Unpopular DB opinions

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I think the Boo arc is the best in the series, whiplash plot redirection and all, but I do feel certain moments are better presented in the anime.

I definitely think it looks better in the anime, but I can't think of any way the plot turns out better.

[Cipher]

I definitely think it looks better in the anime, but I can't think of any way the plot turns out better.

I'd have to go through both again to really justify that statement, but off the top of my head, I think the episode building up to Goku and Vegeta's fusion really benefits from the extra breathing room.

For the first half of the arc, aside from all the fun Toei has with the extended Saiyaman material, I'd say the manga comes out on top. Closer to the end, there are more and more moments I think benefit from being slightly more fleshed out.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I definitely think it looks better in the anime, but I can't think of any way the plot turns out better.

I'd have to go through both again to really justify that statement, but off the top of my head, I think the episode building up to Goku and Vegeta's fusion really benefits from the extra breathing room.

I'm actually torn on that one. On one hand, the anime compliments Vegeta's reluctance well, but one the other, Boo's actions don't make much sense, he's practically begging them to fuse with the time he wasted, yet he seems adamantly opposed to their union. Such is the nature of filler. I definitely lean towards the manga version, even if the build-up wasn't all it could have been. Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that the anime version of Vegetto's birth was followed by an entire boring, ugly filler episode in which literally nothing relevant happens.

[Anime Kitten]

...an entire boring, ugly filler episode in which literally nothing relevant happens.

Well, to be completely fair, that is what filler is meant for! Getting nothing done!

[TheOverlyMadHatter]

I honestly enjoy GT. Nearly as much as DB/Z? No, but the show gets so much undue flack, and there are plenty of excellent character moments and concepts, some if the best in the entire franchise.

Also, I think might have mentioned waaaaaay back when this thread opened, but I actually very much enjoyed DBZ Movie 11. More so than Movies 4-8. They follow the same tired formula from Movie 3, and it quickly becomes stale. Yes, we get Broly for the third time, and it isn't even really him, but this movie has so much more personality than most. We get to see B-tier characters shine, the choreagraphy is kick-ass, espcially Goten and Trunks tag-teaming Bio-Broly, Krillin (in his last movie appearance before BoG) is more than just loloneshot comic-relief, and it's Kid Trunks of all people who figures out a way to outdo the villain strategically and it works. Honestly, if we're talking stricly 90's Z movies, this one's in my top 5.

[precita]

While the Boo arc is my favorite in the series, whiplash plot redirection and all, but I do feel certain moments are better presented in the anime. Toriyama is almost a little too brisk, and Toei was absolutely nailing it at the time.

You can say this about any saga, except the Freeza arc.

The Saiyan saga in the anime benefited so much more by all the training filler with Gohan in the wilderness, Goku's adventures in Snake Way, and even seeing Krillin and the other humans train on Kami's palace and battle those Saiyans in the past. I'm always surprised when I read the manga and the "1 year of training for the Saiyans" literally goes by in a page.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

The Saiyan saga in the anime benefited so much more by all the training filler with Gohan in the wilderness, Goku's adventures in Snake Way, and even seeing Krillin and the other humans train on Kami's palace and battle those Saiyans in the past. I'm always surprised when I read the manga and the "1 year of training for the Saiyans" literally goes by in a page.

On the flip side, the development of the characters in the manga is conveyed better over the course of the battle itself. The route Toriyama took isn't the way I would have gone, but it worked out just fine.

[Android 50]

I honestly enjoy GT. Nearly as much as DB/Z? No, but the show gets so much undue flack, and there are plenty of excellent character moments and concepts, some if the best in the entire franchise.

Also, I think might have mentioned waaaaaay back when this thread opened, but I actually very much enjoyed DBZ Movie 11. More so than Movies 4-8. They follow the same tired formula from Movie 3, and it quickly becomes stale. Yes, we get Broly for the third time, and it isn't even really him, but this movie has so much more personality than most. We get to see B-tier characters shine, the choreagraphy is kick-ass, espcially Goten and Trunks tag-teaming Bio-Broly, Krillin (in his last movie appearance before BoG) is more than just loloneshot comic-relief, and it's Kid Trunks of all people who figures out a way to outdo the villain strategically and it works. Honestly, if we're talking stricly 90's Z movies, this one's in my top 5.

I also didn't mind GT that much and I think it gets a bit too much flack. As for Movie 11 I thought it was decent too and nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be. I think I enjoyed it just as much as the others.

[Gaffer Tape]

Also, I think might have mentioned waaaaaay back when this thread opened, but I actually very much enjoyed DBZ Movie 11. More so than Movies 4-8. They follow the same tired formula from Movie 3, and it quickly becomes stale. Yes, we get Broly for the third time, and it isn't even really him, but this movie has so much more personality than most. We get to see B-tier characters shine, the choreagraphy is kick-ass, espcially Goten and Trunks tag-teaming Bio-Broly, Krillin (in his last movie appearance before BoG) is more than just loloneshot comic-relief, and it's Kid Trunks of all people who figures out a way to outdo the villain strategically and it works. Honestly, if we're talking stricly 90's Z movies, this one's in my top 5.

I don't know if I'd put it in my top 5 (but maybe I would... I'd have to think about it), but, yeah, I think Movie 11 is definitely one of the better DBZ movies. I haven't watched it in a while, so I'll be interested to see if it still holds up. But considering how boring and same-y a lot of those are, Movie 11 is one of the biggest breaths of fresh air. (Granted, I still think Movie 10 is better.)

[TheOverlyMadHatter]

I don't know if I'd put it in my top 5 (but maybe I would... I'd have to think about it), but, yeah, I think Movie 11 is definitely one of the better DBZ movies. I haven't watched it in a while, so I'll be interested to see if it still holds up. But considering how boring and same-y a lot of those are, Movie 11 is one of the biggest breaths of fresh air. (Granted, I still think Movie 10 is better.)

It does seem like Movie 10 is the point where they decided to step it up when it comes to the writing. At least, I think so.

[Lord Frieza]

I.....Like....(spite up blood)...."cough"....the Garlic Jr. and Copy-Vegeta arcs......

Garlic Jr. arc I've always enjoyed and I don't now why and I like the Copy-Veget stuff because I find the concept interesting.

[kinisking]

I.....Like....(spite up blood)...."cough"....the Garlic Jr. and Copy-Vegeta arcs......

Garlic Jr. arc I've always enjoyed and I don't now why and I like the Copy-Veget stuff because I find the concept interesting.

Same, I don't know why people hated them so much.

[TheGreatness25]

I've got a couple of unpopular opinions.

The first is that I didn't see what was so amazing about the Level sets. Yeah, they were in 4x3, but I didn't find anything on them to look crazy good.

The next is that I actually like the Blu-ray DBZ season sets. I find the images to be really well done on them. I think that Funimation Now has switched over to that Blu-ray footage (though I can't confirm for sure) because I'm going through the first couple of arcs (for a project of mine where I need the dub subtitles which are only available on Funimation Now) and the picture quality looks a lot better than what I remember the orange bricks to be. It looks Kai-ish.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

The first is that I didn't see what was so amazing about the Level sets. Yeah, they were in 4x3, but I didn't find anything on them to look crazy good.

Other than the Dragon Boxes, they're the best looking version of the show that's ever been released. Moreover, it was in 1080p HD, meaning that in the long run, they would hold up even better than the Boxes. Granted, neither the Boxes nor the Levels look all that fantastic due to the fact that Dragon Ball isn't a great looking show to begin with, but those releases are gold compared to everything else we've ever gotten.

Not sure where the confusion is.

[kinisking]

Let me just shoot them off:
Gotenks is the best fusion

Gogeta>Vegetto

Yamcha's a good fighter. Kami says so himself in the 23rd martial arts tournament. He just got put into bad situations.

DB super is the funniest dragonball series

Hit should become Goku's rival instead of Vegeta.

Vegeta,Gohan, Piccolo, Goten or whoever don't need to beat a main villian. Leave the main villians for the main character.

[rereboy]

The first is that I didn't see what was so amazing about the Level sets. Yeah, they were in 4x3, but I didn't find anything on them to look crazy good.

Other than the Dragon Boxes, they're the best looking version of the show that's ever been released. Moreover, it was in 1080p HD, meaning that in the long run, they would hold up even better than the Boxes. Granted, neither the Boxes nor the Levels look all that fantastic due to the fact that Dragon Ball isn't a great looking show to begin with, but those releases are gold compared to everything else we've ever gotten.

Not sure where the confusion is.

Also, some preferred how the color looked on the Levels. Myself included.

[Gog]

I believe that the Golden form is the best transformation that the arcosians got besides the original four, the fifth form was intimating and well designed but ultimately amounted to nothing, the sixth form from dragon ball multiverse is an abomination.

But the golden form was just right.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I believe that the Golden form is the best transformation that the arcosians got besides the original four, the fifth form was intimating and well designed but ultimately amounted to nothing, the sixth form from dragon ball multiverse is an abomination.

But the golden form was just right.

My favorite was Cold's design. I wasn't a fan of any of Freeza's looks, and I thought that Cooler's 5th form was just okay.

If we're getting into the extended franchise, I liked some of Xenoverse's designs for Freeza's race a lot more than anything we saw in the original material.

[Gog]

I believe that the Golden form is the best transformation that the arcosians got besides the original four, the fifth form was intimating and well designed but ultimately amounted to nothing, the sixth form from dragon ball multiverse is an abomination.

But the golden form was just right.

My favorite was Cold's design. I wasn't a fan of any of Freeza's looks, and I thought that Cooler's 5th form was just okay.

If we're getting into the extended franchise, I liked some of Xenoverse's designs for Freeza's race a lot more than anything we saw in the original material.

You mean King Cold in the second form? Cooler's fifth form was too spiky.

Never liked any of the Arcosians in Dragon ball hero's looked to much like pokemon

[kinisking]

4th form, golden and cooler's 5th are beautiful. As Jinzoningen Mule said, the xenoverse Freeza designs are better than Freeza's himself though.