Why does Vegeta still insist on using Goku's original Saiyan name?

[jjgp1112]

By original names he obviously means Lapis and Lazuli

[ATA]

I wasn't suggesting 18 and 17 don't like being called 18 and 17 lol. I'm saying that's what they want.

???...

Lol how in the world is that what you said here?

doesn't mean 18 and 17 are okay with people calling them their original names.

I'm not sure what the confusion is here. Just because Goku is okay with being called Kakarot from Saiyans does not mean 18 and 17 are okay with people calling them their original Human names.

[MasenkoHA]

There also isn't any indication that 17 and 18 remember their birth names.

[Grimlock]

All good points. I actually never thought about any of those possibilities. I thought Gero just put them to sleep and turned them into androids. Still not an excuse not to bring up everyone's real names at least once.

Especially now that Dragon Ball is all about revealing names, all Kaioshins got it (but not Kaios), Android 21 and Android 16 got themselves a name (the human versions, but whatever) and etc.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

It surprised me to find out that No. 17 and 18's given names (whenever they were originally flesh and blood before Dr. Gero altered them into androids/cyborgs) were never mentioned in the series. Perhaps they just straight up forgot what their human names were after their bodies had been changed.

[jjgp1112]

It surprised me to find out that No. 17 and 18's given names (whenever they were originally flesh and blood before Dr. Gero altered them into androids/cyborgs) were never mentioned in the series. Perhaps they just straight up forgot what their human names were after their bodies had been changed.

It seemed clear to me that they don't have any of their prior memories other than knowing they're twins. Especially early on, they don't seem to perceive themselves as "humans," just artificial life in a human vessel.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

It surprised me to find out that No. 17 and 18's given names (whenever they were originally flesh and blood before Dr. Gero altered them into androids/cyborgs) were never mentioned in the series. Perhaps they just straight up forgot what their human names were after their bodies had been changed.

It seemed clear to me that they don't have any of their prior memories other than knowing they're twins. Especially early on, they don't seem to perceive themselves as "humans," just artificial life in a human vessel.

Yes, i'm guessing after Gero had altered them maybe that effectively erased the memories they had as full blood humans and thus were effectively reborn in a sense as androids/cyborgs/whatever. Them being siblings could be the only thing they can recall from their former organic lives.

[nineko]

It's still possible for them to find out their real names in a future arc. We can't know if Gero had other secret research facilities somewhere else, with more blueprints and papers, don't forget that there supposedly are many numbered androids we've never seen before.

[super michael]

There also isn't any indication that 17 and 18 remember their birth names.

Exactly why else would C18 enter the tournament as Number 18 if she remembers her name. She could choose any name, but chose her number instead.
I doubt anyone knows C17 and C18 real name.

[MasenkoHA]

There also isn't any indication that 17 and 18 remember their birth names.

Exactly why else would C18 enter the tournament as Number 18 if she remembers her name. She could choose any name, but chose her number instead.
I doubt anyone knows C17 and C18 real name.

Exactly. And it was pretty much Toriyama just giving a whatever answer. I doubt he even bothered thinking of the names when he was writing the manga.

[Koitsukai]

Not even Krilin calls her by her human name. I wonder if he knows it and avoids it, or if he doesn't even know it.
The androids seem to be fine just referring to each other by their numbers and not their names. Weren't they delinquents? maybe they hated their names and lives, and they'd rather leave all that behind.

I bet Toriyama doesn't even remember that interview, lol. If you ask him again, their names might be different.

[dva_raza]

I'm not sure what the confusion is here.

LOL honestly I wasn’t sure either, it was weird.
But now I know. My mistake, but basically the word “minding” is what kept me automatically responding to the notion of their android names.
Cause not minding means you’re not bothered by something (negative). Which for Goku it makes sense cause his birth name is not what he’s supposed to be called, but for the androids it’s the opposite obviously. Like if they actually knew what their names were why would they ‘mind’ being called that and choose the names their kidnapper gave them instead?