"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[BlueBasilisk]

hmmmm.. I remember people saying that the trademark of "fan-fiction" was the rehashing of old ideas in unoriginal ways...

Sounds like people misusing words again. The trademark of "fan-fiction" is being written by fans. The word has no value in determining the quality of a work since it applies to such a broad spectrum of things.

[Whatever]

hmmmm.. I remember people saying that the trademark of "fan-fiction" was the rehashing of old ideas in unoriginal ways...

You mean like Vegito Blue?Which was Toyotaro's idea?

[Kinokima]

hmmmm.. I remember people saying that the trademark of "fan-fiction" was the rehashing of old ideas in unoriginal ways...

Sounds like people misusing words again. The trademark of "fan-fiction" is being written by fans. The word has no value in determining the quality of a work since it applies to such a broad spectrum of things.

Exactly some fanfiction is really excellent. I wouldn't want Dragon Ball to change. I love it for what it is. But I read fan-fiction because it is able to take the characters in more complex and dramatic places that officially the series can't.

Like I am about to read a fan-fiction where the characters can't access their Ki and have to defeat an enemy without using their strength. Now obviously that is something that Dragon Ball the series can never do because well fights are par for the course. But it doesn't mean it isn't a fascinating concept for a story.

Bringing back Vegetto is hardly what I would call fanfiction. Fan fiction is for exploring ideas that can't really be done by official Dragon Ball (at least the type I enjoy reading).

[HeroR]

hmmmm.. I remember people saying that the trademark of "fan-fiction" was the rehashing of old ideas in unoriginal ways...

Sounds like people misusing words again. The trademark of "fan-fiction" is being written by fans. The word has no value in determining the quality of a work since it applies to such a broad spectrum of things.

Thank you. Acting like any common idea that has ever appeared in a fanfic automatically makes it a 'fanfic idea' is really dumb.

[Jigurashi]

Why is that? Because you think he is being made a joke of because he lost 3 arms?

Him having a 15 fight and being made to look bad against the sniper to bolster Tenshinhan is why, not to mention he hasn't done anything at all more than Tenshinhan either. Has nothing to do with some dumb joke but nice assuming that's the case. Piccolo can definitely be argued to have been treated just as badly if not worse than Ten in the ToP so far. Whether you want to believe it or not is irrelevant as my statement is a fact.

Wow, dude. The fact that Piccolo is even still in proves he has better treatment than Tien.


Him actually having a fight proves he has better treatment than tien.


Him getting a power boost proves he has better treatment than tien.



Tien is the only character who I can say was treated unfairly. Krillin at least had a good showing before he was knocked out and was avenged by the man who killed him....wait.

Hardly. He hasn't had a fight yet that makes what you're saying true. Even then, I never said Piccolo was treated worse, I said you can argue he's treated as badly and possibly worse which is true. ToP hasn't done much of anything for Piccolo so far. Piccolo's short moment against the Namekians isn't really all that much better than Tenshinhan taking out that guy Roshi helped him with.

[Liquir]

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[Jigurashi]

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Battle damaged SSB I finally get to have in the anime.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Not surprised at all that Goku may have to use SSJB again against Kafla. Kale in her SSJ Berseker form walked through a Kamehameha from SSJB Goku like it was nothing in Episode 100.

Apparently, in the next EP Goku will be able to face Kale (with his fully controlled Bersek form) and Caulifla SSJ2 at the same time. Nullifying this "impression" that Kale has the same level as the Goku SSB.

Anyway, people do not waste time and already criticize the Blue transformation, we do not even know if it will lose.
As I said on some other topics, this is the most hated transformation of all, anything is already a reason for this ...

Goku is still recovering (so theoretically the SSB is not in full power), and it is plausible Kefla to be at a level capable of at least rivaling Goku Blue, nothing wrong here

[HeroR]

Not surprised at all that Goku may have to use SSJB again against Kafla. Kale in her SSJ Berseker form walked through a Kamehameha from SSJB Goku like it was nothing in Episode 100.

Apparently, in the next EP Goku will be able to face Kale (with his fully controlled Bersek form) and Caulifla SSJ2 at the same time. Nullifying this "impression" that Kale has the same level as the Goku SSB.

Anyway, people do not waste time and already criticize the Blue transformation, we do not even know if it will lose.
As I said on some other topics, this is the most hated transformation of all, anything is already a reason for this ...

Goku is still recovering (so theoretically the SSB is not in full power), and it is plausible Kefla to be at a level capable of at least rivaling Goku Blue, nothing wrong here

She's in her control Super Saiyan form when fighting with Cali against Goku in the NEP. In fact, the only scene with Berserk Kale is her pushing Goku back, Goku shooting her with his foot, pushing her back, and her reverting to her controlled Super Saiyan form.

[Michsi]

Out of curiosity, when will the summaries for the next episodes be released? I just have this feeling Kafla isn't going to get eliminated in 115.

[namekiansaiyan]

Out of curiosity, when will the summaries for the next episodes be released? I just have this feeling Kafla isn't going to get eliminated in 115.

From monday onwards I think. Kafla is going maximum until the end of episode 116. This is way too long for Kale and Caulifla as it is.

[TheDipDap1234]

Out of curiosity, when will the summaries for the next episodes be released? I just have this feeling Kafla isn't going to get eliminated in 115.

Either Sunday or Monday since they usually come out on the 5th or 6th of the month.

I also don't think Kafla will go out just yet, at least not until she fights Jiren.

[CJStriker_CBR]

I'm just going to wait but these girls are going to be looked by many as one of the worst things super added aren't they?

No,they aren't

Indeed No they are not, they will only be hated in selective circles mainly on the Internet. As for the whole of Dragon Ball Fandom no one can say, I believe in Japan the Girls will be Far more liked then in the West. But I would not down a majority of fans in the West either, I believe most fans of Dragon Ball who don't engage in online talk regular will mostly be of mixed to ok views on the Girls and to add most of all the New Characters introduced in this arc and mostly the ones getting the Major Pushes right now (Caulifla, Kale, Ribrianne, Rozie, Toppo, Jiren and others).

Like I said before, the major dislike for the Girls and any new character in DBS at this point online is way not the majority of reality of what is likely going on, so don't take online dislike for characters are a mass view of what most fans might think, espically ones in the general public and in Japan.

[namekiansaiyan]

Out of curiosity, when will the summaries for the next episodes be released? I just have this feeling Kafla isn't going to get eliminated in 115.

Either Sunday or Monday since they usually come out on the 5th or 6th of the month.

I also don't think Kafla will go out just yet, at least not until she fights Jiren.

We won't have to wait that long then if she is that strong as there is no way he will sit there.

[Michsi]

From monday onwards I think. Kafla is going maximum until the end of episode 116. This is way too long for Kale and Caulifla as it is.

Either Sunday or Monday since they usually come out on the 5th or 6th of the month.

I also don't think Kafla will go out just yet, at least not until she fights Jiren.

Thanks!

That would leave us with around 6 or 7 episodes until the end of the year. Sounds like a reasonable amount if Goku's rematch with Jiren starts right after Kafla. Curious if it really will end with the year though. Might last longer than that.

[SansrivaaL]

She's in her control Super Saiyan form when fighting with Cali against Goku in the NEP. In fact, the only scene with Berserk Kale is her pushing Goku back, Goku shooting her with his foot, pushing her back, and her reverting to her controlled Super Saiyan form.

Thats not her controlled SSJ form like what she used earlier, Goku says she's able to control that fierce power hence becoming a true legendary SSJ or so thats what he says, it wouldnt make sense for Goku to praise her as a legendary SSJ if she was using her old plain SSJ that he just fought seconds ago.

[namekiansaiyan]

From monday onwards I think. Kafla is going maximum until the end of episode 116. This is way too long for Kale and Caulifla as it is.

Either Sunday or Monday since they usually come out on the 5th or 6th of the month.

I also don't think Kafla will go out just yet, at least not until she fights Jiren.

Thanks!

That would leave us with around 6 or 7 episodes until the end of the year. Sounds like a reasonable amount if Goku's rematch with Jiren starts right after Kafla. Curious if it really will end with the year though. Might last longer than that.

If the second half is as long as the first half then it will end at the start of February with then a few extra episodes for the wish and for Frieza.

[TheMikado]

hmmmm.. I remember people saying that the trademark of "fan-fiction" was the rehashing of old ideas in unoriginal ways...

You mean like Vegito Blue?Which was Toyotaro's idea?

Exactly like that!

Bring Vegetto back was hot garbage.
The fusion expiration time was/is hot garbage.
SSBxKK is hot garbage.

of course everyone is entitled to their opinions but I expressed from the beginning I had no desire for them to rehash the potara fusion when you have a much more flexible and less permanent method of fusion.
Plus I hope we don't start a trend where we get a ton of "fusions" as this will start to feel more like Digimon than Dragonball. But that kind of stuff is popular with kids and selling toys so who knows...

[HeroR]

Thats not her controlled SSJ form like what she used earlier, Goku says she's able to control that fierce power hence becoming a true legendary SSJ or so thats what he says, it wouldnt make sense for Goku to praise her as a legendary SSJ if she was using her old plain SSJ that he just fought seconds ago.

You see in the NEP that she's only Berserk up to the point that Goku blast her with her foot and then she reverts. After that, she's clearly not in her Berserk form anymore when she's fighting with Cali. Which is usually the case when the NEP is hiding something.

[Dbzfan94]

but still at least its a fight, its better than having a filler in between where we get Goten,Trunks and Yamcha doing Yogi Bear jobs.

To be honest I'd rather see Goten/Trunks/Marron/Yamcha than see another whole episode dedicated to the girls.