Fan Works Explosion

[dbzfan7]

Spoiler:

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Goku-tran ... -525984808

Loving it, and no SSJ4 in sight? Progress.

Progress indeed. Dragon Ball fans everywhere now don't have to think hard to create no more. Fans of the past are justified and shouldn't have been mocked for their fan forms.

[dbgtFO]

Some stuff by Toviorogers
Be aware some images in his gallery are nsfw.

http://toviorogers.deviantart.com/art/T ... -489574178

Spoiler:

http://toviorogers.deviantart.com/art/F ... -426160907

http://toviorogers.deviantart.com/art/l ... -460712586


http://toviorogers.deviantart.com/art/S ... -485690844

[Lord Beerus]

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Goku-tran ... -525984808

Holy shit, that is amazing.

Suddenly SSGSS, seems to fit in like a glove.

[Polyphase Avatron]

^ Except that kind of stretches the definitions of the "C" part of "OC." Actually, no, that's being way too generous--not so much "kind of a stretch" as "yeah, no, that doesn't even remotely count as a character."

Ah the stupidity of fans making their own characters.

You've got to love how ridiculous some of them can get.

[Lord Beerus]

[Dyno]

Beautiful!

Need to know its artist, and ask such a masterpiece like this for Gine as well.

[DarkPrince_92]

I love that Bulma (aside from those creepy eyes). And that Nappa/Vegeta duo. Really nice.

[BlazingBarrrager]

Spoiler:

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Goku-tran ... -525984808

Loving it, and no SSJ4 in sight? Progress.

Progress indeed. Dragon Ball fans everywhere now don't have to think hard to create no more. Fans of the past are justified and shouldn't have been mocked for their fan forms.

The problem with fan forms is that a great deal of them are either remakes of canon ones (like SSJ God), overpowered, ridiculous, or all of the above. Not all of them are that way mind you, but fans generally try to go very far in making their character stand out above the rest.

[Saiga]

The problem with fan forms is that a great deal of them are either remakes of canon ones (like SSJ God), overpowered, ridiculous, or all of the above. Not all of them are that way mind you, but fans generally try to go very far in making their character stand out above the rest.

You can pretty easily argue that the new official forms fall under "all of the above".

[Pantalones]

Ah the stupidity of fans making their own characters.

...did you read the wiki page from that link?

"Fans making their own characters" is not the problem there...

[BlazingBarrrager]

The problem with fan forms is that a great deal of them are either remakes of canon ones (like SSJ God), overpowered, ridiculous, or all of the above. Not all of them are that way mind you, but fans generally try to go very far in making their character stand out above the rest.

You can pretty easily argue that the new official forms fall under "all of the above".

It's a bit between opinion and how DBZ works. At least these new forms don't make Goku/Vegeta the strongest beings in the series since Beerus and Whis (and Freeza to some extent) still 1-up them. I personally love the new forms and completely glad that they give Goku/Vegeta the means to fight someone like Beerus without being completely outmatched (like what happened with SSJ3).

Ah the stupidity of fans making their own characters.

...did you read the wiki page from that link?

"Fans making their own characters" is not the problem there...

I know that because I have my own FC. The problem is how many poor choice the creators make based on their own interests.

[dbzfan7]

The problem with fan forms is that a great deal of them are either remakes of canon ones (like SSJ God), overpowered, ridiculous, or all of the above. Not all of them are that way mind you, but fans generally try to go very far in making their character stand out above the rest.

You can pretty easily argue that the new official forms fall under "all of the above".

Yep. Easy to obtain for our heroes, super convenient power up dwarfing even the Elder Kaioshin one, super overpowered, and looking just like past images of deviantart.

[Noah]

Realistic DB

[BlazingBarrrager]

The problem with fan forms is that a great deal of them are either remakes of canon ones (like SSJ God), overpowered, ridiculous, or all of the above. Not all of them are that way mind you, but fans generally try to go very far in making their character stand out above the rest.

You can pretty easily argue that the new official forms fall under "all of the above".

Yep. Easy to obtain for our heroes, super convenient power up dwarfing even the Elder Kaioshin one, super overpowered, and looking just like past images of deviantart.

Yet has a time limit, requires 5 Saiyans with righteous hearts, and isn't completely stable. Also don't give me that bulls**t about it being an easy power-up that the heroes needed, because SSJ worked the same way with Goku the first time against Freeza after he was completely exhausted. Also, the "instant power-up without training" crap is probably just something with Goku and Vegeta, because if that was the case than the original SSJ God would have easily dominated that war against the Evil Saiyans even after the form wore off. As for the blue SSJ, well it's basically the SSJ2 to God Form. Yeah it's a blue SSJ design, but honestly SSJ2 was somewhat the same to the point where some people had a hard time telling between the two with characters like Vegeta and Gotenks.

SSJ4, meanwhile, is broken. Doesn't look ANYTHNG like the past Super Saiyan forms (or the users base form for that matter), only requires mastering Golden Ozzaru (which in itself only requires SSJ and a tail), can be used without training after obtaining it, and defies the power of a wish done by Ultimate Shenron by somehow making Goku an adult again and restoring his clothes when reverting. Also people are apparently fine with the fanmade SSJ5 as well. :/

[Saiga]

Super Saiyan God has a time limit, but lasts longer than the far weaker Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks... if it even wears off at all, because it barely made a difference for Goku. The Saiyan requirement isn't much of a drawback, and was easily gotten around in the movie. The stability issue has already been made moot.

You're making big assumptions on Super Saiyan 4, by saying it only requires Super Saiyan and a tail. And controlling the Oozaru at least takes more conscious effort than accidentally absorbing God power.

[dbzfan7]

You can pretty easily argue that the new official forms fall under "all of the above".

Yep. Easy to obtain for our heroes, super convenient power up dwarfing even the Elder Kaioshin one, super overpowered, and looking just like past images of deviantart.

Yet has a time limit, requires 5 Saiyans with righteous hearts, and isn't completely stable. Also don't give me that bulls**t about it being an easy power-up that the heroes needed, because SSJ worked the same way with Goku the first time against Freeza after he was completely exhausted. Also, the "instant power-up without training" crap is probably just something with Goku and Vegeta, because if that was the case than the original SSJ God would have easily dominated that war against the Evil Saiyans even after the form wore off. As for the blue SSJ, well it's basically the SSJ2 to God Form. Yeah it's a blue SSJ design, but honestly SSJ2 was somewhat the same to the point where some people had a hard time telling between the two with characters like Vegeta and Gotenks.

SSJ4, meanwhile, is broken. Doesn't look ANYTHNG like the past Super Saiyan forms (or the users base form for that matter), only requires mastering Golden Ozzaru (which in itself only requires SSJ and a tail), can be used without training after obtaining it, and defies the power of a wish done by Ultimate Shenron by somehow making Goku an adult again and restoring his clothes when reverting. Also people are apparently fine with the fanmade SSJ5 as well. :/

A time limit that conveniently can be bypassed to allow a form BEYOND FUSION AND POTARA! to last as long as the user wants! It also can be used with Super Special Awesome Blueness to completely bypass any weakness it could have had to be super incredibly broken. Now there's no drawbacks what so ever. We're moments away from SUPER AWESOME SPECIAL GOD TARBLE YEAAAH! Not to mention if you don't absorb the power your first try, then try again cause nothing says they can't try again and again til the power is absorbed. Hooray for super exploitation.

Hardly any saiyan can go SSJ as they were a weak species to begin with. Only a few ever being something out of the hundreds. Keeping control of a monkey form that only the elite could ever do, that being Vegeta. Bypassing Shenlong is nothing new. He can't effect people who are stronger than his creator. Ultimate Shenlong alone makes no sense as he shouldn't be able to affect Goku period. Like how Shenlong can't just pluck Goku and force him back to earth, Ultimate Shenlong shouldn't be able to affect the vastly more powerful Goku. Clothing may be dumb but do you want to stare at Goku's penis? SSJ is random gold. SSJ God is random red. SSGSS is random blue. SSJ4 at least has creativity in it whether over done or not. Better than "oh hey I took 20 seconds to think of skinny red head and 5 seconds to think of blue SSJ."

Super Saiyan God has a time limit, but lasts longer than the far weaker Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks... if it even wears off at all, because it barely made a difference for Goku. The Saiyan requirement isn't much of a drawback, and was easily gotten around in the movie. The stability issue has already been made moot.

You're making big assumptions on Super Saiyan 4, by saying it only requires Super Saiyan and a tail. And controlling the Oozaru at least takes more conscious effort than accidentally absorbing God power.

All of this.

[BlazingBarrrager]

You're saying that SSJ God and BlueSSJ are simple recolors that lack creativity. Sure. Sure. But wait! Maybe that's what Akira Toriyama wanted to do. Wasn't his aim to keep these forms as close to the user's own appearance as possible? I mean for Kami sakes he designed SSJ3 and the first drafts of Broli's Legendary SSJ form. He could have easily done something more complicated, but chose not to. As for its power, again it was unstable. He didn't know how to use it effectively until after his fight with Beerus and his training with Whis. The blue SSJ form is a result of that training like how SSJ2 is the result of training with SSJ. Also, the whole "spam the form until you absorb its power" argument of yours is complete BS. It was Goku's body who absorbed the power. It wasn't intentional, and Goku didn't even notice it when Beerus pointed it out. Hell the entire concept of Super Saiyan God itself was only truly known by Shenron himself. Not even King Kai knew about its existence. Oh, but Elder Kai somehow knew about Super Saiyan 4 and was training Goku to achieve the form, which is a bunch of BS in itself (and throws your whole "weak, Saiyan that can't go SSJ easily out the window). Oh and the kicker? This is coming from a Kai that has been sealed in a freaken sword for Kami knows how long. Also, SSJ God still requires training to use its power properly and achieve the blue haired SSJ. SSJ4 simply requires controlling your monkey form via a cheap drama scene and is usable outside the box once achieved. Hell SSJ4 didn't even suffer the same problem Freeza's Golden Form did when it came to not being used to it, and again it defies reality for some BS reason. I don't see SSJ God or the blue haired Super Saiyan breaking the laws of reality by turning a child back into a full grown adult.

Anyway, this is not the place to be arguing this shit. Let's get back to see some more fanart.

[TheGmGoken]

bocodamondo


SSGSSJ is Super Saiyan 6

[dbzfan7]

You're saying that SSJ God and BlueSSJ are simple recolors that lack creativity. Sure. Sure. But wait! Maybe that's what Akira Toriyama wanted to do. Wasn't his aim to keep these forms as close to the user's own appearance as possible? I mean for Kami sakes he designed SSJ3 and the first drafts of Broli's Legendary SSJ form. He could have easily done something more complicated, but chose not to. As for its power, again it was unstable. He didn't know how to use it effectively until after his fight with Beerus and his training with Whis. The blue SSJ form is a result of that training like how SSJ2 is the result of training with SSJ. Also, the whole "spam the form until you absorb its power" argument of yours is complete BS. It was Goku's body who absorbed the power. It wasn't intentional, and Goku didn't even notice it when Beerus pointed it out. Hell the entire concept of Super Saiyan God itself was only truly known by Shenron himself. Not even King Kai knew about its existence. Oh, but Elder Kai somehow knew about Super Saiyan 4 and was training Goku to achieve the form, which is a bunch of BS in itself (and throws your whole "weak, Saiyan that can't go SSJ easily out the window). Oh and the kicker? This is coming from a Kai that has been sealed in a freaken sword for Kami knows how long. Also, SSJ God still requires training to use its power properly and achieve the blue haired SSJ. SSJ4 simply requires controlling your monkey form via a cheap drama scene and is usable outside the box once achieved. Hell SSJ4 didn't even suffer the same problem Freeza's Golden Form did when it came to not being used to it, and again it defies reality for some BS reason. I don't see SSJ God or the blue haired Super Saiyan breaking the laws of reality by turning a child back into a full grown adult.

Anyway, this is not the place to be arguing this shit. Let's get back to see some more fanart.

Yeah it's super lazy and people who made fun of those who did those fan forms are glorifying Toriyama for doing it now. It's ridiculous. Not everyone did Golden SSJ4, and several people did exactly what Bloku is. Yet Toriyama gets the praise, and the fan artists are looked down upon.

It was not unstable at all. It was timed. It's nothing like high levels of Kaio-Ken which were unstable. It was never even mentioned possible to go beyond the time limit til suddenly POOF, now it can. Doesn't matter if Goku didn't realize he got it, any living saiyan now in their down time can master SSJ God with the proof being Vegeta. We could have SSJ God Gohan, Goten, Trunks, and Tarble no problem as nothing says they can't just do the happy fun time circle over and over til they absorb the forms power. Vegeta himself could have taken several tries before he got it, we don't know. It's the most bullshit power up ever. It's so powerful it DWARFS ALL FORMS OF FUSION! Combining bodies is weaker than this form. The Overpowered Vegetto is dwarfed, and he's literally meant to be end game overpowered monster. Oh but hey it's ok when Freeza knows he could train all this time to get super powerful, and King Cold to know of Beerus and Boo...but Kaioshin for SSJ4..now that's where the line is drawn. I ain't excusing Kaioshin knowing about SSJ4 being dumb since he didn't seem to really know SSJ itself, but SSJ God and it's sequel are even further broken than SSJ4 which is then SHOEHORNED into the story by FREEZA recently who didn't even know of it's existence in the manga. You need a strong body to contain SSJ4. Just having SSJ and a tail isn't enough. Even so that whole thing is complete speculation and never confirmed nor stated. For SSJ God it doesn't matter how strong you are. Tarble can be one, and literally a weakling saiyan of the past can be an SSJ God without even needing Super Saiyan.

[Drayenko]

Nothing says they can't just do the happy fun time circle over and over til they absorb the forms power. Vegeta himself could have taken several tries before he got it, we don't know. It's the most bullshit power up ever. It's so powerful it DWARFS ALL FORMS OF FUSION!

This is everything Dragon Ball isn't and everything that the movies are.

I can't even argue anymore about this new stuff. It's so completely stupid, that... whatever.