Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

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Re: Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

Post by Fishman » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:58 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Fishman wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Black went way beyond that, brotha. He's a much better "Evil Goku" than Tullece.
Goku Black wasn't even a better Captain Ginyu, much less Tullece.
Captain Ginyu is better than Tullece. :)
I'll have to give you that!
Super Saiyan Blue is not a creative color.
DBZ Movie 3 told a stronger and more believable "Evil Goku" story in 60 minutes than Dragon Ball Super has in 20 episodes. And it did it with better visuals and score.

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Re: Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

Post by Doctor. » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:59 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:you CAN write it to happen. That doesn't mean it's a good idea....and this view isn't "narrow minded" as someone else rudely stated. Rather its taking into account how sentient beings actually act.
How was I being rude when I just stated that if you can't think of a scenario to execute a concept, and justified it, you're being narrow-minded with your writing. It was just criticism, jeez.

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Re: Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

Post by Doctor. » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:19 am

Sorry for the double post but I can't edit posts on mobile for some reason.

You only need to look at Injustice, which is critically acclaimed, to see that it can be done. Superman, the pinnacle of what's good and right, gradually turned more and more evil after the Joker killed Lois. If SUPERMAN can turn evil with enough justification, then so can Goku. I'm sure someone will reply and say that Superman's circumstances wouldn't work to turn Goku evil. And my reply to that is: then create circumstances which WOULD work for Goku! Again, this isn't a case of "if" but "how".

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Re: Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:55 am

He wasnt the Evil Goku that I was expecting but at least he did a good enough job with it, I was hoping for a real evil Goku, where Goku was just evil, his saiyan Kakarot side to be precise.

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Re: Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

Post by gofishus » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:19 pm

No, Turles was. :lol:

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Re: Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

Post by Nano » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:20 am

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Nano wrote:I didn't like it. The entire saga was bad IMHO. Way too much time traveling bullshit. Time traveling always screws up a story. It makes things way too complicated... Especially when there's a multiverse involved.

Black Goku is another Ginyu Goku concept. It's just a rehashed idea.

Akira Toriyama ruined Super.

They should of just had Goku hit his head where he did as a baby and turn back into his evil saiyan self and went from there.
I don't see why you feel the need to post so much about a show you apparently hate so much. I mean don't get me wrong its totally your right...but if you dislike it so so so much you can probably find something more productive to do for yourself and the world.

Also the Goku not hitting his head thing is so contrived and basic. It's lazy lazy lazy writing but I guess some people think thats better. Not that Super has great writing to begin with but the entire idea makes 0 sense.
That was literally my first, maybe second post on this forum. I'll let you tell it tho.

Typical forum junky. *Tells me to do something productive.* Lol I just did.
I love Dragon Ball so much that I'm constantly complaining about how horrible Super is.

Black Goku / Future Trunks saga... was/is garbage.

Top 5 Favorite DBS Characters = Beerus, Whis, still waiting on the last 3 lol...

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Re: Was Black the "Evil Goku" you wanted?

Post by toadma » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:12 am

Not exactly Black being Zamasu kind of ruined it for me I kind of like the idea of Black being Goten,Future Goku or even being created by the super dragon balls.

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