Why Does Vegeta Get away With So Many Murders into DBZ?

[Saiga]

I wouldn't advise them waiting to make sure that he didn't change his attitude about murdering everything that stands on his way.

I know, but they're just not the sort of people to kill someone who wasn't doing anything to antagonize them or endanger Earth.

[Michsi]

That brings the question: is the honor more valuable than innocent's life? Keeping murder well and wild just for the sake of beating him in fair combat? Especially that nobody has to know. If so how holding honor over other's sake proves the good guys to be?

Well to be fair, Goku regrets his decision of letting Vegeta go in the saiyan saga iIrc, so you could say he admits he made a mistake that time.


They play this honour card a lot though. Take for instance how nobody listened to Trunks when he asked they attack Cell together while he was injured.

As for the rest of the time, there really wasn't much they could do about him anyway. It seemed that his little help with finding a way to wish Krilling and Goku safely to earth was enough for him to qualify as not "so bad afterall " for some of them and he seemed to behave during his stay on earth.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well to be fair, Goku regrets his decision of letting Vegeta go in the saiyan saga iIrc, so you could say he admits he made a mistake that time.

Only because he'd learned that Vegeta and what they thought were his comrades were on Namek with Bulma, Gohan and Kuririn, and they had no way of returning to Earth since their spaceship had been destroyed.

[Michsi]

Well to be fair, Goku regrets his decision of letting Vegeta go in the saiyan saga iIrc, so you could say he admits he made a mistake that time.

Only because he'd learned that Vegeta and what they thought were his comrades were on Namek with Bulma, Gohan and Kuririn, and they had no way of returning to Earth since their spaceship had been destroyed.

No, before that. Right after their battle actually, while they were flying towards the hospital. Goku admits that he had been completely defeated by Vegeta and he had made a mistake by letting him go.

Nevertheless, with both cases, he regrets his decision when he realizes he put others in danger. It only cements the idea that he isn't aware of the consequences when he is being selfish like that.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Well to be fair, Goku regrets his decision of letting Vegeta go in the saiyan saga iIrc, so you could say he admits he made a mistake that time.

Only because he'd learned that Vegeta and what they thought were his comrades were on Namek with Bulma, Gohan and Kuririn, and they had no way of returning to Earth since their spaceship had been destroyed.

No, before that. Right after their battle actually, while they were flying towards the hospital. Goku admits that he had been completely defeated by Vegeta and he had made a mistake by letting him go.

Nevertheless, with both cases, he regrets his decision when he realizes he put others in danger. It only cements the idea that he isn't aware of the consequences when he is being selfish like that.

What? No, that must be anime-only. In the manga, the only hint of regret before he learns that Vegeta's on Namek is when he asks Kaiou if he did the right thing in sparing Vegeta's life.

[Michsi]

What? No, that must be anime-only. In the manga, the only hint of regret before he learns that Vegeta's on Namek is when he asks Kaiou if he did the right thing in sparing Vegeta's life.

No, it's in the manga, and yes that's the scene I was referrign to. When he contacts King Kai the first thing he does is admit that he had been completely defeated by Vegeta to which Kai replies that he also had underestimated his power. It's here that Goku questions his decision about letting Vegeta go, as if just realizing the ramifications sparing an enemy that powerful may bring. Frankly, I think it's more than a mere hint of regret.

[Piccolo Daimao]

What? No, that must be anime-only. In the manga, the only hint of regret before he learns that Vegeta's on Namek is when he asks Kaiou if he did the right thing in sparing Vegeta's life.

No, it's in the manga, and yes that's the scene I was referrign to. When he contacts King Kai the first thing he does is admit that he had been completely defeated by Vegeta to which Kai replies that he also had underestimated his power. It's here that Goku questions his decision about letting Vegeta go, as if just realizing the ramifications sparing an enemy that powerful may bring. Frankly, I think it's more than a mere hint of regret.

But he only flat-out regrets it once he realizes the full danger of what Vegeta being alive could do to his friends, when he learns from Muten Roushi that Vegeta and what's thought to be his comrades are on Namek with Bulma, Kuririn and Gohan, hunting for the DBs as well.

[Michsi]

Yes, it's full flat-out regret then, because he was actually experiencing those ramifications he might have thought about before, especially since it was involving his loved ones. But the point was he doesn't need to have shit hit the fan first to realize his mistakes.

[Piccolo Daimao]

Yes, it's full flat-out regret then, because he was actually experiencing those ramifications he might have thought about before, especially since it was involving his loved ones. But the point was he doesn't need to have shit hit the fan first to realize his mistakes.

Yeah, but I still think it was only a hint of regret, of him doubting his own admittedly poor judgement and decisions. Even when he asked Kuririn to spare Vegeta, he mentioned that he knew it was wrong, but he wanted to train in order to surpass and beat him.

When he becomes stronger and saves Gohan and co. from the Ginyuu Special-Squad with Senzu, Kuririn asks why he gave Vegeta the last one, thinking that he wants him to fight alongside them. But Gokuu (who actually shows some uncharacteristic arrogance later, when he claims that he can defeat Freeza) simply says that he wanted to finish the fight they started on Earth later, kinda showing that he hadn't learned from his mistake at all.

[Michsi]

It only shows us what we knew from the beginning, what it was that Goku wanted. I never doubted that he continued to harbour that desire, what I meant to point out was that he can regret these decision despite of it . Now that he believed himself capable of handling Vegeta's power, which was the main thing that made him question letting him live , Goku no longer feels the danger. Of course he's being reckless, many do that when they are too sure of themselves, but again, the character can and does show he is capable of hindsight when isn't being blinded by his love for battle.

[Piccolo Daimao]

It only shows us what we knew from the beginning, what it was that Goku wanted. I never doubted that he continued to harbour that desire, what I meant to point out was that he can regret these decision despite of it . Now that he believed himself capable of handling Vegeta's power, which was the main thing that made him question letting him live , Goku no longer feels the danger. Of course he's being reckless, many do that when they are too sure of themselves, but again, the character can and does show he is capable of hindsight when isn't being blinded by his love for battle.

OK, fair enough.