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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by xmysticgohanx » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:08 pm

It's funny because I don't like movie 8 but movie 10 is one of my favorites
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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Neshawn » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:04 pm

Dbzk1999 wrote:Neshawn I told you
M10 really does have one of the best choreographed fights
I also feel as if this is how gohan should've been in the series. He doesn't appear weak at all, and is serious. He's ready to take his dad's place and not be the little kid this time
It actually sends chills through my body whenever I see gohan and broly transform. Truly lssj vs ssj2
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xmysticgohanx wrote:It's funny because I don't like movie 8 but movie 10 is one of my favorites
That really surprises me, based on your screen name I would have thought you hated the character selection in that movie.... :D
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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Scarz » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:55 am

Besides BoG? Any movie with Broly in it.

And no, I am not joking. The most enjoyable DBZ movies for me have been the ones featuring everyone's most beloved character.

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:59 am

Any particular reason why? I can get movie 8 and 11 (it has Mr. Satan continuing to curb-stomp all of the threats to Earth, after all), but what do you like so much about movie 10?
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Scarz » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:16 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Any particular reason why? I can get movie 8 and 11 (it has Mr. Satan continuing to curb-stomp all of the threats to Earth, after all), but what do you like so much about movie 10?
If you're asking about Movie 10 specifically, I just enjoyed the fact that most of the "main" players were almost entirely absent from the movie. Piccolo, Vegeta, and Goku (kinda) never showed up. I sometimes like seeing characters (yeah, even Gohan, Goten, and Trunks) just take the spotlight for a little while. Even if it doesn't make any damn sense.

Other than that, the movie was just fun for me. Movie 11 was probably my most favorite, though.

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:06 pm

Scarz wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Any particular reason why? I can get movie 8 and 11 (it has Mr. Satan continuing to curb-stomp all of the threats to Earth, after all), but what do you like so much about movie 10?
If you're asking about Movie 10 specifically, I just enjoyed the fact that most of the "main" players were almost entirely absent from the movie. Piccolo, Vegeta, and Goku (kinda) never showed up. I sometimes like seeing characters (yeah, even Gohan, Goten, and Trunks) just take the spotlight for a little while. Even if it doesn't make any damn sense.

Other than that, the movie was just fun for me. Movie 11 was probably my most favorite, though.
M'kay, I see your point. Though I wouldn't define Piccolo as a "main player", or Gohan as not a main player. Do you have any opinion on the beloved character himself? Or is he just "there" for you?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Neshawn » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:29 pm

Now that I have re-watched every movie in English and Japanese multiple times there is one thing I would change. I wish the writers had Broly speak more, I think if he could articulate at least as well as the other pure blooded saiyajins it would add something, that is sorely lacking, to the character. He is still awesomely animated and a real bad ass, but I guess I wish the whole saiyajin relationship like Goku and Vegeta have, could have Broly added in the conversation if even just for 1 movie. I guess he is too blood thirsty and angry and Goku for crying as a baby too have time to talk!
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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Neshawn » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:31 pm

Since I am on the topic, that is what I would change about the Broly movies. (Except Bio Broly, no surprise he doesn't talk in that one) SO.....

What would you change in certain movies that could have made it better or more appealing to you?
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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Dbzk1999 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:48 pm

Neshawn wrote:Now that I have re-watched every movie in English and Japanese multiple times there is one thing I would change. I wish the writers had Broly speak more, I think if he could articulate at least as well as the other pure blooded saiyajins it would add something, that is sorely lacking, to the character. He is still awesomely animated and a real bad ass, but I guess I wish the whole saiyajin relationship like Goku and Vegeta have, could have Broly added in the conversation if even just for 1 movie. I guess he is too blood thirsty and angry and Goku for crying as a baby too have time to talk!
Basically
In movie 8, he could still speak in sentences
Movie 10- he's lost whatever sanity he had left
Just think of kid buu

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Neshawn » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:52 pm

Dbzk1999 wrote: Basically
In movie 8, he could still speak in sentences
Movie 10- he's lost whatever sanity he had left
Just think of kid buu
True! I think his character being so overwhelmingly angry and evil it makes sense along with the fact he kinda shows what I imagine a saiyajin warrior probably was during the time they took over planet Vegeta. Maybe with Bio Broly I would have added Vegeta in there or even fusion would have been cool (gotenks).
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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Jackal puFF » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:22 pm

I don't think he was totally insane in the membrane in movie 10. Well he was kinda like that to begin with huh?

But to me it seemed like he was totally in control tormenting Trunks and Goten. It's like he was playing with them until Gohan showed up.

I have to say I think I like Movie 10 better than 8 as well.

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Neshawn » Sat Oct 18, 2014 3:33 pm

yeah, he wasn't as blood thirsty to kill trunks and goten as he could have been. He does have some lines that are pretty normal, but I still I wish he had more talking about his story. Paragus explaining he and his sons hatred for the royal family was not significant enough for me, cool though! not a huge thing that ruins the movie, I have been racking my brain trying to find something that I could change with any of the movies. Not as easy as I thought, jackal puff do you have a movie where you feel like something could have been added or removed for the better of the movie. they are so short in some cases they leave little room for addition or subtraction.
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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Dbzk1999 » Sat Oct 18, 2014 7:07 pm

Neshawn wrote:yeah, he wasn't as blood thirsty to kill trunks and goten as he could have been. He does have some lines that are pretty normal, but I still I wish he had more talking about his story. Paragus explaining he and his sons hatred for the royal family was not significant enough for me, cool though! not a huge thing that ruins the movie, I have been racking my brain trying to find something that I could change with any of the movies. Not as easy as I thought, jackal puff do you have a movie where you feel like something could have been added or removed for the better of the movie. they are so short in some cases they leave little room for addition or subtraction.
I'd say he still wanted to kill them, just this time, he wants to make goku (goten) truly suffer, I mean, it seemed he was done playing and was going to finish them of until goten arrived, he also looked dead serious while doing it
Also remember broly WAS in his ssj form, where he seems to still be able to think clearly, when he went lssj he turned on psychopath mode
Speaking of which, am I the only one who loves both rssj and ssj broly's designs? It's like for me, when I'm playing bt3 or the rb games, I find myself playing as his ssj form instead of his lssj form
Or did anyone feel a little pity for broly? I mean when I saw him getting stabbed like that, it was a little painful to watch

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by Neshawn » Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:31 pm

I almost mentioned in my last post that his lssj form he completely looses all ability to do anything but destroy,great minds think alike! in movie 8 he does talk that form more than I would think. I do agree that his ssj is way cooler than lssj. If I ever pick him in rb2 I usually stick to the ssj form, it's cool he has different hair color in that form! I hate his combos though... He isn't as bad in budokai 3 though. he is one of the coolest designs for a bad guy in the entire series, hands down. Only rivaled by piccolo who isn't really a bad guy for very long.
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Post by Jackal puFF » Sun Oct 19, 2014 3:05 am

Neshawn wrote:yeah, he wasn't as blood thirsty to kill trunks and goten as he could have been. He does have some lines that are pretty normal, but I still I wish he had more talking about his story. Paragus explaining he and his sons hatred for the royal family was not significant enough for me, cool though! not a huge thing that ruins the movie, I have been racking my brain trying to find something that I could change with any of the movies. Not as easy as I thought, jackal puff do you have a movie where you feel like something could have been added or removed for the better of the movie. they are so short in some cases they leave little room for addition or subtraction.
I agree with ya there. Maybe replace a few of those "kakarot!" lines with something more would have helped make it better. In 11 he's just completely mute and that sucks. They really should have added in his crazy laughs to make that movie feel more like a horror like it was trying to be.

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Re: Favorite Movie

Post by sintzu » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:15 am

Neshawn wrote:What would you change in certain movies that could have made it better or more appealing to you?
2 Things and they apply to all original 13 movies :

1- Have them fit within the main story.

2- Give each character a movie to shine in.

One thing movie 9 got right was having Gohan be the star but why was he in movie 10 when at the time Vegeta was stronger ? And why wasn't Piccolo in it ? That movie would have been so epic if it was those 2 who fought and took down Broly.

The best thing BOG did was have someone other then Goku do something and based on how BOG went and what Toriyama said it looks like he's going to take that a step further in the next movie by giving him a bigger role or even have him be the main hero.

That's good for Vegeta which follows how he was portrayed in the Manga but one character that i want to see shine but know he won't is Piccolo who even in the manga never did unfortunately.
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Post by Neshawn » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:28 am

Jackalp, completely agree that a little more screams or even a Karott thrown in would have made bio broly seem more like broly that some sludge monster. The only excuse I can give for them not doing that is it's not really him i guess its a "bio" warrior made with his DNA. Thin reasoning but it seems like toriyama always has pretty lack luster excuses when it comes to stuff like that.
Sintzu and I'm sure jackal puff will agree that it makes no sense movie 10 has no vegeta or piccolo considering they would easily sense his power level and their relationship with 2 of the main characters. Also trunks has the moment where he says his dad would be so disappointed for him running and hiding. It seems like the perfect place for vegeta to have his rare good parenting moment where he makes trunks not feel bad about hiding. And no piccolo?! He usually is just meditating by a waterfall waiting for action. I'm sure they didn't put either so they could show off the new character design for gohan and see the response.
The movies would be a lot better overall if vegeta or someone besides goku has a moment. Piccolo has quite a few in movies 1-6 roughly but gets kinda phased out as time goes on. In worlds strongest he's even the main villain along with one of the protagonists. I totally agree with both suggestions though!
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Post by Jackal puFF » Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:28 pm

Yeah I always forget that the main fighters are missing cause I always try to forget about them to not ruin the movie haha. Goku was dead, maybe Vegeta was dead too? Maybe Piccolo just wanted to watch the fight for once and knew the kids and Gohan could handle him.

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Post by Freeza Soldier #156 » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:05 pm

Neshawn wrote: The only excuse I can give for them not doing that is it's not really him i guess its a "bio" warrior made with his DNA. Thin reasoning but it seems like toriyama always has pretty lack luster excuses when it comes to stuff like that.
Not that this isn't true from time to time, but you can't pin this one on him. Last time I checked, Toriyama had very little to do with Broli and absolutely nothing to do with movie 11.

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Post by Neshawn » Sun Oct 19, 2014 5:52 pm

Jackal puFF wrote:Yeah I always forget that the main fighters are missing cause I always try to forget about them to not ruin the movie haha. Goku was dead, maybe Vegeta was dead too? Maybe Piccolo just wanted to watch the fight for once and knew the kids and Gohan could handle him.
right? I do the same thing, I like (as I'm assuming you like too) the way they did it just having gohan and the next group of fighters take the spotlight. Really cool, but completely forgetting about the others can be frustrating to sintzus point.
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Neshawn wrote: The only excuse I can give for them not doing that is it's not really him i guess its a "bio" warrior made with his DNA. Thin reasoning but it seems like toriyama always has pretty lack luster excuses when it comes to stuff like that.
Not that this isn't true from time to time, but you can't pin this one on him. Last time I checked, Toriyama had very little to do with Broli and absolutely nothing to do with movie 11.
yeah I wasn't meaning to say that he had a big part in the process and it's his fault. Mainly saying hypothetically that if he were to be asked that question that could be a response I could picture.
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