Vegeta is getting soft

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by hleV » Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:50 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:It's called character progression.
Yeah, he went from a badass evil dick to a super emotional coward clown. Great progression.

Some may like BOG Vegeta and some may not, but it's not the Vegeta from the manga.

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by tx3 » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:04 pm

hleV wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:It's called character progression.
Yeah, he went from a badass evil dick to a super emotional coward clown. Great progression.

Some may like BOG Vegeta and some may not, but it's not the Vegeta from the manga.
god bless you!!!!!!!


i watched a bit the broly movie cause you guys said it's worst ....

i cried a bit ....this happens when you have people from outside come and let them bring there ideas
thats why i dont watch movies and gt and the anime too.
shame on them.

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:08 pm

hleV wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:It's called character progression.
Yeah, he went from a badass evil dick to a super emotional coward clown. Great progression.

Some may like BOG Vegeta and some may not, but it's not the Vegeta from the manga.
For a badass, he sure seems to spend an awful lot of time with his face in the dirt, whining about 'But I-I was supposed to be the strongest, this isn't f-fair!'. Just saying.

And it not being the Vegeta in the manga is kind of an empty argument almost, since this movie takes place in a huge gap of time in-between events we actually get in the manga. And even the small amount of Vegeta that we get in those last, what, two chapters that are ten years later, don't exactly offer a lot to either confirm or deny either way if he'd have changed this much.
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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:22 pm

hleV wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:It's called character progression.
Yeah, he went from a badass evil dick to a super emotional coward clown. Great progression.

Some may like BOG Vegeta and some may not, but it's not the Vegeta from the manga.
You think it's cowardly to swallow your pride to protect your family?

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by Bussani » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:38 pm

rereboy wrote:
tx3 wrote:Anime has a japanese origin
cartoon ..rest of the world

also

Manga ---> Japanese (Manwah Korean)
Comic ----> rest of the world
In other words, anime is japanese cartoons. Therefore, its a cartoon, just a specific one from a certain place. Its basically the same as saying french cartoons, only of japan instead of france.
To make it more interesting, American cartoons are referred to as "anime" within Japan. It's just their word for cartoon. Hell, I often use the word as shorthand for "Japanese animation", especially when talking to people who watch a lot of it, but technically speaking it's all different words for the same thing.
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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by ChiChiFan » Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:55 pm

Flame Dragon wrote:Dragonball was never about badass guys showing off their oiled muscles and doing nothing but fightning.

Also the whole point of the scene was that Vegeta was doing something he really feels umcomfortable with, just to save the planet. That's why it's funny in the first place.
It shows his character development because Cell Saga Vegeta would put his pride before his family, while Current Vegeta is open to put his family before his pride, which is a BIG thing for him!
I wish more fans would see that DBZ was more than just fighting.

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by Nanotchi » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:49 pm

And also to be honest, I never liked Vegeta's overconfidence. It's really a treat to see him get some embarrassment :p

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by tx3 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:15 am

Nanotchi wrote:And also to be honest, I never liked Vegeta's overconfidence. It's really a treat to see him get some embarrassment :p
his talking about pride and the way he always tries to be the best on a anti heroic way ..man i love him because of that ...reaching super sayjain with pure anger ..you guys don't realize he is not gifted (born at the same day like broly in gokus case) ..thats pure work! He has all right to be overconfidence.
I love Goku and in Contrast i love Vegeta for all the things he does that goku would not .

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by Flame Dragon » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:18 am

tx3 wrote:
Nanotchi wrote:And also to be honest, I never liked Vegeta's overconfidence. It's really a treat to see him get some embarrassment :p
his talking about pride and the way he always tries to be the best on a anti heroic way ..man i love him because of that ...reaching super sayjain with pure anger ..you guys don't realize he is not gifted (born at the same day like broly in gokus case) ..thats pure work! He has all right to be overconfidence.
I love Goku and in Contrast i love Vegeta for all the things he does that goku would not .
It's not like being born the same day as Broly gives you a bonus.

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by tx3 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:21 am

Flame Dragon wrote:
tx3 wrote:
Nanotchi wrote:And also to be honest, I never liked Vegeta's overconfidence. It's really a treat to see him get some embarrassment :p
his talking about pride and the way he always tries to be the best on a anti heroic way ..man i love him because of that ...reaching super sayjain with pure anger ..you guys don't realize he is not gifted (born at the same day like broly in gokus case) ..thats pure work! He has all right to be overconfidence.
I love Goku and in Contrast i love Vegeta for all the things he does that goku would not .
It's not like being born the same day as Broly gives you a bonus.
than why did they pointed out in the movies?

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by Flame Dragon » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:20 am

Because Broly was born with a power level of 10.000 meanwhile Goku with a measly 5?
Also because Broly got emotionally scarred from Goku's crying... somehow...

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by tx3 » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:37 am

Flame Dragon wrote:Because Broly was born with a power level of 10.000 meanwhile Goku with a measly 5?
Also because Broly got emotionally scarred from Goku's crying... somehow...
haha thats what i mean by bad writing ...emotionally scarred because gokus crying, they could not come up with a better reason why broly hates goku...what a bullshit.

maybe you right..but i also think that they wanted to make goku somehow connect to the legend of tge born Super Sayajin born every 1000 years. i may be wrong.

anyway somehow goku can reach a higher level more easy then Vegeta let's call it Talent
while Vegeta has to struggle.

i always liked the dark side which is somehow more human more then the good one, which always get's spoon feeded.

but that dont mean i dont like goku ...

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Re: Vegeta is getting soft

Post by Flame Dragon » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:47 am

tx3 wrote:
haha thats what i mean by bad writing ...emotionally scarred because gokus crying, they could not come up with a better reason why broly hates goku...what a bullshit.
On that, i agree. But i just shrug it off as Broly being just that... insane.
I find the rest of Movie 8 really enjoyable. Especially Paragus backstory.
maybe you right..but i also think that they wanted to make goku somehow connect to the legend of tge born Super Sayajin born every 1000 years. i may be wrong.

anyway somehow goku can reach a higher level more easy then Vegeta let's call it Talent
while Vegeta has to struggle.

i always liked the dark side which is somehow more human more then the good one, which always get's spoon feeded.


but that dont mean i dont like goku ...
That's the entire point of the deal.
It shows that the Saiyan ranking system was BS.
Vegeta throught that thanks to his elitè upbringing, that he would never be surpassed by a lower class warrior.
Goku surpassed him with hard work and talent and showed that your fate is not decided at birth.

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