Can Goku beat Beerus now?

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Re: Can Goku beat Beerus now?

Post by TheMikado » Sat May 21, 2016 11:46 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:There's also the possibility that SSJB <<<<<<<<<< SSJG, instead of greater like everyone assumes.
Oh man, here we go again...
At this point I find it personally hilarious that we have people who legitimately believe Beerus is 10 times stronger than SSBxKKx10 and a whole group of people who think the same form of Goku is at least 6 times stronger than Beerus lol. But the answer to why that isn't hard to find.
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Meirizone wrote:How can't he beat Beerus at this point? am i missing something ?
Yes, you're using facts and established information for your argument which is something Super doesn't do.

Beerus is stronger because the writers want him to be. that's all there is to it.
Bingo.

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Re: Can Goku beat Beerus now?

Post by Faisal Shourov » Sat May 21, 2016 6:29 pm

Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:Simple, the 6>10>15 scale is no longer valid.
And how do you know it's not invalid? Remember Champa's face when Goku and Hit looked at him? Hit kills Vados and Whis with a poke. Remember Whis KOing Beerus with just power level difference of 5 in Battle of Gods? Hit - Whis = 60-15 = 45

Hit = 2 x (Whis + Vados)
Toyotarō: … I get the feeling I’ve just heard something amazing (laughs). Lord Beerus and Whis turn up in Dragon Ball Super, and have become an unsurpassable wall for Goku and the gang. What do the two of them mean to you?

Toriyama: Well… First off, right now I don’t have any plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus and Whis.

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Re: Can Goku beat Beerus now?

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Sat May 21, 2016 6:54 pm

Faisal Shourov wrote:
And how do you know it's not invalid? Remember Champa's face when Goku and Hit looked at him? Hit kills Vados and Whis with a poke. Remember Whis KOing Beerus with just power level difference of 5 in Battle of Gods? Hit - Whis = 60-15 = 45

Hit = 2 x (Whis + Vados)
Vados later tells Champa that he can punish them later, Implying that he IS still superior (and by extension Vados is).
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Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.

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