So, Vegeta has become "pure hearted" after Kid Buu?

[Kamiccolo9]

So they were willing to replace one tyrant with an immortal one that was just as bad?

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

So they were willing to replace one tyrant with an immortal one that was just as bad?

Yup. Out of the moment of desperation. Freeza was going to murder them; Vegeta, possibly not out of content for obtaining immortality. Vegeta was also weaker.

[Draken]

They did it because they had no choice, and they were deluded by his desperation. Vegeta's probably murdered more than Freeza; he killed Nappa, his own race.

Yea Freeza blew up a planet for the Lolz.

[ABED]

I don't see how Vegeta killing Nappa was somehow worse because Nappa was a member of his race. Race is incidental. The reason it's worse is because he's killing someone he was presumably comrades with.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

^ Not to Vegeta.

Freeza's only recorded to have destroyed Vegeta; and he had a reason for that. When Vegeta killed Nappa, he showed almost the same sadistic pleasure as Freeza did.

[Kamiccolo9]

So they were willing to replace one tyrant with an immortal one that was just as bad?

Yup. Out of the moment of desperation. Freeza was going to murder them; Vegeta, possibly not out of content for obtaining immortality.

What I'm trying to say is that Freeza is, by design, meant to be worse than Vegeta. He is portrayed as the masterind behind the Saiyans, he takes sadistic pleasure in hurting and humiliating his enemies, he casually destroys planets, he kills his minions when they bring bad news, is genocidal. Also, look at Freeza and Vegeta's respective reactions to being defeated by Goku. Vegeta trains to become stronger to defeat him, while Freeza decides to go to Earth, kill all of his friends, and make him suffer before he kills him. I think it's pretty obvious who is more evil.

They did it because they had no choice, and they were deluded by his desperation. Vegeta's probably murdered more than Freeza; he killed Nappa, his own race.

Says who? We have never seen Vegeta commit genocide. I'm not saying he's a saint, but you don't see Vegeta blowing up Earth after he recovers from with his fight with Goku to get rid of potential threats.

^ Not to Vegeta.

Freeza's only recorded to have destroyed Vegeta; and he had a reason for that. When Vegeta killed Nappa, he showed almost the same sadistic pleasure as Freeza did.

Freeza also caused the death of almost the entire Namekian race. And spent 5 minutes blowing up Namek. Also, as stated above, there are no recorded instances of Vegeta destroying planets in the manga, so Freeza has him one-upped there.

[ABED]

^ Not to Vegeta.

Freeza's only recorded to have destroyed Vegeta; and he had a reason for that. When Vegeta killed Nappa, he showed almost the same sadistic pleasure as Freeza did.

What's "not to Vegeta"?

Kamicollo, Vegeta didn't destroy planets, but he did massacre entire populations.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

So they were willing to replace one tyrant with an immortal one that was just as bad?

Yup. Out of the moment of desperation. Freeza was going to murder them; Vegeta, possibly not out of content for obtaining immortality.

What I'm trying to say is that Freeza is, by design, meant to be worse than Vegeta. He is portrayed as the masterind behind the Saiyans, he takes sadistic pleasure in hurting and humiliating his enemies, he casually destroys planets, he kills his minions when they bring bad news, is genocidal. Also, look at Freeza and Vegeta's respective reactions to being defeated by Goku. Vegeta trains to become stronger to defeat him, while Freeza decides to go to Earth, kill all of his friends, and make him suffer before he kills him. I think it's pretty obvious who is more evil.

Except Vegeta probably feels a sense of comradry with Gokuu since he's a Saiya-Jin, and his rival.

Says who? We have never seen Vegeta commit genocide. I'm not saying he's a saint, but you don't see Vegeta blowing up Earth after he recovers from with his fight with Goku to get rid of potential threats.

Because he was more concerned about Freeza obtaining the Dragonballs on Namek.

Freeza also caused the death of almost the entire Namekian race. And spent 5 minutes blowing up Namek. Also, as stated above, there are no recorded instances of Vegeta destroying planets in the manga, so Freeza has him one-upped there.

Vegeta had no reason to destroy planets since he couldn't breathe in space and had to sell them most likely. But Vegeta did murder an entire village; it only seems like he was less worse because he was weaker; that is all. I believe if the roles were reversed, he'd be no different except with some Saiya-Jin twist and I think he proved that as Majin Vegeta.

[Kamiccolo9]

Nappa was a Saiyan, and Vegeta blew him up. He also shot down Nappa's idea to revive Raditz. He doesn't seem to like his brother much, and refers to his father as a weakling. I think that Vegeta is more attatched to what his idea of what a Saiyan should be than actual Saiyans. As for his rivals, he has a tendency to blow them up. Kui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Guldo, Recoome, Jeice, Burter, all got blown up. Well, Guldo was decapitated, and Burter had his neck crushed, but you get the idea. Why would Goku be different? Also, he knows that Gohan can go into a frenzy and be a threat, but he doesn't kill him. Freeza kills the Saiyans just because, one day, one might possibly become a Super Saiyan. Also note that this is at a time when the strongest saiyan is 120,000 times weaker than him. So, while we see Vegeta clearing out planet's populations under Freeza's orders, we see Freeza blowing up planet Vegeta, which is full of people who are working for him, just to make sure one of them doesn't magically become 120,000 times stronger by fufilling an ancient prophecy that he doesn't believe in.

Says who? We have never seen Vegeta commit genocide. I'm not saying he's a saint, but you don't see Vegeta blowing up Earth after he recovers from with his fight with Goku to get rid of potential threats.

Because he was more concerned about Freeza obtaining the Dragonballs on Namek.
What about after becoming a Super Saiyan then? He was the strongest on Earth, and could have taken out both Goku and Gohan, who were the only potential threats to him. Freeza has already shown that he would have done it.

Freeza also caused the death of almost the entire Namekian race. And spent 5 minutes blowing up Namek. Also, as stated above, there are no recorded instances of Vegeta destroying planets in the manga, so Freeza has him one-upped there.

Vegeta had no reason to destroy planets since he couldn't breathe in space and had to sell them most likely. But Vegeta did murder an entire village; it only seems like he was less worse because he was weaker; that is all. I believe if the roles were reversed, he'd be no different except with some Saiya-Jin twist and I think he proved that as Majin Vegeta.[/quote]
Except as Majin Vegeta, he sacrificed his life to save his family from Buu. Can you see Freeza doing that?

Also, going back to the original question about pure hearted saiyans, Vegeta was brought back in the Buu arc with all the people who were not evil, which should be proof enough that he was not pure evil in Battle of the Gods. I don't see him being pure good either though, so maybe having a "Pure Heart" means something other than being good or evil? My personal view is that, after accepting that Goku was better than him, he got over his obsession with being the strongest and managed to escape from the memories of his past. As his heart was no longer conflicted, it became "pure."

[Saiga]

Kind of like Vegeta.

No, not at all. Vegeta stopped doing that when he lived on Earth, as far as we know.