20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed May 04, 2016 12:57 pm

sintzu wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Why would they want to remember the dark time of Dragon Ball ?
If they wanted people to forget about it then they wouldn't be using it in video games and merchandise.

They also gave it the same premium quality dragon box release that they gave the other 2 so they're clearly not ashamed of it.
Well, of course it has a dbox release, people like to finish their collections, even the parts they don't like.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sintzu » Wed May 04, 2016 1:09 pm

TenshinFan wrote:I love that since the new Super series, GT has been given more serious attention by fans.
Everyone said that if Toriyama made it it wouldn't have the problems that it has but now that he's making a sequel and it has those same problems and arguably more if you count the production side of things, fans are accepting that the franchise peaked with the Buu arc and are just going to enjoy the material that came after for what it is regardless of it's flaws.

I think if you skip certain episodes, GT can be an enjoyable show and I think more fans are beginning to see that.
Kuririn Fan wrote: Well, of course it has a dbox release, people like to finish their collections, even the parts they don't like.
People won't spend 500$ on something they don't like.

The reason people bought it is because they liked it.
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed May 04, 2016 1:27 pm

sintzu wrote:
People won't spend 500$ on something they don't like.
The reason people bought it is because they liked it.
OR
they are big fans who enjoy DB-DBZ and manga and want to complete their collection, even if it's GT.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sintzu » Wed May 04, 2016 1:57 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:They are big fans who enjoy DB-DBZ and manga and want to complete their collection, even if it's GT.
There are a good amount of fans who like GT.

You have them here, Youtube and on other sites.

The complete series on Amazon has a 4.5/5 rating from customers.

I know it has problems but do you think it's so bad that literally no one likes it ?
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by Kuririn Fan » Wed May 04, 2016 1:59 pm

sintzu wrote:
Kuririn Fan wrote:They are big fans who enjoy DB-DBZ and manga and want to complete their collection, even if it's GT.
There are a good amount of fans who like GT.

You have them here, Youtube and on other sites.

I know it has problems but do you think it's so bad that literally no one likes it ?
Of course it has fans, you can't be serious with that question, right?
Everything has fans.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sintzu » Wed May 04, 2016 2:14 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:Of course it has fans, you can't be serious with that question, right ?
Kind of, You make it seem like GT is the Ted Cruz of Anime. :lol:
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sangofe » Wed May 04, 2016 3:06 pm

sintzu wrote: it has those same problems and arguably more if you count the production side of things
What... do you mean by "those same problems"?

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sintzu » Wed May 04, 2016 3:34 pm

sangofe wrote:What... do you mean by "those same problems"?
They're not as bad but they're still there.

Fans complained that GT was more kid friendly than Z and they're doing the same with Super.

Fans complained about GT not using the non Goku characters and they're doing the same with Super.

Fans complained about the fights in GT not being as big as Z's and they're doing the same with Super.

Fans complained about GT's stories not being as long and detailed as the original's and they're doing the same with Super.
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by SuperSaiyanChair » Wed May 04, 2016 3:40 pm

GT is bad, but I don't consider it to be this unholy abomination that so many others believe it to be.

It had great concepts, some good humor, and some decent fights. Even at it's worst, I'd still consider GT to be better than Z at it's worst.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed May 04, 2016 4:58 pm

sintzu wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Why would they want to remember the dark time of Dragon Ball ?
If they wanted people to forget about it then they wouldn't be using it in video games and merchandise.

They also gave it the same premium quality dragon box release that they gave the other 2 so they're clearly not ashamed of it.
The character designs in GT are popular. There are some fans that don't like GT (like me) that thinks SSj4 is a cool design on it's own (Just not a good SSj form IMO). Everything will have a fan following (There is people that like Sonic 06, Batman & Robin and Highlander 2). GT did leave us with nothing new for over a decade. I still think they would have done another show or more episodes of GT if things went out better in 1996-1997.
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sintzu » Wed May 04, 2016 5:33 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I still think they would have done another show or more episodes of GT if things went out better in 1996-1997.
If they started with the Baby arc like what Funimation did, I think GT would've lasted longer and would've had a better reception from fans.

The Baby arc was the best part of GT and that's how I was introduced to it which is why I'm not so negative about it like others are.
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sangofe » Thu May 05, 2016 1:07 am

sintzu wrote:
sangofe wrote:What... do you mean by "those same problems"?
They're not as bad but they're still there.

Fans complained that GT was more kid friendly than Z and they're doing the same with Super.

Fans complained about GT not using the non Goku characters and they're doing the same with Super.

Fans complained about the fights in GT not being as big as Z's and they're doing the same with Super.

Fans complained about GT's stories not being as long and detailed as the original's and they're doing the same with Super.
Come on. GT was a helluva more Goku centric than super. Your last two claims i have never heard about.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sintzu » Thu May 05, 2016 2:30 am

sangofe wrote:
Come on. GT was a helluva more Goku centric than super.

Your last two claims i have never heard about.
I know but fans are always complaining about how no one other than Goku and Vegeta get to do anything, super has Vegeta so it's not as bad as GT but it's still something it needs to improve moving foreword.

Fans always complain about the Super 17 and shadow dragon arcs being rushed.

The fights don't get a lot of hate or at least nothing like Super's ep5 but they still do from time to time.
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by Kuririn Fan » Thu May 05, 2016 3:39 am

sintzu wrote:
sangofe wrote:
Come on. GT was a helluva more Goku centric than super.

Your last two claims i have never heard about.
I know but fans are always complaining about how no one other than Goku and Vegeta get to do anything, super has Vegeta so it's not as bad as GT but it's still something it needs to improve moving foreword.

Fans always complain about the Super 17 and shadow dragon arcs being rushed.

The fights don't get a lot of hate or at least nothing like Super's ep5 but they still do from time to time.
You're trying too hard to defend the trash.
Baby arc is nothing special, it aired and changed nothing, GT was still cancelled after only 64 episodes because it was bad.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by TenshinFan » Thu May 05, 2016 4:15 am

Kuririn Fan wrote: You're trying too hard to defend the trash.
Baby arc is nothing special, it aired and changed nothing, GT was still cancelled after only 64 episodes because it was bad.
Okay, easy buddy now you're just being a hater lol. Baby was far from trash and the most inventive of the non-manga villains.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sintzu » Thu May 05, 2016 4:27 am

Kuririn Fan wrote: You're trying too hard to defend the trash.

Baby arc is nothing special,

it aired and changed nothing.

GT was still cancelled after only 64 episodes.
I think trash is a bit much cause it's not that bad, it has a lot of problems but it also has some good things about it.

I don't know if I'd call it special but it's the best arc in GT and was overall good, especially compared to what came before and after it.

Piccolo died at the end and stayed dead so it did change something.

That's unfortunately true.
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by shinmaru » Thu May 05, 2016 7:43 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:I will give my props to GT... for nearly killing the franchise and the anime industry in Japan almost 20 years ago.

How it did that is unbelievable.

Nearly killing the franchise and the anime industry? That's very exaggerated.
The 30 anniversary is for all of the Dragon Ball from DB to Super, Z and GT included. So I think 20 anniversary for GT is unnecessary.

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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by coola » Thu May 05, 2016 8:44 am

It honestly made me wonder, if half of hate going for GT, is because it is considered side story without Toriyama involvement, save for some chara design? My main problem with it, is waste of some really cool ideas, and that it is too Goku centric, other characters barely do anything. In Shadow Dragons saga you could have Z fighters seperate into teams, and each team beat different Dragon, but no, it is only Goku and Pan to tag along.
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Thu May 05, 2016 5:33 pm

I'd love to see a Kai-style redub of GT but sadly the demand isn't there.

Besides that the only thing I want from GT's 20th anniversary is a Blu-Ray release (preferably a TOEI remaster that Funimation picks up).
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Re: 20th Anniversary of Dragon Ball GT

Post by sangofe » Fri May 06, 2016 3:21 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:I'd love to see a Kai-style redub of GT but sadly the demand isn't there.

Besides that the only thing I want from GT's 20th anniversary is a Blu-Ray release (preferably a TOEI remaster that Funimation picks up).
Do you know that Toei remasters on Blu-Ray are upscales?

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