The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Noah » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:19 pm

What if the U7 Beerus Team was:

- Saibamen
- Bora
- Ninja Murasaki
- Nam
- Man-Wolf
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:56 pm

Noah wrote:What if the U7 Beerus Team was:

- Saibamen
- Bora
- Ninja Murasaki
- Nam
- Man-Wolf
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by AS_Saiyan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:28 pm

What if Freeza killed Gohan instead of Kuririn? How would it affect Goku vs Freeza fight and the rest of the series?
What if Chaozu had a real character?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Noah » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:36 pm

AS_Saiyan wrote:What if Freeza killed Gohan instead of Kuririn? How would it affect Goku vs Freeza fight and the rest of the series?
What if Chaozu had a real character?
- Sadly saying I can imagine Goku being pissed but not a lot like when Krillin died by such factors as: Gohan died, but he could be revived since it was his first death, even Gohan being his son I see his friendship being with Krillin bigger than his love by his son, thus Goku would not transform in SSJ and would be killed by Freeza, but that just my opinon, don't know if probably I'm exaggerating in my point of view.

- What do you mean?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by AS_Saiyan » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:52 pm

Noah wrote:
AS_Saiyan wrote:What if Freeza killed Gohan instead of Kuririn? How would it affect Goku vs Freeza fight and the rest of the series?
What if Chaozu had a real character?
- Sadly saying I can imagine Goku being pissed but not a lot like when Krillin died by such factors as: Gohan died, but he could be revived since it was his first death, even Gohan being his son I see his friendship being with Krillin bigger than his love by his son, thus Goku would not transform in SSJ and would be killed by Freeza, but that just my opinon, don't know if probably I'm exaggerating in my point of view.

- What do you mean?
-Interesting answer, thinking about it, it is a possibility, though it is also a possibility that he would have been even angrier from seeing his own son being blown up right in front of him.

-What if Chaozu really had depth to his character instead of being Tenshinhan sidekick who only yells "TEN!!" when Tenshinhan in danger?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lunatic Fringe » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:02 pm

It wouldn't make a difference as he never fit into the grand scheme of things as the series progresses. He'd have more fans but that's really about it. Oh and all the creepy TenxChaozu slash pics on deviantart wouldn't be so numerous. :sick:

What if Cell somehow managed to survive the Father/Son Kamehameha and was reconstructed with the same cybernetics given to Freeza?

What if Goku never had the Nyoi-bō?

What if Bra was born when Trunks was supposed to be?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by apex_pretador » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:01 am

Scarlet Spider wrote:What if Goten and Trunks tried to used Gotenks to get a girl/date and succeeded?
What if Goku told Chi-Chi he was going to train and wasn't taking no for an answer?
What if Gohan started training again with Piccolo and Pan?
What if King Cold was revived instead of Freeza?
What if Bra told Vegeta she had a crush on Goten?
- Awesome scenario will happen in a funny sequence.

- Happened in DBS

- Pan gets extremely strong, piccolo becomes stronger than buu, gohan remains same, he's full potential.

- He won't dare going to earth. He has no potential.

- Vegeta won't care.
FoolsGil wrote:What if during the battle for the Saiyans, Chaozu fought after Tenshinhan and got blown up instead of Yamcha?
Tenshinhan is theone to destroy saibamen, nothing else. Maybe nappa fight lasts longer.
AS_Saiyan wrote:What if Freeza killed Gohan instead of Kuririn? How would it affect Goku vs Freeza fight and the rest of the series?
Goku still goes super saiyan, and series goes the same.

Lunatic Fringe wrote:
What if Cell somehow managed to survive the Father/Son Kamehameha and was reconstructed with the same cybernetics given to Freeza?

What if Goku never had the Nyoi-bō?

What if Bra was born when Trunks was supposed to be?
He becomes weaker.

He still manages DB

A unique fusion. Bra & goten will marry later on, producing stronger half saiyan race.
Noah wrote:What if the humans (Krillin, Tenshinhan, Yamcha, Chaozu) trained with Whis?
They will still be useless. Maybe one of them gets a few moments to shine.
LightBing wrote:What if Goku didn't die in the Cell Games? Both him and Vegeta would train almost everyday until the 25th TB. Gohan does maintenance training, so he keeps his Cell Games power. How would the Boo change?
Goku and vegeta reach SS2, piccolo makes bigger gains, gohan gets surpassed , In the buu arc, piccolo kills dabura, saiyans kill babidi & henchmen. Buu never gets awake.
No majin vegeta.
Noah wrote:What if Goten and Trunks spend an entire day (one year) in RoSaT? What BP could they reach?
Below cell games goku, but gotenks will become much stronger, even above gohan as a SS3
Hellspawn28 wrote:What if Chaozu's suicidal attack against Nappa worked and Nappa died? How much would changed.
Vegeta kills tenshinhan , krillin , gohan , and waits for goku. Goku kills him, but no going to namek. He may not become Super saiyan. He and piccolo train as rivals, DBs revive everyone except krillin & chiatzu. When humans come back, they are stronger due to kai training. They all know kaioken, and they all train hard to train for WMAT. either goku or piccolo wins, while the other trains even harder. Eventually, #19 & #20 get released , and the things go similarly, but piccolo fuses with kami & kills them.
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If frieza ever tries to attack earth, piccolo, goku and gohan can stop him or earth gets blown.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Noah » Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:50 am

apex_pretador wrote:
LightBing wrote:What if Goku didn't die in the Cell Games? Both him and Vegeta would train almost everyday until the 25th TB. Gohan does maintenance training, so he keeps his Cell Games power. How would the Boo change?
Goku and vegeta reach SS2, piccolo makes bigger gains, gohan gets surpassed , In the buu arc, piccolo kills dabura, saiyans kill babidi & henchmen. Buu never gets awake.
No majin vegeta.
So... How does Goku's death have something to do with Piccolo improvement in Boo Arc?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Dec 09, 2015 1:32 am

Noah wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
LightBing wrote:What if Goku didn't die in the Cell Games? Both him and Vegeta would train almost everyday until the 25th TB. Gohan does maintenance training, so he keeps his Cell Games power. How would the Boo change?
Goku and vegeta reach SS2, piccolo makes bigger gains, gohan gets surpassed , In the buu arc, piccolo kills dabura, saiyans kill babidi & henchmen. Buu never gets awake.
No majin vegeta.
So... How does Goku's death have something to do with Piccolo improvement in Boo Arc?
Piccolo will try to improve more as the gap between him and his "rival" is increasing. Since even gohan is training, the drive for piccolo to train will be harder, and he won't give up on chasing saiyans. Given that how he makes bigger gains than saiyans in similar situations (a few exceptions exist) , I think he'll surpass PC by the tourney, and will want to fight both goku and vegeta at their best.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Khin » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:26 pm

What if Vegeta appeared in Movie 10 ?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:32 pm

He would prob kill broly. Since he was supposely a ssj2 then. However they would make Broly op and give the win to the Goku San family.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:43 pm

What if the piccolo could merge with the namekian dragon balls? Similar to what Goku did at the end of Gt. How powerful do you think he would become then?

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:14 pm

apex_pretador wrote:
Vegeta kills tenshinhan , krillin , gohan , and waits for goku. Goku kills him, but no going to namek. He may not become Super saiyan. He and piccolo train as rivals, DBs revive everyone except krillin & chiatzu. When humans come back, they are stronger due to kai training. They all know kaioken, and they all train hard to train for WMAT. either goku or piccolo wins, while the other trains even harder. Eventually, #19 & #20 get released , and the things go similarly, but piccolo fuses with kami & kills them.
No buu, no cell , no Freeza.
If Freeza ever tries to attack earth, piccolo, goku and gohan can stop him or earth gets blown.
Vegeta would likely kill Piccolo too if Chazou killed Nappa. Tien would have been the first to die from Vegeta. Gohan could hold off Vegeta for a while, but he would still die. Once Goku kills Vegeta then Goku is the only Z fighter left. He would be on Earth living with Chi Chi until he dies from the heart virus. #17 and #18 would just kill off everything. Cell won't be that strong without the DNA of Freeza and King Cold. I think Beerus and Whis would have end up killing Freeza later on if they ever meet with each other again.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by apex_pretador » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:04 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote:
Vegeta kills tenshinhan , krillin , gohan , and waits for goku. Goku kills him, but no going to namek. He may not become Super saiyan. He and piccolo train as rivals, DBs revive everyone except krillin & chiatzu. When humans come back, they are stronger due to kai training. They all know kaioken, and they all train hard to train for WMAT. either goku or piccolo wins, while the other trains even harder. Eventually, #19 & #20 get released , and the things go similarly, but piccolo fuses with kami & kills them.
No buu, no cell , no Freeza.
If Freeza ever tries to attack earth, piccolo, goku and gohan can stop him or earth gets blown.
Vegeta would likely kill Piccolo too if Chazou killed Nappa.
He won't.
He wanted to keep piccolo alive for info. about DB's. Even nappa didn't attempt to kill piccolo, he just got in the way. I doubt he could get in the way if blast was fired by vegeta to gohan.

Oh , and I just wanted some interesting scenario rather than "everyone dies" , so no heart virus in my scenario.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by apex_pretador » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:11 am

What if King cold decided to become ally with earthlings , helping them to kill mecha freeza and turning good, staying on earth to train for androids with others?

What if Tien and krillin used potara in cell games to become stronger than a cell Jr? How will buu arc change?

What if piccolo used last resort (kami fusion) to fight nappa and vegeta ( after wishing goku back, but before any death) ? How the series changes?

What if tien learnt fusion , and used multiform + fusion to fight in android and cell arc? Buu arc? tournament?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:53 am

What if King cold decided to become ally with earthlings , helping them to kill mecha freeza and turning good, staying on earth to train for androids with others?
He would have been left behind like the rest of the Z-Fighters who weren't Saiyan were by the time the Cell debuted.
What if Tenshinhan and krillin used potara in cell games to become stronger than a cell Jr? How will buu arc change?
I reckon Krillin and Tien Potara fused would have really given Cell Jr a run for his money. But against Perfect Cell and villain stronger, they've got no chance
What if piccolo used last resort (kami fusion) to fight nappa and vegeta ( after wishing goku back, but before any death) ? How the series changes?
Piccolo would wipe the floor wipe every villain up until Final Form Freeza, I reckon.
What if Tenshinhan learnt fusion , and used multiform + fusion to fight in android and cell arc? Buu arc? tournament?
Would be on the same level, or very close to, as Krillin/Tien Potara fused.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by omaro34 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:13 pm

What if Goku never let go of Raditz's tail and let Piccolo kill him with the Special Beam Cannon? This means Goku would live, but how would this change the series and future events? Would Vegeta and Nappa still come to Earth? Would Piccolo remain evil? Would there still be a Freeza saga? Would the Androids wipe everybody out? How would this change everything?
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Dec 14, 2015 2:19 pm

omaro34 wrote:What if Goku never let go of Raditz's tail and let Piccolo kill him with the Special Beam Cannon? This means Goku would live, but how would this change the series and future events? Would Vegeta and Nappa still come to Earth? Would Piccolo remain evil? Would there still be a Freeza saga? Would the Androids wipe everybody out? How would this change everything?
Raditz would still gloat about two stronger Saiyans coming to Earth to spite Goku and Piccolo because he's an evil prick like that. Piccolo would go off to train on his own and Goku would train Gohan. But ultimately because Goku doesn't die, he doesn't train with King Kai and doesn't learn the kaioken technique and when Vegeta and Nappa arrive, all of the Z-Fighters are slaughtered and the Earth is destroyed.

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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:27 pm

apex_pretador wrote: He won't.
He wanted to keep piccolo alive for info. about DB's. Even nappa didn't attempt to kill piccolo, he just got in the way. I doubt he could get in the way if blast was fired by vegeta to gohan.

Oh , and I just wanted some interesting scenario rather than "everyone dies" , so no heart virus in my scenario.
In a realistic way, Piccolo would have died anyways since Vegeta would have try to kill Gohan and Piccolo would have found away to sacrifice himself to save Gohan. Either way, Vegeta would have killed them off before Goku shows up.
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Re: General What-If thread

Post by Pocket-God » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:26 pm

What if Buu had gone with to right Frieza and his army?

I personally think the RoF saga would be finished already, he wouldn've turned the entire army into candy like he did to everyone in that city, the he would of proceeded to one-shot Tagoma, and more than likely beat the living hell out of Frieza before he could turn into his gold form :V

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