Toriko Takes DBK's Slot On April 3 (Kai Ends with Cell)

[Mewzard]

'Animate' it stateside? That'd cost FUNimation more money than Toei current puts into the series.


Guys, if Toei drops Kai they drop it. No foreign licensee is going to be able to afford to pick up the slack, let alone the rights.

Hell, Cartoon Network co-produced a second season of Big O with all brand new footage. Of course, it wasn't quite as big a hit as the first was, so CN dropped any chance of ever doing that again.

If they can do that, then Funi can spot some cash to do a much cheaper option with what little will be left of Z by then. Not like they won't make back what they spend and more. Kai's doing quite well, from what I've heard.

Dragon Ball's a safe bet to making money, especially when you employ Toei's method of doing things dirt cheaply.

[JulieYBM]

'Animate' it stateside? That'd cost FUNimation more money than Toei current puts into the series.


Guys, if Toei drops Kai they drop it. No foreign licensee is going to be able to afford to pick up the slack, let alone the rights.

Hell, Cartoon Network co-produced a second season of Big O with all brand new footage. Of course, it wasn't quite as big a hit as the first was, so CN dropped any chance of ever doing that again.

If they can do that, then Funi can spot some cash to do a much cheaper option with what little will be left of Z by then. Not like they won't make back what they spend and more. Kai's doing quite well, from what I've heard.

Dragon Ball's a safe bet to making money, especially when you employ Toei's method of doing things dirt cheaply.

Cartoon Network has a heck of a lot more money and resources than FUNimation.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

My main issue is that I want this full dubbing with this new cast.

Eh, the Boo arc was pretty decent script-wise, and the recasts aren't going to get a big part in it, anyway.

[penguintruth]

My main issue is that I want this full dubbing with this new cast.

Eh, the Boo arc was pretty decent script-wise, and the recasts aren't going to get a big part in it, anyway.

About as good as Dragon Ball's script was. Which was tolerable, but not good.

And the performances still lacked in most places, except for the new cast members like Kara Edwards.

[MetaMoss]

'Animate' it stateside? That'd cost FUNimation more money than Toei current puts into the series.


Guys, if Toei drops Kai they drop it. No foreign licensee is going to be able to afford to pick up the slack, let alone the rights.

Hell, Cartoon Network co-produced a second season of Big O with all brand new footage. Of course, it wasn't quite as big a hit as the first was, so CN dropped any chance of ever doing that again.

If they can do that, then Funi can spot some cash to do a much cheaper option with what little will be left of Z by then. Not like they won't make back what they spend and more. Kai's doing quite well, from what I've heard.

Dragon Ball's a safe bet to making money, especially when you employ Toei's method of doing things dirt cheaply.

I have to say Big O's Second season was kinda heavy on first season stock footage, and it was painfully obvious when they used it

[sbk]

My main issue is that I want this full dubbing with this new cast.

Eh, the Boo arc was pretty decent script-wise, and the recasts aren't going to get a big part in it, anyway.

About as good as Dragon Ball's script was. Which was tolerable, but not good.

And the performances still lacked in most places, except for the new cast members like Kara Edwards.

Really? I thought the Buu arc dub was pretty good. Voices improved a lot IMO. Piccolo and Vegeta don't sound like the same person, Chichi's voice isn't nearly as annoying, Bulma doesn't sound like she's pmsing the whole time, and Goku sounds good this arc too. Videl, Fat Buu, Babidi, Goten and Gohan had great VA's. And the dub music became way better in the Buu arc, it was more 'organic', and less 'HARDCORE' synths and electric guitars. The English script was more accurate in this arc as well.

Ofcrouse I still want the Buu to get the 'Kai' treatment. If the Buu arc gets cancelled, there's no chance the first 153 episodes will get the 'Kai' treatment

[SparkyPantsMcGee]

'Animate' it stateside? That'd cost FUNimation more money than Toei current puts into the series.


Guys, if Toei drops Kai they drop it. No foreign licensee is going to be able to afford to pick up the slack, let alone the rights.

Not for nothing but didn't Funimation commission someone to animate Afro Samurai. I remember them saying something about this in the special features. I'm sure they could pull this off to the degree of Kai's animation. But this is a little extreme and I doubt it will happen.

Also, I can't read Japanese so I'm still wondering...

Also, did the Jump page say that a Toriko episode would debut? What's stopping this from being a two minute sneak peak during commercials?

[ohaimynameiserik]

I have to say Big O's Second season was kinda heavy on first season stock footage, and it was painfully obvious when they used it

Well it'd be much easier to do this with Kai, seeing as FUNimation already owns all of the footage. They'd just have to "remaster" the picture... again... which I hope would not ruin it like last time...

BUT EVEN IF THEY DID RUIN THE PICTURE AGAIN, I would still watch it for the new kickass dub we are being treated to.

EDIT: What would they do about music though?! Would Kai's score be even MORE repetitive? I don't want any more American made soundtracks, unless they're backed by an orchestra and sound at least relevant to Dragon Ball.

[Elite49]

Is it just me or does the Buu saga always get shafted and treated like the hated step-child? I love all the sagas hopefully it's being Kai'd.

[penguintruth]

Really? I thought the Buu arc dub was pretty good. Voices improved a lot IMO. Piccolo and Vegeta don't sound like the same person, Chichi's voice isn't nearly as annoying, Bulma doesn't sound like she's pmsing the whole time, and Goku sounds good this arc too. Videl, Fat Buu, Babidi, Goten and Gohan had great VA's. And the dub music became way better in the Buu arc, it was more 'organic', and less 'HARDCORE' synths and electric guitars. The English script was more accurate in this arc as well.

Ofcrouse I still want the Buu to get the 'Kai' treatment. If the Buu arc gets cancelled, there's no chance the first 153 episodes will get the 'Kai' treatment

The script was still pretty iffy, filled with "jokes" that aren't funny or necessary and lines that weren't originally there. Sean Schemmel still sounded like garbage. His Goku wasn't even near good until Kai started. Tiffany Vollmer's Bulma was still as shrill and inhuman as ever. Sabat's Piccolo was terrible. His Vegeta was getting decent, but just barely.

A handful of new voices were good, like Edwards' Videl and Goten, Babidi's voice, and Dabura's voice. Buu's voice I can take or leave. Justin Cook's older Dende is bad.

Like I said, it was somewhat tolerable, but not good.

[JulieYBM]

'Animate' it stateside? That'd cost FUNimation more money than Toei current puts into the series.


Guys, if Toei drops Kai they drop it. No foreign licensee is going to be able to afford to pick up the slack, let alone the rights.

Not for nothing but didn't Funimation commission someone to animate Afro Samurai. I remember them saying something about this in the special features. I'm sure they could pull this off to the degree of Kai's animation. But this is a little extreme and I doubt it will happen.

FUNimation only handled home video distribution for Afro Samurai. The rest was between Japan and SpikeTV.

[MetaMoss]

'Animate' it stateside? That'd cost FUNimation more money than Toei current puts into the series.


Guys, if Toei drops Kai they drop it. No foreign licensee is going to be able to afford to pick up the slack, let alone the rights.

Not for nothing but didn't Funimation commission someone to animate Afro Samurai. I remember them saying something about this in the special features. I'm sure they could pull this off to the degree of Kai's animation. But this is a little extreme and I doubt it will happen.

FUNimation only handled home video distribution for Afro Samurai. The rest was between Japan and SpikeTV.

Even so, that means that it would be possible for FUNi to commission Toei to make the rest of Kai, possibly getting some other distributors (like Madman) to help out.

[Cold Skin]

I can't imagine the show being canceled, that just wouldn't fit with everything so far.
The show being moved to another timeslot is a possibility, apparently it's not the first time such a thing happens.

But what I think is that they might take a few months hiatus. They've been going on through the arcs non-stop, and it seems they didn't even actually had time to correct EVERY SINGLE THING and make a totally new opening from A to Z for the Cell arc.
So I think they might put the show on hiatus, to breathe a little maybe, but also to have additionnal time, to have a head start with the final arc and possibly recreate a brand new opening, rework more scenes with more special effects and maybe create the few minutes for the new Kanzenban ending.

I'm probably much too optimistic about the better re-worked parts (I'm already completely satisfied by the rest of the show for now, I'm not saying they SHOULD do better), but I think a few months hiatus would make sense for them to release the pressure and then upgrade the global rendering of the show for its big finale by having a big head start on production before it actually starts airing, with more than one week to work on certain episodes if necessary.

I would prefer that they keep going in a new timeslot though, cause their job is really fine until now, it's more than enough for me and I'm not strong on being patient, I like to have my new episode every single week!

So my opinion is:
- CANCELATION: highly unlikely, nearly impossible, it won't happen.
- NEW TIMESLOT: absolutely possible.
- HIATUS: very likely.

[MetaMoss]

I can't imagine the show being canceled, that just wouldn't fit with everything so far.
The show being moved to another timeslot is a possibility, apparently it's not the first time such a thing happens.

But what I think is that they might take a few months hiatus. They've been going on through the arcs non-stop, and it seems they didn't even actually had time to correct EVERY SINGLE THING and make a totally new opening from A to Z for the Cell arc.
So I think they might put the show on hiatus, to breathe a little maybe, but also to have additionnal time, to have a head start with the final arc and possibly recreate a brand new opening, rework more scenes with more special effects and maybe create the few minutes for the new Kanzenban ending.

I'm probably much too optimistic about the better re-worked parts (I'm already completely satisfied by the rest of the show for now, I'm not saying they SHOULD do better), but I think a few months hiatus would make sense for them to release the pressure and then upgrade the global rendering of the show for its big finale by having a big head start on production before it actually starts airing, with more than one week to work on certain episodes if necessary.

I would prefer that they keep going in a new timeslot though, cause their job is really fine until now, it's more than enough for me and I'm not strong on being patient, I like to have my new episode every single week!

So my opinion is:
- CANCELATION: highly unlikely, nearly impossible, it won't happen.
- NEW TIMESLOT: absolutely possible.
- HIATUS: very likely.

I agree with your theory, because its doing real well in Japan and Stateside right now. I know there was the thing about "They won't recast me because I'm too expensive" thing with the Supreme Kaio's VA, but the thing is the airings on Fuji TV, Nicktoons, and the CW have been successful. My little sis has been telling me how a lot of her classmates love the show, even though in our area the CW airs on a digital subchannel.

[AgitoZ]

I believe Kai won't be canceled but rather finished by April. Toei will make a new show called Dragon Ball Kai Z to show that the story is close to finishing.

[MetaMoss]

I believe Kai won't be canceled but rather finished by April. Toei will make a new show called Dragon Ball Kai Z to show that the story is close to finishing.

I could see that...

[DemonRin]

Yeah, as some others have said, how well it's doing here, as well as how well the ratings are doing in Japan makes me REALLY iffy as to whether or not they'd REALLY cancel it.

I think we're either getting a Timeslot change or a hiatus.

I just hope they tell us SOMETHING and don't just show the last episode of the Cell arc and leave us hanging.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

Jump Festa, an annual anime and manga convention hosted by Shueisha, will be held this weekend in Tokyo, Japan. Amongst the event schedule is a 30-minute "Dragon Ball Kai Special Talks Stage", which will be hosted by seiyuu from the series on Sunday (12/19) at 1:00pm. With the recent Toriko anime news, we may finally find out something about the fate of Kai. Unless the question is listed as completely off limits, I can't imagine that we wouldn't find out at least a little bit about it.

Last year the talks were hosted by Nozawa Masako (Goku) and Nakao Ryusei (Freeza), as that is where the series was at that point. Unfortunately it hasn't been announced who will be speaking this year, but I wouldn't be all too surprised if it were Nozawa Masako (Goku) and Wakamoto Norio (Cell). Regardless, we'll be sure to try and keep tabs on what happens this year.

There you go....

[Chuquita]

So things may be sorted about about Kai and the scheduling this weekend? Great to hear. :3
I really hope Kai hasn't been canceled and that they're just moving the time slot around.

And I still kind of want a new 2-D DB movie with the Kai label, but that's really grasping at straws.

[Rory]

I believe Kai won't be canceled but rather finished by April. Toei will make a new show called Dragon Ball Kai Z to show that the story is close to finishing.

I see what you did there.