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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:45 am

Ajay wrote:New staff are out. I translated the supervisors for now:

#74
Script: King Ryuu
Director/Storyboard: Masanori Sato
Animation Supervisors: Tsutomo Ono & Yukihiro Kitano

#75
Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Director/Storyboard: Ryota Nakamura
Animation Supervisors: Shuuichiro Manabe & Koji Nashizawa

#76
Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Storyboard: Kohei Hatano
Director: Hideki Hiroshima
Animation Supervisor: Masahiro Shimanuki

#77
Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Director/Storyboard: Kazuya Karasawa
Animation Supervisor: Yoshitaka Yashima

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Feels good to nail both a Wanpack guy and Kitano for that guess on the previous page.


Feels good seeing yashima getting 8 weeks to animate for once! i also wanna see how Nashizawa's style looks like :p



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ArchedThunder wrote:Since I love doing this every time we get new staff listings, here are my predictions for 78 and beyond. I predict that most episodes will have supervisors given 8-12 weeks between each episode, similar to One Piece, and will usually have a single supervisor.
Assuming there are no breaks;
78 - Takamura (10 weeks since last episode. I don't think they'll make a habit of having him be the only supervisor on episodes, I think this will be the only one he does and after this he'll be on one or more of the below episodes as a secondary supervisor)
79 - Ishikawa (9 weeks since last episode)
80 - Itai (7 weeks since last episode)
81 - Karasawa (10 weeks since last episode, start of the action in the tournament, Shida shows up, episode is beautiful)
82 - Tate (11 weeks since last episode, episode is beautiful) and Wanpack(8 weeks since last episode)
83 - Kitano (9 weeks since last episode, Otsuka shows up, most of the action is conservative)
84 - Manabe (9 weeks since last episode, Miuma shows up)
85 - Nashizawa (10 weeks since last episode, all action is 100% conservative)
86 - Yashima (9 weeks since last episode, all action is 100% conservative)
87 - Shimanuki (11 weeks since last episode, a surprise animator shows up)

Maybe I predicted a little too far ahead =P
I'd love it if some more people would make their own predictions, I'm the only one who ever does.

I do wonder if we'll get any new Supervisors in this arc, or if any of those that left, like Toma, will return.

The supervisors are probably gonna get stuck together tbh with you :lol:

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:01 am

iAnimationLover_ wrote:
The supervisors are probably gonna get stuck together tbh with you :lol:
I have a good feeling from the 10 weeks between arcs and seeing 2 non Yashima filler episodes having a single supervisor. As I mentioned a few pages ago I don't think the show will suddenly be a Pokemon-like Sakuga filled series, but I think we're going to see the rough edges rounded down to bring the show up to at least a more average standard. More episodes like 54 and 59, fewer episodes like 62 and 67.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:05 am

#77 should be a Yashima solo. The arc will have a slow start I guess.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:10 am

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:The arc will have a slow start I guess.


Which is what a lot of people want, a slower pacing "The pacing is too fast ermg I'm dropping the series vegito ded fk trnks ;-;" overexaggerated xD

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:12 am

Yeah, the start will probably be a little slower like the Champa arc (that tournament started on the 6th episode of that arc). I do wonder how long this arc is going to be though, I'm going to guess it will end somewhere around episode 100, giving us more episodes than the last arc, but fewer than 30.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by dhaval_dongre » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:48 am

ArchedThunder wrote:Since I love doing this every time we get new staff listings, here are my predictions for 78 and beyond. I predict that most episodes will have supervisors given 8-12 weeks between each episode, similar to One Piece, and will usually have a single supervisor.
Assuming there are no breaks;
78 - Takamura (10 weeks since last episode. I don't think they'll make a habit of having him be the only supervisor on episodes, I think this will be the only one he does and after this he'll be on one or more of the below episodes as a secondary supervisor)
79 - Ishikawa (9 weeks since last episode)
80 - Itai (7 weeks since last episode)
81 - Karasawa (10 weeks since last episode, start of the action in the tournament, Shida shows up, episode is beautiful)
82 - Tate (11 weeks since last episode, episode is beautiful) and Wanpack(8 weeks since last episode)
83 - Kitano (9 weeks since last episode, Otsuka shows up, most of the action is conservative)
84 - Manabe (9 weeks since last episode, Miuma shows up)
85 - Nashizawa (10 weeks since last episode, all action is 100% conservative)
86 - Yashima (9 weeks since last episode, all action is 100% conservative)
87 - Shimanuki (11 weeks since last episode, a surprise animator shows up)

Maybe I predicted a little too far ahead =P
I'd love it if some more people would make their own predictions, I'm the only one who ever does.

I do wonder if we'll get any new Supervisors in this arc, or if any of those that left, like Toma, will return.

Bro you forgot Higashide :lol: I mean we might see him in consecutive episodes like we saw previously but there will definitely be one episode where his work shines through. It will be great to see him help out Kitano or Yashima or even Ishikawa because their episodes turn out to be too conservative at times in terms of animation, especially since we also have Otsuka, Shida and hopefully Miuma Kenji this time around. Also I won't mind Yamamuro doing an episode or two, because even though I don't care about him that much, it will be a great help for the show. Pairing him with Yashima or Kitano will be fine as well.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:51 am

dhaval_dongre wrote:
Bro you forgot Higashide :lol: I mean we might see him in consecutive episodes like we saw previously but there will definitely be one episode where his work shines through. It will be great to see him help out Kitano or Yashima or even Ishikawa because their episodes turn out to be too conservative at times in terms of animation, especially since we also have Otsuka, Shida and hopefully Miuma Kenji this time around. Also I won't mind Yamamuro doing an episode or two, because even though I don't care about him that much, it will be a great help for the show. Pairing him with Yashima or Kitano will be fine as well.
What do you mean I forgot him? He shows up so often I didn't see any need to list him anywhere. I mean I guess he might show up a little less often, but I think he'll still be showing up in a ton of episodes because his work really lightens the load for everyone on the show. Even if the schedule is pretty normal for this next arc it'll probably be a while before the show has a large enough stable of animators for Higashide to show up less often.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by dhaval_dongre » Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:00 am

ArchedThunder wrote: What do you mean I forgot him? He shows up so often I didn't see any need to list him anywhere. I mean I guess he might show up a little less often, but I think he'll still be showing up in a ton of episodes because his work really lightens the load for everyone on the show.
That's so true. :lol: Ya I guess that makes sense as well. But I think Nashizawa's or Kitano's episode will turn out great if we saw some thorough input from him since we have more capable animators helping out on a regular basis now. Because Higashide had too much to handle in the FT arc, and we didn't saw him in episodes like 62, where his input would have been really helpful. That aside, the lineup looks nice. Hope it turns out that way.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by coola » Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:37 am

As i rewatched Lord Slug movie, one part seemed very similar to Trunks vs Merged Zamasu, is there possibility same people worked on these scenes?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Gashif Aldi » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:21 am

coola wrote:<snip>
Well, maybe. But, the Trunks part was done by Ken Otsuka right?
Or, maybe the same Key Animator? If it is, it makes me wonder why he's still a Key Animator (Shida is an exception).

But I highly doubt it, that scene was animated poorly (the Zamasu one). It wasn't moving, like most of the scenes in episode 64. That scene does used some sort of trickery.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by JulieYBM » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:41 pm

coola wrote:As i rewatched Lord Slug movie, one part seemed very similar to Trunks vs Merged Zamasu, is there possibility same people worked on these scenes?
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I doubt any of them did that specific cut, but Shida Naotoshi, Shimanuki Masahiro, and Ide Takeo did indeed do key animation for Dragon Ball Z Movie #4. The director and storyboard artist for that film would have been Hashimoto Mitsuo, but he hasn't been involved with Dragon Ball since Dragon Ball GT Episode #58.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by iAnimationLover_ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:58 pm

coola wrote:As i rewatched Lord Slug movie, one part seemed very similar to Trunks vs Merged Zamasu, is there possibility same people worked on these scenes?
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Its probably just a coincidence. dont think too much of it : >

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 4:55 pm

That movie does have a lot of similarities to the last bits of the FT arc.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by FortuneSSJ » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:54 pm

Ajay wrote:New staff are out. I translated the supervisors for now:
[spoiler]#74
Script: King Ryuu
Director/Storyboard: Masanori Sato
Animation Supervisors: Tsutomo Ono & Yukihiro Kitano

#75
Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Director/Storyboard: Ryota Nakamura
Animation Supervisors: Shuuichiro Manabe & Koji Nashizawa

#76
Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Storyboard: Kohei Hatano
Director: Hideki Hiroshima
Animation Supervisor: Masahiro Shimanuki

#77
Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Director/Storyboard: Kazuya Karasawa
Animation Supervisor: Yoshitaka Yashima

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Feels good to nail both a Wanpack guy and Kitano for that guess on the previous page.[/spoiler]
You can always count on Yashima to solo an episode!
Shimanuki is doing it too when he can.

Feels like Toei wants Super to turn over a new leaf, with a new opening coming after 70+ episodes and all. Curious to see how all of this delay with fillers will pay off.

With the franchise making a lot of money and we getting closer to EOZ with Bra's birth, I wonder what will happen.
Will they keep the DBS brand or just start from new wtih a good production and new anime series?! Too soon to tell, but I can't stop thinking about that.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Jan 07, 2017 5:58 pm

SaiyanGod117 wrote:That movie does have a lot of similarities to the last bits of the FT arc.
That's actually a pretty common occurrence in shows that have gone on too long(/hint).
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:03 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote: You can always count on Yashima to solo an episode!
Shimanuki is doing it too when he can.

Feels like Toei wants Super to turn over a new leaf, with a new opening coming after 70+ episodes and all. Curious to see how all of this delay with fillers will pay off.

With the franchise making a lot of money and we getting closer to EOZ with Bra's birth, I wonder what will happen.
Will they keep the DBS brand or just start from new wtih a good production and new anime series?! Too soon to tell, but I can't stop thinking about that.
The Super brand has proven to be strong, so I think they'll hold on to it for a while. Super could run for like 4 more years and then end at the end of Z and then a new sequel series could pick up from there, or Super itself could go past the end of Z, I guess it all comes down to what they want to do. But they have successfully relaunched Dragon Ball with Super, so I wouldn't be surprised if the plan for now is to run Super as long as possible and try to make the Super brand as strong as Z.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:29 pm

There really wasn't anything standing out in the episode or anything great or bad that caught my eye. This was the epitome of a conservative and safe looking episode.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by ArchedThunder » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:31 pm

I'm really interested in seeing the staff list for this one, it really did feel like a solo episode to me.
NEP looks pretty solid.

EDIT: 4 people, so I was close.
This episode saw the return of Noel Ano-nuevo, the first time they've worked on super since episode 31, that's awesome!
Ending was soloed by Ide.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Ajay » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:36 pm

Episode 73

Animation supervisor
Itai Hiroyuki Noel Ano-nuevo

Key animator
Nikaido Atsushi Inaba Jin Itaii Hiroyuki Sugawara Rieko TAP

2nd key animator
Park Yi-nam Kwon Gyeong-ah Kim Ik-yeon

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Well, first things first, that new ending 'animation' is abysmal, and I'm mad because that song is so good. Oh well, Super will be Super. Ide's meh, too.

As for the episode, I guess I was just outright wrong with my uncredited Shimanuki assumption back in #64 because that same style popped up again, and it very clearly wasn't him. Most of the episode was full of Takeo Ide corrections. I wonder if it was Atsushi Nikaido's work?

I'd guess Itai, but that style wasn't prevalent enough for me to really think that. I dunno. I'll take a better look later.

Oh, and I guess hello to Ano-nuevo again. TAP's talent coming through!
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 72

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:38 pm

Ajay wrote:Well, first things first, that new ending 'animation' is abysmal, and I'm mad because that song is so good. Oh well, Super will be Super.
I thought the same thing, it's a shame. They were all still images so it's no excuse for everything to look so poor.

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