Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Daima" TV series premiering October 2024, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Majin Buu » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:26 am

I didn't hate this episode like a lot people seem to have, but this was definitely weaker than the last one. It was mostly Team A and Team B dealing with more thieves. Not much to comment on there.

The character interactions continue to be engaging for me. Goku (from out of nowhere) asking the thieves about the Dragon Ball being useless without all three and the thieves nonchalantly telling him what they plan to do before realizing he's caught up with them was funny. Great comedic timing.

Glorio giving Panzy a fist bump was touching. He's clearly warming up to her.

The Demon Realm has night clubs. Random, but cool. I'm guessing that's one of Hybis' hangouts. Speaking of him, he continues to be one of the more amusing characters for me. His perpetually blank face and blunt, deadpan manner of speaking complement how charmingly odd he is. "I found this eye wandering around and just put it on my belt". Also, I'm guessing that's the "Third Eye" Gomah wants.

Vegeta and Piccolo got some cool fight scenes. Goku suggested Team B go and defeat Gomah, suggesting this might end up being their objective while Team A continues going after the Dragon Balls. Interesting.

We have the reveal of this new majin- Majin Kuu. I agree that his design is generic, but like Mike said, we don't know if this will be his final form or not so it seems people are jumping the gun a bit with the hate. I'm more intrigued about what he's gonna bring to the table as a character, it seems like he's not a blank slate of a person like Buu's original form was, perhaps owing to all the stuff that went into him (at the very least his design does reflect his nature as a hodgepodge of various monsters, including Saibaimen and Buu). Arinsu is sending him after one of the remaining Tamagamis, setting him on an eventual crash course with Team A (assuming they're going for the same Tamagami).

Also, Saibaimen come from the Demon Realm too. I don't have a problem with this. If the Dragon Balls are any indication, the various races that left the Demon Realm seemingly took stuff with them to the outer world that eventually fell into the hands of outer world denizens, so I can see the Saibaimen being another one of those artifacts of the Demon Realm that wound up in the outer world and eventually fell into the hands of Freeza's Empire.
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Soba Mask » Sat Dec 07, 2024 7:26 am

Love that the Saibaman are from demon realm but I don't get one thing... Who was the seed for the OG Majin Boo? A

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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:51 am

omegalucas wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 6:39 am
Noah wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 6:21 pm • "Majin Kuu" is a name that’s gonna be awkward for us Brazilian DB fans lol
Majin (Doo)Kaan incoming :lol:
*Insert Captain America sticker here. :lol:

Hopefully, Saibakan gets the Yū Kondō treatment.

I must say I was remembering that time that Beerus was the reasons of all retcons. Toriyama must have had a great time writing Daima’s lore bits.

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Post by Mystic-han » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:46 am

Just to know , was Goku always a dirty dog ? Like did he really not take care of his hygiene?

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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Noah » Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:48 am

YamiGoku wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:53 pmWe are on episode 9 of 20, we are half way into the series and...
Er... do we have an confirmation of this? Cause if not, this is just your assumption, mate. Chill the F out, also like VegettoEX said before we don't know if Kuu will be like this for the rest of the series, he probably will absorb someone and change his form.

Also I can already picture the scene where Goku and pals meets him:


They're heading to where Tamagami No. 1 is, but everything's on FIRE! With villagers dead and all! And in the background... someone sitting on a corpse, admiring their reflection in the Dragon Ball in their hands... This being is MAJIN KUU!



Yeah, like hell no Daima would present such dark scene to introduce a villain :lol:

(But my gosh, that would be so damn COOL)
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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:17 am

Okay but seriously, was Majin Kuu designed by Toriyama or somebody else did it?
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by LightBing » Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:19 am

Something this episode confirmed is the existence of zombies in Dragon Ball. The Demon Realm really has everything.
Mystic-han wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 9:46 am Just to know , was Goku always a dirty dog ? Like did he really not take care of his hygiene?
Second or third chapter of the manga when Bulma gives him a bath.

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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Thani » Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:22 am

Tbh, we don't even know if this Majin will be the definitive one. Like, Buu was stated as a fluke, a one in a million chance. It's possible Arinsu will keep her experiments until the right one emerges... maybe.

For now we can only wait and see.

That said, I didn't really like his design. But thinking it's basically a saibaman affected with the cauldron's ingredients makes it make sense.

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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Noah » Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:23 am

LightBing wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:19 am Something this episode confirmed is the existence of zombies in Dragon Ball...
Huh?
SHINOBI-03 wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:17 am Okay but seriously, was Majin Kuu designed by Toriyama or somebody else did it?
And why the surprise about that? I thought we had already moved past the phase of thinking Toriyama was flawless. Remember, he was the one who designed Golden Freeza (kind of like Majin Kuu), and when it leaked in the movie thread, it caused a huge outrage from the fanbase, until they obviously got used to it, which is what I think will happen with Kuu
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Post by Jack Bz » Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:36 am

Definitely the weakest episode so far, and structurally odd. The flashback to Vegeta in the nightclub felt like a weird transition, but I would have loved it if that was the whole focus on the episode because it was actually visually striking. The gang in a night club would have been a great setting for an episode but instead I definitely felt like I'd watched far too much ship issues and fighting random mooks by the end. That said, still loving Daima, and I don't really care if an individual episode is weaker every now and then.

Majin Kuu is extremely ugly and a hilarious idea. Combining the first common grunt enemy of Z with the design of its final big bad. Thanks I hate it! Hoping it's not a final antagonist design and ends up being something of a failed prototype. Would be pretty funny if he loses to the tamagami.

The fact that it IS going straight to fight the tamagami is refreshing though. Because now the progression of Daima is more up in the air of Goku's main quest will inevitably be interrupted like that.

I loved Goku telling Vegeta to feel free to defeat King Gomah etc if he wants, y'know, to keep himself busy.

Hybis is easily the best new character in Daima imo. Genuinely love almost everything he says and his voice actor is perfect.

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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by LightBing » Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:04 am

Noah wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:23 amHuh?
I meant in canon.

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Post by Noah » Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:09 am

LightBing wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:04 am I meant in canon.
Sure, like themes in Dragon Ball Online weren't introduced with the canon in mind
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by D.R. » Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:54 am

Mr Baggins wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 2:06 am
D.R. wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:41 am If it comes natural to you, then congrats: you have an eye for things that don't actually exist in the show. Review your thoughts before asserting such odd claims about the series.
"Congrats: you are incapable of engaging critically with the show at worst and being intentionally obtuse at best. Review your thoughts before asserting such odd claims about my posts."

...is what I could say, if I was engaging in the same accusatory rhetoric you're using in basically every quote reply you've thrown at me. But that's boring, overly hostile, and needlessly dismissive. There's nothing either of us could add to the conversation at this point.

Again, you are under no obligation to find what's being said persuasive or agreeable. I'd say there's been a number of indications in the past few episodes that Glorio is increasingly letting his guard down, but I can't say I'm interested in discussing it with someone I don't believe is approaching this exchange in good faith.

You're more than welcome to post your own analysis of the episode rather than nitpicking someone else's, my man.
When I say Glorio's fist bump is forgettable, I'm not disregarding your thoughts, I'm genuinely curious as to why that moment sticks out to you. None of these replies are "needlessly dismissive" if the whole point is to argue why I'm dismissing you in the first place. Again, it's the most dime-a-dozen way to show his "growth", so what is careful and precise about that?

I don't see what's overly hostile either, just honest and confused. If you don't like how casual I'm speaking, then just go ahead and say it rather than these passive aggressive replies you've been doing. Seriously, why write out a whole comeback just to say you're better than it and end the convo right there? Why suggest I'm doing this out of refusal to post my own thoughts rather than to have an engaging discussion with another member? What's up with all the "Yeah. Did I stutter?" and "What does this even mean?" prefaces before going out your way to be more thorough or showing that you know exactly what I mean?

No offense... but if you'd just write like a normal person, I would've toned down the bluntness in my reply. Like, come on. Obviously, I'm not entitled to be impressed and just saying something doesn't mean it's true. Those were opinions, and you already knew that before ACTUALLY displaying needless dismissal by focusing on the phrasing.

Take some accountability, because I got the exact same impression you got from my post on yours.

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Post by Bardock God of Time » Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:55 am

Guys I just realized something extremely scary about Majin Kuu

If he has Saibaman DNA...he could self-destruct but regenerate over and over

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Post by VegettoEX » Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:13 pm

D.R. wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 11:54 am Take some accountability, because I got the exact same impression you got from my post on yours.
Basically all of the posts I'm reading in this thread are coming across this way, though. It's very frustrating, and it's very embarrassing. None of it is fun or interesting to read. Let's all strive to do better, please!
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Re: Dragon Ball Daima: Episode 9 - Official Discussion Thread

Post by Soba Mask » Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:31 pm

I have no doubts Hybis is a traitor as well with his eye watching belt

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Post by Cipher » Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:42 pm

I really liked this one. A lot of dry Toriyama humor and some unexpected plot pivots with Majin Kuu seemingly off to defeat one of the Tamagami before Goku and co. can get to it.

Hybis is hilarious. Also they really animated the hell out of Geddesu in his one scene.

Not rescinding statements about it dragging in the first seven episodes, but it's really hitting its stride now.

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Post by The Monkey King » Sat Dec 07, 2024 12:50 pm

SHINOBI-03 wrote: Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:17 am Okay but seriously, was Majin Kuu designed by Toriyama or somebody else did it?
This is the same Toriyama who gave us horrible designs like Zeno, Cabba and Califula.
His designs became hit-or-miss a decade ago.

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Post by Koitsukai » Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:03 pm

At first, I didn't care much about it, but reading some opinions, Mr. Baggins makes a fair point about the fist bump. This is a guy (Glorio, not Baggins) that started as standoffish as you can possibly get, at first, not even sharing hotel rooms with the lads to now doing so, he went from letting Goku do all the fighting to jumping in and using his magic to help Goku, even when he knows there's no need for that after seeing what Goku did to T-3.
The fist bump is the most friendly gesture seen by Glorio, it's odd or weird or strange, or whatever word others used to call it because it's the first time he is warming up to the gang. Duh.

The design? meh, I probably could say the same thing about Perfect Cell, or 2nd Cell... well about Cell. There's always backlash when a new character design arises. Moro's was extremly criticized and now there's people memberberrying it like if it's fucking Final Form Freeza.

Also, there were no other colors left. Pink, blue, green, white, golden, black, all have been done before... this yellow-lime-ish tone isn't that bad. Maybe he'll absorb T-1 and we'll get something cooler.

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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Dec 07, 2024 1:10 pm

You know, if Kuu is part Saibaiman, I wonder if we're setting up for Yamcha to suddenly appear and be blown up randomly? Like, obviously, it's not just to be funny if you set the joke up, but I can't lie, if Yamcha shows up for a single quick set of shots and blows up randomly? I'll take it.

Also, I just noticed that Kuu is voiced by Seki Tomokazu (Domon Kasshu from Kidou Butouden G Gundam). This is his first role in Dragon Ball, which is kind of wild to believe considering how Seki was already in the industry during the original run of Dragon Ball in the 1990s. I'm curious how much of a role this is going to be within the animated series, since they obviously had no issue giving Tachiki Fumihiko what amounted to a one-off role so far in the series. Nevertheless, I expect Seki to play him quite a bit in the video games.
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