"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[TekTheNinja]

It might sound surprising, but I think it is alright if you don't like a character and they are not by the old saying ~ your cup of tea, it happens and that what makes fandom unique.

However, the point that is surprising is when many just can't stop talking about how they don't like a character for the same reasons over and over again.

The problem comes with those characters being focused on instead of the character we do like. Personally, EVERY CHARACTER that I liked in this tournament other than Roshi has been shafted or is getting shafted, such as the entire universe 6 team from the universe 6 tournament being knocked out without accomplishing much at all, and the Trio de Dangers along with the rest of universe 9 getting bodied in one episode by Goku and Vegeta alone. Everyone I've actually been interested in seeing is a nobody and everyone who's "not my cup of tea" gets all the focus in the world, so yeah. I complain about them.

[CJStriker_CBR]

It might sound surprising, but I think it is alright if you don't like a character and they are not by the old saying ~ your cup of tea, it happens and that what makes fandom unique.

However, the point that is surprising is when many just can't stop talking about how they don't like a character for the same reasons over and over again.

The problem comes with those characters being focused on instead of the character we do like. Personally, EVERY CHARACTER that I liked in this tournament other than Roshi has been shafted or is getting shafted, such as the entire universe 6 team from the universe 6 tournament being knocked out without accomplishing much at all, and the Trio de Dangers along with the rest of universe 9 getting bodied in one episode by Goku and Vegeta alone. Everyone I've actually been interested in seeing is a nobody and everyone who's "not my cup of tea" gets all the focus in the world, so yeah. I complain about them.

I honestly Agree with you, more time should be given to as many as can be and really if that means the ToP arc needed to be made longer to make this so, make it more complex so that others that are both New and Classic characters get time to shine then that is what Toei should have done. If it makes the arc go until the summer of 2018 and not the late winter of 2018 or even longer I be fine with that and it would be the justifiable approach to storytelling if I was at the least bit influential with how Toei tells it stories.

Indeed being bitter at Toei for not doing this makes sense, I feel they wasted much opportunity with both new and classic characters that they could have easily giving more time too. They needed not rushed it on ending the ToP at a certain date like they needed to make it an strange 48 min long fight that means really nothing. When you have the opportunity to make something grant and include so many classic characters the answer should be to go all-out in making that work, spend time on them and make the arc longer if need be, fans will accept this and a longer arc if we know that is what you are going for.

It is hard to say if getting rid of any of these new characters would have solved that problem, I am a Piccolo Fan and want more development for him but I am not certain if it would help or not. New characters need time to develop if we are going to care about them being their, that is certain, but Toei should have given more time to classics as well and other new characters.

Their was so much creativity that could have been put into them, but in the end only Toei writers and head can tell you why this was, I just don't think taking some new characters away would have solved this, only Toei being more proactive, creative and making this arc longer could have.

[Spider-Man]

I highly doubt that these leaks are real,I'm going to wait for Herms.

Also if this leak are real then they focused way too much on the same character,can Universe 3 get some focus already,are the other Universe are not allowed to have character development or can they at least focus on Toppo as well.

[Dbzfan94]

I don't think they're real. I HOPE they're not real. I want Kafla gone in 115 or at least early 116.

[CJStriker_CBR]

It isn't ironic how much this fandom hates Ribranne and yet she could be getting TWO, count 'em, TWO episodes dedicated to her?

I'm super hyped to see all the meltdowns. These next few months should be glorious.

Comment like these are freaking me out,why do so many user have a vile fascination on a character being tortured or enjoys knee jerking reaction.

As for the episode leak,there a chance they will make brianne more than a one note parody character knowing this is toei,there gonna overplay the magical girl joke up to 11,if it happens,brianne will be there in my least favorite character list.

While fans like Me have enjoyed what I have gotten out of Brianne and the Girls so far, I do agree they need far more development in them to be greater characters we care more about, espically for fans not use to or interested in their style of characters. I believe that Toei is going take the similar route with Brianne like they did recently with Caulifla and Kale and get more into personal development now that we got out of the basic intros to their themes and ideals on the surface/face.

This will take a traditional Sailor Moon/Magical Girl story route, but for anyone that knows even one of those stories those get more complex and more epic as we get into the 3rd act of them, time will tell, but I think that is where Toei is going.

It seems too that the ToP seems to be taking story allot more differently since the end of the special, before it seemed rushed to get as much out of ever Universe they can and just tell us the basics, but since the special they have slowed down for more personal development with the likes of Cabba, Vegeta, Kale and Caulifla as starts. I think since their is going to be less and less fighters in this as time goes on the ones that remain longer will get more personal stories and development and that will be a good thing overall if Toei tells is right.

[CJStriker_CBR]

It isn't ironic how much this fandom hates Ribranne and yet she could be getting TWO, count 'em, TWO episodes dedicated to her?

I'm super hyped to see all the meltdowns. These next few months should be glorious.

It might sound surprising, but I think it is alright if you don't like a character and they are not by the old saying ~ your cup of tea, it happens and that what makes fandom unique.

However, the point that is surprising is when many just can't stop talking about how they don't like a character for the same reasons over and over again when many of those reasons just seem to be on the fact that she is in the middle of development.

All together time wise Ribrianne is only at the very beginning throws of her character development yet some seem to declare her not good already and done but that is getting ahead of ourselves. Caulifla and Kale got similar treatment and it seems storyteller and development from episodes 112-114 has help them greatly, not all but enough. It means that fans need to remember a little humility and know that characters are not done being created until their opening arc of who they are is over and for Ribrianne, Rozie, Caulifla, Kale and I will even say Toppo and Jiren, that is not until the end of the ToP arc and by what I heard that is not until March 2018, so we have allot of development to go and Fans need to give new characters time to develop by the ideals the storytellers set out for them.

Yeah, I agree. I don't like Ribrianne at all either but I can appreciate the fact that she's getting development for the fans that do.

Indeed and that is how it is, some characters are not your thing and that is how it goes, but if fans, like you are being, can see the ideal that for others like Me and others this is what we hope to see and appreciated the develop She and others we like get that ends up being well done or done good enough then that is a good view to have.

It is also good to have since it might end up changing ones mind of a character when you are like that, it has for me many times.

[Lord Beerus]

I'm not going to entertain the "spoiled episode titles", because we've been down this road before.

In other news, Toei continues to make a lot of money.

[Venus]

Try not to get too bent out of shape until we have scans and reliable translations. Fake titles and spoilers always pop up around this time of the month.

It isn't ironic how much this fandom hates Ribranne and yet she could be getting TWO, count 'em, TWO episodes dedicated to her?

I'm super hyped to see all the meltdowns. These next few months should be glorious.

It might sound surprising, but I think it is alright if you don't like and character and they are not by saying your cup of tea, it happens and that what makes fandom unique.

However, the point that is surprising is when many just can't stop talking about how they don't like a character for the same reasons over and over again when many of those reasons just seem to be on the fact that she is in the middle of development.

All together time wise Ribrianne is only at the very beginning throws of her character development yet some seem to declare her not good already and done but that is getting ahead of ourselves. Caulifla and Kale got similar treatment and it seems storyteller and development from episodes 112-114 has help them greatly, not all but enough. It means that fans need to remember a little humility and know that characters are not done being created until their opening arc of who they are is over and for Ribrianne, Rozie, Caulifla, Kale and I will even say Toppo and Jiren, that is not until the end of the ToP arc and by what I heard that is not until March 2018, so we have allot of development to go and Fans need to give new characters time to develop by the ideals the storytellers set out for them.

Mr Satan was an unlikable, obnoxious twit of a joke character in the Cell Games. Look where he is now.

That was because Mr. Satan changed into a much better character in the Boo saga, hell, at the very end, he was the true savior of the universe.

[TheMikado]

I'm not going to entertain the "spoiled episode titles", because we've been down this road before.

In other news, Toei continues to make a lot of money.

Full article..

Toei published on October 27 its earnings for its current fiscal year through its second quarter. The company reported consolidated sales of 23.444 billion yen (about US$205 million), an 18.6% increase from the same period last year. Toei also reported an operating profit of 5.962 billion yen (US$52 million), which is a 24.7% increase, and an ordinary income of 6.281 billion yen (US$55 million), which is a 36.2% increase. The company's net income for the period was 4.291 billion yen (US$37 million), a 25% increase.

Toei's copyright and licensing sales business increased in the period, with sales reaching 13.019 billion yen (US$13 million) for the first half of the fiscal year. The number represents a 52.5% increase from last year and comprises more than half of the period's total sales. The sector reached an operating profit of 6.097 billion yen (US$53 million) for a 56.5% increase. Foreign copyright sales reached 6.233 billion yen (US$54 million), a 91.8% increase from last year.

Toei cited that sales of its Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle smartphone game were key in this area. The game has reached 200 million downloads worldwide and topped sales rankings in Apple's App Store in 14 countries.

Its film sector sales amounted to 7.667 billion yen (US$67 million), a 7.2% increase from last year, but operating profit was down 36% to 1.01 billion (US$8.83 million).

Toei produced six television anime titles in this period, up from four titles in the same period last year. The company increased its sales from 1.697 billion yen (US$14 million) last year to 1.793 billion yen (US$15 million), but its theatrical anime sales saw a drop by more than half from 998 million yen (US$8.7 million) last year to 421 million yen (US$3.6 million) during the same period this year. The home video market performed around the same as last year, earning sales of 391 million yen (US$3.4 million).

Overseas video sales totaled 3.896 billion (US$34 million), mostly stemming from licensing to China and Dragon Ball franchise sales in the United States.

[emperior]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

[HeroR]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

Cali and Kale are more important than Hit in this arc who got his time to shine in the Champa Saga and in his own mini arc.

[RedHeat]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

No.

Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them.

[HeroR]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

No.

Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them.

Toppo really haven't had a dedicated episode except for the pre-tourument stuff. Since the tournament, Toppo hasn't done anything.

The U2 girls, I have mixed feelings on since she got a lot of scene time fighting Goku and then a bit with Vegeta. She only disappeared in 113.

[TekTheNinja]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

Cali and Kale are more important than Hit in this arc who got his time to shine in the Champa Saga and in his own mini arc.

The universe 6 tournament arc felt in as if it existed only as character introduction, yet all the characters it introduced were shafted. That arc teased Cabba and Hit's future potential especially, so to say that was their time to shine is ridiculous. Hit fighting with full lethal intent should have been a major thing, but instead it was just him punching the immovable brick wall known as Jiren and then immediately getting eliminated.

[CJStriker_CBR]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

No.

Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them.

Toppo really haven't had a dedicated episode except for the pre-tourument stuff. Since the tournament, Toppo hasn't done anything.

The U2 girls, I have mixed feelings on since she got a lot of scene time fighting Goku and then a bit with Vegeta. She only disappeared in 113.

I still see Toppo getting allot more spotlighting coming up soon, no matter how strong Jiren is Toppo is the Captain and Moral Leader of U11 so any development for not only him but his team is best to go threw him as well as Jiren. So I expect and Hope this for Toppo.

But the other New Characters like from U2 and U6, mainly the Girls need the development cause this is their Arc in a ways mainly, at least the basics to a beginning for them to be viable in the eyes of many both fans and ones not sure about them.

But I hope since this is seemingly going until March that others get Development like the Namekians of U6, all of U3 and the Bugs of U4 to name a few.

[namekiansaiyan]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

No.

Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them.

Toppo has had 1 fight with Goku that didn't even finish while Kale and Caulifla get at least 5 episodes which is way more than other character apart from Goku. They have got way more treatment then they deserve and we can all tell that Toei are making their screen time as long as possible to try and sell merchandise.

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

Cali and Kale are more important than Hit in this arc who got his time to shine in the Champa Saga and in his own mini arc.

Their role has been to get easily beaten by Goku twice. I don't consider that an important role. You are letting their pointless screen time make you think they are more important then they actually are.

[HeroR]

I still see Toppo getting allot more spotlighting coming up soon, no matter how strong Jiren is Toppo is the Captain and Moral Leader of U11 so any development for not only him but his team is best to go threw him as well as Jiren. So I expect and Hope this for Toppo.

But the other New Characters like from U2 and U6, mainly the Girls need the development cause this is their Arc in a ways mainly, at least the basics to a beginning for them to be viable in the eyes of many both fans and ones not sure about them.

But I hope since this is seemingly going until March that others get Development like the Namekians of U6, all of U3 and the Bugs of U4 to name a few.

I am sure Toppo will get more time since he is the #2 of U11 and can give Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta trouble. So it would be weird if he didn't get anything except some scene with Vegeta.

U2 magical girls kinda sucked a lot scene time early and Rib comes off as more of a pest than a threat. I don't even hate Rib, but she hasn't done anything except be that character that people fight, but won't ring out for some reason. I mean, it would be something if she was presented as strong like Dypso, despite his lousy record, since he could knocked around Super Saiyan God Goku and gave Hit trouble. Rib got pushed around by base form Saiyans and her best fight was against 17 who was playing super villain. I also disagree that his arc is about U2 in any meaningful way.

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

No.

Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them.

Toppo has had 1 fight with Goku that didn't even finish while Kale and Caulifla get at least 5 episodes which is way more than other character apart from Goku. They have got way more treatment then they deserve and we can all tell that Toei are making their screen time as long as possible to try and sell merchandise.

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Their role has been to get easily beaten by Goku twice. I don't consider that an important role. You are letting their pointless screen time make you think they are more important then they actually are.

They got beating by Goku once, not twice. And they are important since they got two episodes and now a fusion who Champa called his trump card.

More like you're letting your bias make them less important than they really are.

[TekTheNinja]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

No.

Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them.

Toppo had only one episode dude. Kale and Caulifla are about to get a fifth.

[RedHeat]

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

No.

Characters like Hit and Toppo already have had several episodes dedicated to them. It's only fair if Kale and Caulifla get the same treatment, regardless of you how feel about them.

Toppo has had 1 fight with Goku that didn't even finish while Kale and Caulifla get at least 5 episodes which is way more than other character apart from Goku. They have got way more treatment then they deserve and we can all tell that Toei are making their screen time as long as possible to try and sell merchandise.

Honestly I hope these spoilers are fake. It seems like way too many episodes dedicated to U2 and U6 girls, while 17, 18, U6 Namekians and seemingly all the other fighters get almost nothing. I would rather see a one or two episodes dedicated to Vegeta vs Toppo. And considering Hit only got 2 episodes, giving this much spotlight to the Saiyan girls and Ribrianne isn't right. Realistically, Kefla should either lose or disappear for a while after episode 116.

Cali and Kale are more important than Hit in this arc who got his time to shine in the Champa Saga and in his own mini arc.

Their role has been to get easily beaten by Goku twice. I don't consider that an important role. You are letting their pointless screen time make you think they are more important then they actually are.

That's a non-argument. Most of the stuff introduced in Super (even Super itself) is to sell merchandise (and it's working). Kale and Caulifla have been largely pivotal in this arc's plot.

This is just another "feels over reals" scenario that happens quite a lot here.

[TheDipDap1234]

It's been 3 hours and we still don't have any scans. At this point I definitely think those "title leaks" are fake and the users on narutoforums are just trolling. I do find it weird though that we still don't have any leaks yet. Terez on her twitter account said we might get them tomorrow since a similer thing like this happened in May (spoilers came out on the 7th that time).