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sintzu
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by sintzu » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:09 pm
Christian432 wrote:Gohan is just being used the way toriyama thinks he should be done.
He used to hate Vegeta btw now he loves him apparently
He never hated him and even if he did it's irrelevant cause all fans care about is how he's written and in the original manga and Super he's a main character who plays a major role in every arc and is arguably the most developed character in the franchise.
Gohan on the other hand went from being a main character to being less relevant than the Pilaf gang and is barley in the story anymore even though he was the strongest non fused character at the end of the Buu arc.
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by namekiansaiyan » Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:15 pm
sintzu wrote:Christian432 wrote:Gohan is just being used the way toriyama thinks he should be done.
He used to hate Vegeta btw now he loves him apparently
He never hated him and even if he did it's irrelevant cause all fans care about is how he's written and in the original manga and Super he's a main character who plays a major role in every arc and is arguably the most developed character in the franchise.
Gohan on the other hand went from being a main character to being less relevant than the Pilaf gang and is barley in the story anymore
even though he was the strongest non fused character at the end of the Buu arc.
That is the problem with Gohan, he is only useful to the series when he is the strongest. His character outside of fighting is useless for a show like this.
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by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:09 pm
This is post-Dragon Ball (anime) Dragon Ball. Every character, outside Bulma and Hercule (come at me), is useless if they are not the strongest.
And don't get me wrong, that's not to say we need someone to be the strongest to make them relevant--not at all. The bad writing just makes it that way because nobody ever thinks outside the box with any of these characters or bothers to split them up like in the Namek saga.
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
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by ABED » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:23 pm
Hercule (come at me)
Are you really so attached to that name that you can't call him by his proper name?
No, I see no reason why anyone should think Toriyama hates Gohan.
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by sintzu » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:32 pm
fadeddreams5 wrote:And don't get me wrong, that's not to say we need someone to be the strongest to make them relevant--not at all.
Of course not, multiple relevant characters in the original weren't the strongest yet the got plenty of great screen time.
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by fadeddreams5 » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:47 pm
ABED wrote:Hercule (come at me)
Are you really so attached to that name that you can't call him by his proper name?
He's still Mr. Satan to me, but I prefer Hercule Satan over Mark Satan. I also use Pikkon instead of Paikuhan, Frieza instead of Freeza, Tien instead of Tenshinhan, Krillin instead of Kuririn, etc.
"Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live action movie, re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I'm complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much that I can't leave it alone." - Akira Toriyama on Dragon Ball Super
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by ABED » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:23 pm
fadeddreams5 wrote:ABED wrote:Hercule (come at me)
Are you really so attached to that name that you can't call him by his proper name?
He's still Mr. Satan to me, but I prefer Hercule Satan over Mark Satan. I also use Pikkon instead of Paikuhan, Frieza instead of Freeza, Tien instead of Tenshinhan, Krillin instead of Kuririn, etc.
His last name isn't Satan. It's my understanding that it's a stage name in the same way Hulk Hogan's name isn't actually Hulk Hogan.
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
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