SSJ Goku vs 100% Freeza

[freezamite]

... Anyone else starting to think this thread should have ended with Rocketman's first reply? I'm seriously starting to get a headache from how inane this all is, and looking back, it's really been this way since the first page.

Wow, just wow. So let's see if I understood what has happened on this thread:
1. Someone's asking how is it possible for a certain fact to happen if the Daizenshuu gave them power levels that seem a bit weird considering the situation.
2. I say that the Daizenshuu power scaling section was full of errors, because they didn't take into account a lot of variables that can affect a fight, like injuries or special conditions and such.
3. You as the Daizenshuu #1 paladin intervene saying that the Daizenshuu is 100% right, the manga has no internal coherency, and that I must consider those special conditions.
4. I point to you several examples where it's clearly shown that the ones not considering those factors are precisely the ones you're defending as if your life went on it.
5. You ask for the moderation to close the thread because you got a "headache".

That's not a headache, that's what happens when you're proved to be wrong and you don't want to admit it. It's better to close the thread so you can continue to defend that the Daizenshuu is a more valid source of information than the manga itself. Sad, to say the least.

[Kaboom]

I'm disappointed that you really, really just don't understand the problem here.

There's no need to claim that the numbers should be different because of other factors in battle, like you've been doing. It's the opposite, in fact. Other factors are what affect the flow of a battle despite whatever numbers are at work.

There is no problem with the numbers given in the Daizenshuu, or any need to want to change them, because there are no set rules about how powers compare to each other. You can cite examples with numbers attached to them from the series all you want, but the simple truth is that two or three iffy instances does not constitute a universally-applicable rule that applies to EVERY fight.

To coin a Dragon Ball phrase... "the only rule is, there are no rules."

This is not me arguing or indulging a "debate," or trying to elevate my own opinion on something upon a pedestal when I say this. This is me making a public service announcement.

I actually am a moderator myself, and I've been trying very hard not to abuse that privilege. But lately I've been thinking that these types of vacuous discussions really, really need to be more tightly controlled, because they often devolve into worthless "I'm right and you're wrong and here's an essay on why," and usually have next to zero value. If this thread had any worth to begin with, I think it's long been expended.