The dislike for SSJ Bardock

[VintageSaiyan]

As for SSJ Bardock, I personally liked the transition he went through, as his transformation wasn't merely limited to superficial characteristics like enhanced physical strength and golden hair. It was coupled with a deep maturation in character as he evolved from a ruthless killer to a warrior, who to some degree learned to acknowledge fighting for a just cause.

Are you kidding me? It was completely superficial. He had about as much character development as you would find on The Big Bang Theory. He retained none of his character from the previous TV special to begin with, it's as if they needed feel good story for 8 year olds - which unfortunately is what Dragonball has become.

[Luso Saiyan]

That's what the story of EOB implies though, for having Bardock become the very catalyst for what would kick start the entire plot of Dragon Ball.

The setting is a paradox and what kickstarted the story of the series was the TV special. This happened after it. Goku was already born and sent away.

Are you kidding me? It was completely superficial. He had about as much character development as you would find on The Big Bang Theory. He retained none of his character from the previous TV special to begin with,

Yes, he did. But his character changed as the episode went on, that's what it was all about. You may not like it, but that doesn't make his character growth inexistent.

[VintageSaiyan]

That's what the story of EOB implies though, for having Bardock become the very catalyst for what would kick start the entire plot of Dragon Ball.

The setting is a paradox and what kickstarted the story of the series was the TV special. This happened after it. Goku was already born and sent away.

Are you kidding me? It was completely superficial. He had about as much character development as you would find on The Big Bang Theory. He retained none of his character from the previous TV special to begin with,

Yes, he did. But his character changed as the episode went on, that's what it was all about. You may not like it, but that doesn't make his character growth inexistent.

It's not only that I don't like it, but it was objectively superficial, cookie cutter copy and paste nonsense. The "friendship" he had with that alien thing had no substance at all. There was also almost no trace of the Bardock we knew from the previous special to begin with.

[Dbzejo]

I dont get the hate for SSJ Bardock. That special is just a what-if, its not something to be taken seriously. Bardock is cool and badass, his transformation is too, so why hate?

[Luso Saiyan]

but it was objectively superficial,

That's subjective, not objective. And his friendship with the alien didn't happen right from the start. It developed and grew, which makes it anything but lacking substance.