Supreme Kai's strength

[ahill1]

I prefer the interpretation that VIZ gives in this case;It seems much more correct. Either way Piccolo could be judging the power of Kaioshin only by his status as a deity; Piccolo did not enter the tournament to give up just because it was not the strongest in it, then no, it has nothing to do with power.

Kaioshin saw the movements of Yakon, then he should be able to judge their strength; yet he wanted everyone to attack Yakon the same time. If Kaioshin were stronger he does not suggest that all attack at the same time, it is common sense.

Piccolo will not give up the fight just because it surpassed in power, otherwise he would not go into the tournament knowing that Goku and Gohan were in it.

I still think Piccolo >>> Saiyajins base >> Kaioshin >>>> Freeza

I'm not trying to be stubborn, this is only the interpretation I give the story; I do not invalidate the translation of VIZ, which is more official than the translation by any fan.

[Darkprince410]

I prefer the interpretation that VIZ gives in this case;It seems much more correct. Either way Piccolo could be judging the power of Kaioshin only by his status as a deity; Piccolo did not enter the tournament to give up just because it was not the strongest in it, then no, it has nothing to do with power.

Viz's translations have been compared repeatedly to the original before, and there's a good bit that the Viz translation either takes liberties on or outright is wrong about. One of the biggest is the fact that, for no reason whatsoever, they decided to remove Vegeta's statement over just how powerful the Oozaru transformation makes a Saiya-jin, instead replacing it with some unnecessary comment about that being when they were strongest. This particular example is another big one, since it's having Piccolo state that Kaioushin is a higher order of being, when the original dialogue indicates nothing of the sort, and near identical dialogue has been used repeatedly to show strength.

Kaioshin saw the movements of Yakon, then he should be able to judge their strength; yet he wanted everyone to attack Yakon the same time. If Kaioshin were stronger he does not suggest that all attack at the same time, it is common sense.

Again, all that means is that he's a terrible judge of strength. Kaioushin's not a fighter. In fact, outside of the battle with Buu millions of years before the events of Dragon Ball, he's likely never even seen combat. He's not going to have the combat experience to be able to accurately judge character strengths based solely on movements.

Piccolo will not give up the fight just because it surpassed in power, otherwise he would not go into the tournament knowing that Goku and Gohan were in it.

Nevertheless, since he states that he gave up because the dimensions between them were too different, and there's nothing actually contradicting this, there's no reason to dismiss it.

[ahill1]

I have

Piccolo(buu saga) 95,000,000,000
Yakon 6,000,000,000
Goku base 6,000,000,000
Pui Pui 1,800,000,000
East Kaioshin 1,200,000,000

[Kamiccolo9]

I have

Piccolo(buu saga) 95,000,000,000
Yakon 6,000,000,000
Goku base 6,000,000,000
Pui Pui 1,800,000,000
East Kaioshin 1,200,000,000

I have

Piccolo (Buu Saga) (1,234,567,888,990,5434,566) x (446,633,668) + 945454! to the eighth power
Yakon (6x/455,646,264,647)f~x times a bagilionfinity
Goku Base a bagilionfinity and one
Pui Pui=15 units of Raditz
East Kaioshin=

Spoiler:

How does that look, guys?!?!

Seriously, if you want to make up numbers, go to the thread for that. Can we at least try to engender actual discussion here? Because I, at least, don't care what your numbers are if you don't give context for them, or bother trying to explain them. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Piccolo (Buu Saga) (1,234,567,888,990,5434,566) x (446,633,668) + 945454! to the eighth power
Yakon (6x/455,646,264,647)f~x times a bagilionfinity
Goku Base a bagilionfinity and one
Pui Pui=15 units of Raditz
East Kaioshin=

Spoiler:

How does that look, guys?!?!

+100

I really don't see the big deal in Piccolo being weaker than Kaioshin.