Who do you think is the most overrated character in DBZ?

Onikage725 · Post by **Onikage725** » Sat May 17, 2008 4:02 pm

Captain Awesome wrote:
Vegeta Jr wrote:
Future Trunks also destroyed the future Androids and Imperfect Cell so that's +3 for him.
You're going to credit kills from alternate timelines?

Thats a +1 for the heart virus then.

Cell's from an alternate timeline. So do we have to take away Gohan's credit and give it to Trunks and Kuririn (I forget whose blast actually hit Cell's tank when they blew up the lab)? And by only doing Z, we kinda lose Goku points. He gets a lot more if we go into Dragon Ball. Heck, he gets two alone for Piccolo. And Piccolo, if we start with Daimao, gets one on Goku, Kuririn, and Kami. I'm not even going to list all of Goku's, but he gets plenty. I'm only bringing that up because DB and DBZ are the same series and all. I know it's common to think in terms of Z first, DB as the prequal. But that's just how english audiences got to see it. It aired start to finish in Japan, and the manga never changed names (Viz changed the second part to Z for marketing reasons since english speakers were more familiar with it that way).

Gorrilian · Post by **Gorrilian** » Fri May 30, 2008 9:58 pm

I would say that Broly is the most overrated...except for the fact that, in my opinion, such things as value are illusions that can not be proven outside the scope of one's nerves and sensory organs.

By the way, who's standard are these characters rated on? It is rated by each individual person, breaking down the solidity of the analysis past to point of opinion and straight into oblivion.

Having said this, I like explosions. End of story.

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Fri May 30, 2008 10:40 pm

Vegeta, well, dubbed Vegeta

Followed by Brolly

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sat May 31, 2008 6:32 am

Whoa, I'm suprised this hasn't been locked, that new guys kickin' up a lot of double posts and needless comments..
Anywho, I'd say the most overrated character, is, up, Goku. But as everybody has already said, excusable, he's the main character.
In that case, Vegeta. there's too many Vegeta fanboys, he's cool and all, but he's just a carbon copy of Piccolo.

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Sat May 31, 2008 6:51 am

Rory wrote:In that case, Vegeta. there's too many Vegeta fanboys, he's cool and all, but he's just a carbon copy of Piccolo.

I disagree. The only thing he has in common with Piccolo is the fact that he's a reformed villain. Other than that I don't see any similarities. Besides, almost every good guy in Dragonball is a reformed villain anyway.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:17 am

Kid Trunks wrote:
Rory wrote:In that case, Vegeta. there's too many Vegeta fanboys, he's cool and all, but he's just a carbon copy of Piccolo.
I disagree. The only thing he has in common with Piccolo is the fact that he's a reformed villain. Other than that I don't see any similarities. Besides, almost every good guy in Dragonball is a reformed villain anyway.

Even Bulma... almost...

She fired shots at Goku, he attacked her car, then she was going to take advantage of him.

Rory · Post by **Rory** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:30 am

Kid Trunks wrote:
Rory wrote:In that case, Vegeta. there's too many Vegeta fanboys, he's cool and all, but he's just a carbon copy of Piccolo.
I disagree. The only thing he has in common with Piccolo is the fact that he's a reformed villain. Other than that I don't see any similarities. Besides, almost every good guy in Dragonball is a reformed villain anyway.

There's quite a few similarites.
Yes, reformed villain, loner, " I will be the one to kill Kakarotto/Son Goku ", Rivalry with Goku that dies down, and become friends with him in the end.

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:40 am

Ima have to go with Goku; I mean to be the "strongest fighter hero in the world", he only killed like two people in the entire series [not counting the movies]

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat May 31, 2008 12:10 pm

Broly, by far. He's a one-dimensionable screaming hulk, but fanboys act like he's multi-faceted. I myself am a Gohan fanboy, particularly SSJ2 and Mystic, but it's been shown by those two forms that when Gohan is able to control his hidden strength, his ego becomes comparable to Vegeta's and screws up the chance to finish things due to wanting to fight more. When he blasted Cell with the Kamehameha, he could've killed him right then and there, but instead, he practically laughed at his own father for making the oppurtunity clear and wanted to make him suffer more. And in his filler "fight" (more like massacre) with semi-Perfect Cell, he acted like a complete jackass.

Kid Trunks · Post by **Kid Trunks** » Sat May 31, 2008 12:43 pm

Rory wrote:
Kid Trunks wrote:
Rory wrote:In that case, Vegeta. there's too many Vegeta fanboys, he's cool and all, but he's just a carbon copy of Piccolo.
I disagree. The only thing he has in common with Piccolo is the fact that he's a reformed villain. Other than that I don't see any similarities. Besides, almost every good guy in Dragonball is a reformed villain anyway.
There's quite a few similarites.
Yes, reformed villain, loner, " I will be the one to kill Kakarotto/Son Goku ", Rivalry with Goku that dies down, and become friends with him in the end.

Piccolo was never really Goku's rival. He just wanted him dead so he could rule the world. Vegeta was constantly trying to keep pace with Goku and out do him. And Piccolo isn't really a loner. He spends a lot of time in peoples company, unlike Vegeta , particularly in the period before the androids. Also, Piccolo's a team player, Vegeta is self-absorbed. Not to mention the fact that their histories make them a lot different, and give them different motivations in their lives.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat May 31, 2008 3:31 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:Ima have to go with Goku; I mean to be the "strongest fighter hero in the world", he only killed like two people in the entire series [not counting the movies]

Are you counting the RRA in that body count? Then the kill count thanks to Goku is a lot higher if you do.

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Sat May 31, 2008 6:36 pm

Raki wrote:
LeprikanGT wrote:Ima have to go with Goku; I mean to be the "strongest fighter hero in the world", he only killed like two people in the entire series [not counting the movies]
Are you counting the RRA in that body count? Then the kill count thanks to Goku is a lot higher if you do.

While I do think Goku is kinda over rated by Z's end (and let's not even get into GT...), ... since when is the number of kills a decent means of judging a character's worth?
Bulma kills no one, yet she is responsible for a lot of important stuff...
Goku... who he does and doesn't kill has nothing to do with his character, when you get down to how he operates. 'sides, he defeated a lot of people without killing them. But even then... it's an action story, but that doesn't automatically mean that a person's worth is purely in how many butt they kick. After all, they wished back Chiaotzu.
*shrug*
Bah, that was annoying me since like page1...

LeprikanGT · Post by **LeprikanGT** » Sat May 31, 2008 6:42 pm

The question was only about DRagonBall Z.

I was just counting DragonBall Z since no one else counts GT, but I kind of see DB differently because those were just humans, and i cant really recollect of he "killed" most of them or just left them dying. [like recoome or burter]

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat May 31, 2008 7:12 pm

LeprikanGT wrote:The question was only about DRagonBall Z.

I was just counting DragonBall Z since no one else counts GT, but I kind of see DB differently because those were just humans, and i cant really recollect of he "killed" most of them or just left them dying. [like recoome or burter]

I would count both because it's essentially the same story. That, and Goku was considered to be human until we found out about his Saiya-jin roots.

SSj_Rambo · Post by **SSj_Rambo** » Sat May 31, 2008 10:17 pm

I find East Kaioshin to be the most overrated character in DBZ. When we first saw him he seemed like this awesome mystical character we had never seen before. Piccolo's reaction of complete awe and amazement led me (and I think all of us) to expect him to be an amazing fighter since Piccolo had seen and fought the best of the best up until that point. It turned out that he was nothing special, being astounded by SSj2 Gohan showed us that he was not aware of what amazing power was out there. And we kept seeing him again and again as if he was going to do something great, he was a big let down to me personally.

Raki · Post by **Raki** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:02 pm

I also find Tori-bot to be extremely overrated for being the most powerful being in all of Dragonball.

jjgp1112 · Post by **jjgp1112** » Sat May 31, 2008 11:37 pm

Okay, some people here don't know the difference between overrated and not good. People like Kaioshin and Dodoria don't even have much of a fanbase in the first place, so they aren't overrated.

agoogua · Post by **agoogua** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:26 am

I definitely peg Broly as this one, the guy's movies suck and so does he.

djkalteraphine · Post by **djkalteraphine** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:37 am

Broly, Gogeta, and Janemba. And I love Gogeta and Janemba. . but they are pretty overrated.

As for Goku. . . I'm sorry, but in my opinion, if you don't like Goku, you probably don't actually like Dragon Ball. The earlier comparison to Superman in Action Comics is spot on -- Sure, some people may love Kara Zor-El, Jimmy Olsen or Krypto more than Superman, but it's Supe's show; He's going to save the day the most because it's a chronicling of his achievements. Dragon Ball isn't about the dragon balls -- or otherwised we'd see more stories with completely new sets of characters and how the artifacts effect them -- it's about Goku's journey and the effect the dragon balls have on it.

So to wrap it up - Crazy powerful characters without much depth and lots of insane fanboys are overrated. And Goku is the star of the series, so if you don't like him, you probably don't like the series, as it is about him.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:55 am

I should note, though, that the title of the series is Dragonball, not Son Goku. Also, unlike Superman, Goku is not the only non-villain powered character.

(Yes, I know about Action Comics--but look how soon the title changed).

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