It's (not) "TEN-KAI-CHI"!

Casual Matt · Post by **Casual Matt** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:01 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:EDIT: But they'd better have Zelda: Ocarina of Time up for download. I sooo want to play that game again.

I would think so, but if not, you can always try and find Zelda Collectors Edition or Zelda Master Quest. Both of which include Ocarina of Time. (Collectors Edition has Zelda 1, 2, ALttP, and both 64 games, as well as a demo for Wind Waker. Master Quest has two versions of Ocarina of Time; the original and Master Quest, which is harder, I believe.)

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:07 pm

As far as the topic is concerned, I know it is really annoying how the title of the game has been massacred in the US but who really cares? I own the American release but always call the game Dragon Ball Z Sparking! It doesn't affect the game or how I perceive it.

Now to address the video game war. Here is a video I'm sure everyone will get a kick out of:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=npdLXXC91a4
(There's more after the credits, so keep watching)

Nintendo FTW

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:50 pm

Nintendo is making a toy. Remember when consoles were toys? I can't wait for my very own Wii. Roshi, you wacked the mole on the head.

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:55 pm

djkalteraphine wrote:Nintendo is making a toy. Remember when consoles were toys? I can't wait for my very own Wii. Roshi, you wacked the mole on the head.

Well a trading card company first, but that is for a whole different thead... anywho when it comes to wanting the old games again, don't worry about it. Aside from the Wii allowing you to download games from their library (limited time I might add), Nintendo is known for their remakes of classic titles. Hooray Nintendo!! [/off-topic]

'lo Legends · Post by **'lo Legends** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:08 am

As for the rest, yes I can call it a gimmicky controller. Why? Because, from my standpoint, it is. I don't personally see the depth people proclaim it will add to gaming, though I may very well be proven wrong.

Whoever says it will add depth to gaming isn't right. It won't. What it will add is accesibillity to gaming, and for people who are already in the gaming circle perhaps a new, fun way to play.

And the whole 'classic games' thing isn't exactly a Nintendo monopoly. All 3 systems will have downloadable content, and personally it doesn't mean jack to me. I own all the old games I want, and I also have emulated copies so I can line them out to my HDTV with filtering so they don't look like ass (something I doubt any of the three will do, though I hope so on some level).

Nintendo will have a monopoly on nintendo games, which are some of the best in the old days, but besides that it's fair game pretty much. =D

Gamecube did have online play btw, and where you got graphics "better than 2 Xbox'es" is beyond me since Xbox can handle 720p, whereas the Wii will top out at 480p (assuming they don't yank the digital output, like they did on the Gamecube while proclaiming that no one used it...meanwhile, they were the only ones that they allowed to market cables for Component output, and they only sold them at the online Nintendo store). Might wanna actually read the specifications of the systems before you rattle off half-truths.

You're right. People will be dissapointed when they find out what the Wii can really do graphics-wise. Which doens't make any sense since people who want good graphics shouldn't even get a Wii.

My fear is that Nintendo will repeat themselves: Decent launch, game titles steadily thinning, then abandonment of the console early altogether (like they've practically done with the Gamecube now).

That's not possible. Wii isn't a "system with a funky controller". The same way the DS isn't a "system with a funky seccond screen". they both have different philosophies than their competitors that make them unique, that's what's truly different about them and why a lot of "gamers" aren't taking a liking to Wii. trust me, it's not for everyone.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:06 am

'lo Legends wrote: Wii isn't a "system with a funky controller".

It certainly is a system with a funky controller.

DBZ-Guy · Post by **DBZ-Guy** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:12 am

BrollysKin wrote:
'lo Legends wrote: Wii isn't a "system with a funky controller".
It certainly is a system with a funky controller.

Oh, i dont know. "A system with an innoative controller may work better. But funky can work too.

Pedro The Hutt · Post by **Pedro The Hutt** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:26 am

SSj Kaboom wrote: EDIT: But they'd better have Zelda: Ocarina of Time up for download. I sooo want to play that game again.

They will, trust meee~ If not, hunt yourself down a launch copy of the Wind Waker, it comes with OoT for the Gamecube, which you can then play on the Wii. >.>;;

As to the Classical Controller, it can also be used with games that use regular control set-ups too. Concidering it has the exact same amount of sticks, D-pads, triggers and buttons as the Gamecube controller, just arranged differently. (And more favourable for fighting games)

Either way, I look forward to playing Sparking! Neo with the Wiimote. I don't think it'll be that tiresome concidering the move will be done as long as you do the gesture, it doesn't matter how exaggerated it is. (And if you do have to do it all exaggerated like, all the more fun, I'll SHOUT Kamehameha too. >.>;; )

As to getting names wrong, oh well, it's not their native tongue... on the other hand, you should at least expect them to get the names of their "own" products right.

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:52 pm

Pedro The Hutt wrote: Either way, I look forward to playing Sparking! Neo with the Wiimote. I don't think it'll be that tiresome concidering the move will be done as long as you do the gesture, it doesn't matter how exaggerated it is. (And if you do have to do it all exaggerated like, all the more fun, I'll SHOUT Kamehameha too. >.>;; )

I want to play video games with you, Pedro. You sound like loads of fun, for serious.

Yeah, I'll probably call for the people of Earth to help when I do the Genki Dama. . . . . . Like I already do.

Bardock the Mexican · Post by **Bardock the Mexican** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:24 pm

This should surprise no one. They could have gone and called it somthing worse and ignored the Japanese entirely. At least I'll give them an A+ for effort. They could have called it the World Tournament games or somthing of worse caliber. Be gratefull they only misspelled the Japanese tenka'ichi instead of what I have said previously. Yes, in spite of how relatively good we got it, we'll keep on finding somthing to whine about. Wait, what am I talking about this "we" thing?

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:18 pm

Bardock the Mexican wrote:They could have gone and called it somthing worse and ignored the Japanese entirely.

Er... But they did ignore the Japanese. That's not how the game is called at all, in Japan.

Be gratefull they only misspelled the Japanese tenka'ichi instead of what I have said previously.

There's also the fact it should be "Tenkaichi Budôkai", not the other way around.
The "English" title simply doesn't make sense. Random Japanese words. Yay.

veshira · Post by **veshira** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:46 pm

Whoa, awesome clip! O_O; I can't wait to play this on the Wii! (Question: How would you do Burning Attack?! XD)

I honestly don't care that people say "Tenkai-ichi." It's not that big a deal. What does strike me is they called their game, "Budokai Tenkaichi," as opposed to the correct, "Tenkaichi Budokai." I know the meaning is the same, BUT DANG IT, IT'S IN THE WRONG ORDER!! *knock*

Mr.Piccolo · Post by **Mr.Piccolo** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:02 pm

Uh, did the title of the thread change or am I losing my mind..again..?

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:03 pm

Mr.Piccolo wrote:Uh, did the title of the thread change or am I loosing my mind..again..?

Yes sir, it did change.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:18 pm

Yeah I see EX is being a smart ass again. How did I spell it wrong?

Olivier Hague · Post by **Olivier Hague** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:46 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:Yeah I see EX is being a smart ass again. How did I spell it wrong?

Like several people told you already, it's more like "ten-ka-ichi".

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:49 pm

Hell even in the Image song it sounds like "Ten-Kai-Chi"

Post by **VegettoEX** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 10:15 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:Yeah I see EX is being a smart ass again. How did I spell it wrong?

Huh?

Like has been explained, it's flat-out NOT "Ten-Kai-Ichi" or "Ten-Kai-Chi" (see the image I've posted earlier), and I don't want anyone being misled by the title of the thread. I understand what you were going for with "Ten-Kai-Chi" vs "Ten-Kai-Ichi" vs "Ten-Ka-Ichi", but again, I'm just cleaning up thread titles.

tarsonis · Post by **tarsonis** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:24 pm

'lo Legends wrote:You're right. People will be dissapointed when they find out what the Wii can really do graphics-wise. Which doens't make any sense since people who want good graphics shouldn't even get a Wii.

Huh? So you're saying Wii games won't have good graphics despite the amazing screenshots that have been released? I'm not saying they'll quite be on ps3 or xbox360 level, but even so, you can't deny that they are good. Not that graphics quality is the most important thing anyway..

MajinVejitaXV wrote:Which will be fine if they have the software to support their home console this time around.

I'm not sure I understand this.

Akira · Post by **Akira** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:00 am

I just read through the topic and wanted to touch back on a couple points from quite a few posts back. First off, someone said that the title of the World Tournament was never mentioned in the dub. I think that is correct, to a certain extent. I do not think it was ever said entirely, "Tenkaichi Budokai."

However, when Videl comes to visit Gohan to learn how to fly, they have a meal with Chi-chi at the house. She accuses Videl of trying to steal Gohan away then says they should get married, after realizing Videl is rich. Goten laughs and says something along the lines of, "Didn't you and dad get married at the Tenkaichi Tournament, mom?" If I remember, Goten pronounced it correctly then. Because that is the only time I can recall hearing it verbalized before I bought Sparking 1 and somehow knew how to say the Region 1 title correctly.

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On a seperate note, I wanted to mention that those Zelda Discs are slightly different from what Roshi mentioned. Zelda: A Link to the Past is only available on SNES and GBA, it is not included on the Zelda Collector's Edition disc for the GCN. Here's the breakdown of what's included, Roshi was mostly correct, just off by that one title:

The Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition Disc:
-The Legend of Zelda (1)
-The Legend of Zelda II: Adventures of Link
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
-The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Collector's Disc:
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
-The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Master Quest

The Master Quest was a more difficult and challenging version of Ocarina of Time. It was originally only available for the Nintendo 64 Hard Disc Drive attachment that was released only in Japan. What it basically amounts to is Ocarina of Time with all the items rearranged in different places, the dungeons are in the same places but different. The rooms and enemies are in different places and everything is more difficult to get past.

It is basically an homage to the original Zelda game in a sense. People my age will recall that after completing Zelda 1, if you put your name as "Zelda" when starting a new game, there was a hidden "Second Quest" in the game. It basically rearranged the locations of all the items and dungeons and was very difficult to solve compared to the first quest.

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Last, I think I will just get Sparking 2 for PS2 and have the complete set of DBZ games for PS2 instead of messing with the Wii stuff. On a similar note, I am planning to just get the new Zelda for Gamecube and have the complete set of those games for Gamecube instead of messing with the Wii stuff. The PS2 has been good in terms of Dragonball Z:

Dragonball Z: Budokai
Dragonball Z: Budokai 2
Dragonball Z: Budokai 3
Dragonball Z: Budokai 3 Special Edition (Greatest Hits in Region 1)
Dragonball Z: Sagas
Dragonball Z: Super Arcade
Dragonball Z: Sparking! (Budokai Tenkaichi)
Dragonball Z: Sparking! NEO (Bduokai Tenkaichi 2)

Not a bad run for a single console.