How powerful would have Gokhan been compared to Vegito?

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Re: How powerful would have Gokhan been compared to Vegito?

Post by Fox666 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:54 am

Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated Base Gokhan > Buutenks (who is not far from Buuhan)
It wasn't "stated". It was just an estimative of Rou Kaioshin. Perhaps there is no reason to question his prediction, but it's still different of being stated.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated Vegetto doesnt nead SSJ3 (full power) to beat Buuhan.
Such a thing was never mentioned in the manga. Goku only realized he could merge with Vegeta in the last second, and he had no idea what the result would be. And it turns out as merely a Super Saiyan he is far beyond Gohan-absorbed Evil Boo.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated that its because of rival boost.
Not even close. The so called "rival boost" was never given much emphasis in the manga.

And if you was to ask me, the rival boost is nothing but a fan theory to explain potential inconsistencies of the "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto" in the Super Exciting Guide.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated by Kibitoshin that he didnt belive SSJ would be enough because its Gohan >>>>> Vegeta.
Its stated SSJ is (rival boost) which is enough.
Sorry, but I don't get your point.
Super Vegetto wrote:Base Gokhan = SSJ Vegetto > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ Gogeta.
That seems far-fetched. The Goku-Gohan fusion doesn't even exist in the manga, and everyone was surprised by Vegetto's power, so anything is speculation.

At best you can estimate Goku-Gohan fusion to be stronger than Vegetto because Gohan is stronger than Vegeta.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its Potara > Fusion.
That's what Rou Kaioshin said, and is also mentioned in the Daizenshuu.

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Re: How powerful would have Gokhan been compared to Vegito?

Post by Super Vegetto » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:03 am

Fox666 wrote:
Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated Base Gokhan > Buutenks (who is not far from Buuhan)
It wasn't "stated". It was just an estimative of Rou Kaioshin. Perhaps there is no reason to question his prediction, but it's still different of being stated.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated Vegetto doesnt nead SSJ3 (full power) to beat Buuhan.
Such a thing was never mentioned in the manga. Goku only realized he could merge with Vegeta in the last second, and he had no idea what the result would be. And it turns out as merely a Super Saiyan he is far beyond Gohan-absorbed Evil Boo.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated that its because of rival boost.
Not even close. The so called "rival boost" was never given much emphasis in the manga.

And if you was to ask me, the rival boost is nothing but a fan theory to explain potential inconsistencies of the "Goku x Vegeta = Vegetto" in the Super Exciting Guide.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its stated by Kibitoshin that he didnt belive SSJ would be enough because its Gohan >>>>> Vegeta.
Its stated SSJ is (rival boost) which is enough.
Sorry, but I don't get your point.
Super Vegetto wrote:Base Gokhan = SSJ Vegetto > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ Gogeta.
That seems far-fetched. The Goku-Gohan fusion doesn't even exist in the manga, and everyone was surprised by Vegetto's power, so anything is speculation.

At best you can estimate Goku-Gohan fusion to be stronger than Vegetto because Gohan is stronger than Vegeta.
Super Vegetto wrote:Its Potara > Fusion.
That's what Rou Kaioshin said, and is also mentioned in the Daizenshuu.
Funny thing is that Rou Kaioshin mentioned that with Potara they maybe wont even nead ssj because thats the power of potara.
Yet those Vegetto=Gogeta fans say Rou Kaioshin sad that because Gohan and Goku are > Goku and Vegeta. Did he even mentioned them during explanation of potara power ? No because its potara > fusion but some peoples think Gogeta ssj > ssj3 Gotenks which is to me pretty ilogical.

Btw link for daizenshuu where potara > fusion ?

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Re: How powerful would have Gokhan been compared to Vegito?

Post by Fox666 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:39 am

Super Vegetto wrote:Did he even mentioned them during explanation of potara power ?
He doesn't need to, Goku was going to fuse with Gohan. That was the plan.
Super Vegetto wrote:Btw link for daizenshuu where potara > fusion ?
The Daizenshuu doesn't say anything much different from Rou Kaioshin words:

http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz04.php?m=08&id=tech#link

The much-valued treasure of the Kaioshin. If two people take one each and fit it on their respective ears, one on the left and one on the right, in an instant they will unite together and power up. The principle is the same as the Fusion technique, but the effect is greater than Fusion. Furthermore, since this union cannot be cancelled, it doesn't have the weakness of running out of time and the two returning to normal. This union is only removed inside the body of Majin Buu.

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Re: How powerful would have Gokhan been compared to Vegito?

Post by Super Vegetto » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:18 am

Fox666 wrote:
Super Vegetto wrote:Did he even mentioned them during explanation of potara power ?
He doesn't need to, Goku was going to fuse with Gohan. That was the plan.
Super Vegetto wrote:Btw link for daizenshuu where potara > fusion ?
The Daizenshuu doesn't say anything much different from Rou Kaioshin words:

http://kanzentai.com/trans-daiz04.php?m=08&id=tech#link

The much-valued treasure of the Kaioshin. If two people take one each and fit it on their respective ears, one on the left and one on the right, in an instant they will unite together and power up. The principle is the same as the Fusion technique, but the effect is greater than Fusion. Furthermore, since this union cannot be cancelled, it doesn't have the weakness of running out of time and the two returning to normal. This union is only removed inside the body of Majin Buu.
Yes that was the plan but he explains how the potara power affects, not them. Why would he say that they dont nead to turn ssj against Buuhan ? Because potara gives more boost so its posible that only base > Buuhan by Old kai words. Its not them its potara.

So if we ignore this we get Gogeta = Vegetto because everyone thinks potara is yust simple way of fusing. I mean they pay price with whole life to be that strong. Its logical that potara poses some greter magical power than fusion.

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Re: How powerful would have Gokhan been compared to Vegito?

Post by Fox666 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:59 am

Super Vegetto wrote:Yes that was the plan but he explains how the potara power affects, not them. Why would he say that they dont nead to turn ssj against Buuhan ? Because potara gives more boost so its posible that only base > Buuhan by Old kai words. Its not them its potara.
Since Gohan no longer relies on Super Saiyan, we can't use it to measure Goku and Vegeta.

Even so, at least we can say that Rou Kaioshin estimatives for the Potara are far greater than Goku's.

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Re: How powerful would have Gokhan been compared to Vegito?

Post by Dabooyaka » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:59 pm

I think Elder Kaioshin's that's whats strongest quote means just that. I think Vegetto is the strongest fusion possible.

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