote: They're still nowhere near the size of my 32 inch TV. Why would I want to play on anything else?
It's not the size of your Howitzer, it's how you use it.
And portable screens aren't used to do anything that a TV can't. The only exception is the DS's touchscreen controls, and touchscreen controls are never better then traditional controls except for in point and click adventures and puzzle games. I doubt this game will be either of those.
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I'm not 12. I don't go on long bus trips to school where I have nothing better to do then whip out my DS and play some Dragon Ball Z games. I have no need to play a game outside of my house for longer then five minutes. I go outside of my house to do things other then play video games. Occasionally I'll have a few minutes to kill, and in those cases playing Tetris on my cellphone is more then enough to keep me occupied, and doesn't require me to bring an extra device with me. Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
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Re: "Saiya-jin Zetsumetsu Keikaku" Remake

Post by The S » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:42 pm

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I'm not 12. I don't go on long bus trips to school where I have nothing better to do then whip out my DS and play some Dragon Ball Z games. I have no need to play a game outside of my house for longer then five minutes. I go outside of my house to do things other then play video games. Occasionally I'll have a few minutes to kill, and in those cases playing Tetris on my cellphone is more then enough to keep me occupied, and doesn't require me to bring an extra device with me. Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
What does being 12 have to do with it? There are, y'know plane rides and so forth. I could see if you don't travel, but jeez... there is a way to make your point without patronizing others.
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Re: "Saiya-jin Zetsumetsu Keikaku" Remake

Post by Xyex » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:53 pm

Taku128 wrote:And portable screens aren't used to do anything that a TV can't.
The 3DS begs to differ.
Taku128 wrote:Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
Why not?
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Re: "Saiya-jin Zetsumetsu Keikaku" Remake

Post by Taku128 » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:57 pm

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I'm not 12. I don't go on long bus trips to school where I have nothing better to do then whip out my DS and play some Dragon Ball Z games. I have no need to play a game outside of my house for longer then five minutes. I go outside of my house to do things other then play video games. Occasionally I'll have a few minutes to kill, and in those cases playing Tetris on my cellphone is more then enough to keep me occupied, and doesn't require me to bring an extra device with me. Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
What does being 12 have to do with it? There are, y'know plane rides and so forth. I could see if you don't travel, but jeez... there is a way to make your point without patronizing others.
There are occasions like plane rides where a handheld is a godsend, but those are rare occurrences. For the most part I play games in a situation where I have access to my consoles and my TV. I just honestly almost never have a situation where playing my DS or PSP is the best way to kill time. I'm not trying to patronize anyone, riding a school bus is just the first and one of the only things to come to mind when I ask myself why someone would want a game more complicated then Tetris to play outside of their home.
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Taku128 wrote:And portable screens aren't used to do anything that a TV can't.
The 3DS begs to differ.
TVs can do 3D, and I fail to see what good 3D would be in showing new 2D animation of Dragon Ball.
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Taku128 wrote:Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
Why not?
For the reasons I just said, a handheld system offers nothing superior to my TV setup.
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Post by Innagadadavida » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:59 pm

Well, this conversation has gone on long enough. Seriously who cares if one person has no reason to play a portable console? The rest of the world does, and for their own reasons. Personally, I'm thrilled to have a potentially awesome DBZ game on a portable console I plan to own.

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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:04 am

Hopefully this being brought over to a ......handheld will open the door for the idea of a console game with a completely new villian and story line.

If they made a new villian with a group of henchman; I could see that being enough to carry a new game along; possibly connected to some occurance in the DBZ world.

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Post by Xyex » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:32 am

Taku128 wrote:There are occasions like plane rides where a handheld is a godsend, but those are rare occurrences. For the most part I play games in a situation where I have access to my consoles and my TV. I just honestly almost never have a situation where playing my DS or PSP is the best way to kill time. I'm not trying to patronize anyone, riding a school bus is just the first and one of the only things to come to mind when I ask myself why someone would want a game more complicated then Tetris to play outside of their home.
I bolded part of the above for emphasis of the problem. To you: Access to a console means no reason to play a portable. This is not true for the vast majority of people. There are quite a number who would pass on playing their Wii/PS3/360 in favor of one of their portables just because.
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Taku128 wrote:Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
Why not?
For the reasons I just said, a handheld system offers nothing superior to my TV setup.
The bolded part points out the difference. Not everyone cares if it's 'superior' (nor does everyone consider console gaming to be superior to portable). There are plenty of people who enjoy handhelds for those things they do offer, and those who even enjoy them over consoles.
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:47 am

LeprikanGT wrote:Hopefully this being brought over to a ......handheld will open the door for the idea of a console game with a completely new villian and story line.

If they made a new villian with a group of henchman; I could see that being enough to carry a new game along; possibly connected to some occurance in the DBZ world.

I'd like that very much. :3


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Post by SonEric84 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:00 am

I'm a huge DS fan, but I have to say I think Nintendo is really getting out of hand with all the different variations of this system. 3DS just sounds like another stupid way to make a buck. Who cares about lame 3-D effects? If they don't release this for DS I probably won't have the chance to play it. I just can't afford all these damn systems.
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:03 am

This is why I don't buy new hardware until the new software is no longer compatible with it. I haven't bought a new DS in almost 5 years because all the new games that come out still work on it. The Lite and the XL are newer models, but the engine on them and the original fat DS is basically the same.


It doesn't look so for the 3DS though; I'll probably have to buy one of those.

I don't really care about 3-D effects either. To be honest I'm getting tired of the 3-D gimmick with TVs and movies. I'm grateful there's an option to shut off the 3-D on the 3DS.
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Post by Big Momma » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:09 am

Taku128 wrote: I'm not 12. I don't go on long bus trips to school where I have nothing better to do then whip out my DS and play some Dragon Ball Z games. I have no need to play a game outside of my house for longer then five minutes. I go outside of my house to do things other then play video games. Occasionally I'll have a few minutes to kill, and in those cases playing Tetris on my cellphone is more then enough to keep me occupied, and doesn't require me to bring an extra device with me. Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
12? Really? I'm sorry I'm not spending all my time out of the house at my big corporate job, sucking down a decaf working out this months figures.

One good thing about portability is that you get to spend time outside. Sometimes when I'm sitting at home, I don't feel like going anywhere, but it's still a super nice day outside. It's times like this when it's nice to have a PSP/DS. Then, I can just sit out in my backyward, enjoying the bright sunlight while I whomp on some heartless, or shove a rasengan down Sasuke's stupid, ugly, smug, arrogant, good-for-nothing, retarded face.

There's nothing immature about owning a handheld. Heck, I think it even sends the opposite message. "Hey, I'm much too busy (AKA, I have a life) to sit at home on my TV and play video games, but I still enjoy to play them and don't care who sees. So I got myself a PSP/DS that I can play when I'm out!"
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Post by SonEric84 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 2:11 am

Chuquita wrote:This is why I don't buy new hardware until the new software is no longer compatible with it. I haven't bought a new DS in almost 5 years because all the new games that come out still work on it. The Lite and the XL are newer models, but the engine on them and the original fat DS is basically the same.


It doesn't look so for the 3DS though; I'll probably have to buy one of those.

I don't really care about 3-D effects either. To be honest I'm getting tired of the 3-D gimmick with TVs and movies. I'm grateful there's an option to shut off the 3-D on the 3DS.

That's how I feel about it, although I have a DS Lite because I bought the system later in its life. I only got my DS about 2 and a half years ago so I'm really not ready to replace it with something else just yet, especially for one game and effects that I have no desire to "experience". That's good to hear that the 3-D is optional though, makes me feel a little better about possibly getting one in the future. The whole 3-D tv and movies thing doesn't interest me at all either, I enjoy my media the old-fashioned way. :P
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Post by DNA » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:53 am

Taku128 wrote:
DNA wrote:Portability.
I'm not 12. I don't go on long bus trips to school where I have nothing better to do then whip out my DS and play some Dragon Ball Z games. I have no need to play a game outside of my house for longer then five minutes. I go outside of my house to do things other then play video games. Occasionally I'll have a few minutes to kill, and in those cases playing Tetris on my cellphone is more then enough to keep me occupied, and doesn't require me to bring an extra device with me. Any time I'm playing a handheld game it's at home, so why am I not playing it on my bigger TV on a more powerful console?
I take offence to that skipper. The DS is the console I play the most, I've got plane trips home, extremely boring train trips to work, I even play at work on my breaks when I don't have anything to do or anyone to talk to. Maybe you should think twice before you start shooting the "age" guns. Different people have different lives. In my case I've got lots of breaks of boredom during the day, it's at home that I've got more to do than play games, I play games on a console about once a week or so. The whole point of handheld consoles is to be portable, for you to play outside, when you've got nothing else to do.

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Post by Xyex » Tue Jun 22, 2010 5:56 am

SonEric84 wrote:I'm a huge DS fan, but I have to say I think Nintendo is really getting out of hand with all the different variations of this system. 3DS just sounds like another stupid way to make a buck. Who cares about lame 3-D effects? If they don't release this for DS I probably won't have the chance to play it. I just can't afford all these damn systems.
The difference is that the 3DS isn't a variation of the DS. It's not like the DS Lite, or the DSi, or whatever. It's the next gen in Nintendo's portable line. Like how the GBA wasn't just another variant on the GB.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:43 am

I have to side with Taku, I had a gameboy and all that in Middle school but by the time I got to high school and had a car and a nice cell phone, I have no real want or need to play a video game on such a tiny screen.

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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:48 am

Shove it, Taku. I'm pushing 30 and love playing on my DS (and hey, the PSP on occasion) just as much as the bigger consoles. It's not an age thing, it's not a "lack-of-having-the-powerful-consoles" thing -- it's all about the games.

That being said, let's bring it back to that... the game(s). Play your little console war elsewhere.
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Post by Blue » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:29 pm

Anyway, I've been going through all of the NES RPGs to prepare for this game and let me say...I am SO sick of fighting Saibamen.
I can't wait to get to the Garlic Jr. part of Saiyan Assult though, it looks fun. Also the music is pretty killer for this game.
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Post by LeprikanGT » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:19 pm

I just don't get why they would scale down a game we have wanted so bad for so long down to a handheld [POSSIBLY, that's speculation right now] instead of keeping it on a console.

From a marketing standpoint, I do not understand it. Console gamers have wanted something new for a while now; handhelds have gotten more original stuff recently.

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Post by Taku128 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 3:42 pm

I think everyone took my statements the wrong way, and maybe it's from me being a complete dick in the way I worded them. I don't hate handhelds, I think the DS is an amazing system, leagues beyond Nintendo's current home console. All I was trying to say is that I'd rather be playing a DBZ game, or pretty much any handheld game, on my TV. For me, the convenience of a game being portable is outweighed by the inconvenience when I play that game at home. I'll still play portable games, they're still fun, but in my mind I see no reason why they shouldn't be on a console instead.

Also, I'd much rather be watching new DBZ animation in HD on my TV then on a handheld screen. But let's seriously move past this because this conversation has moved in an ugly direction. Sorry.
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Anywho, this entire concept of this game bores me to tears.
A handheld game with 3D capabilities with 30 minutes of animation should really excite me.. but because it's a remake of a shitty OVA, it just doesn't at all.

Dragon Ball Online is the only game I have any interest in Dragon Ball wise right now.

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