Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Low Tone G]

I know it is a rumor but what if the Vegito coming rumor was true and the despair was no one knew how to defuse him? All it would take was Good Buu can't absorb and it would be a nice twist.

It's an unfounded rumor and it'd require Potara Earrings. If there was any fusing it'd be for Gogeta. But that's not going to happen. It's better not to listen to rumor and just wait to see what other parts of the story or clips get teases over the next few months.

As I said many times, Vegetto is possible to appear. There were 3 pairs of potara earring in the Buu saga and the last pair wasn't used at all. Kibito Kai has them so he can give to Goku and Vegeta any time when needed. But the danger is still present that they can not defuse this time, because it's only one case when the merging would have any use, only if Vegeta will become a God too. Otherwise even if the merging will be successful with normal Vegeta too that wouldn't mean any siginicant(or even decrease) increase for Goku. And the danger is that Buu's body was able to split only normal Goku and Vegeta, now it's totally unknown if a God Vegetto can be still defused by a being which has only normal Ki(even if it's Mr. Buu himself).

[Blade]

I'm willing to wager a great deal that we wont see Vegetto, Gogeta, or indeed if Trunks and Goten are omitted, any fusion at all.

[FortuneSSJ]

Well, December ended. And like I called it it was a great month to get some news.
Now the next thing I want is more information about the plot and the official announcement of the band that will join the hype train.

Happy new year, DB Famliy.

[Barunks]

The potarra earings obviously had to come from somewhere, how do we know more can't be made?

[Zelvin]

As I said many times, Vegetto is possible to appear. There were 3 pairs of potara earring in the Buu saga and the last pair wasn't used at all. Kibito Kai has them so he can give to Goku and Vegeta any time when needed. But the danger is still present that they can not defuse this time, because it's only one case when the merging would have any use, only if Vegeta will become a God too. Otherwise even if the merging will be successful with normal Vegeta too that wouldn't mean any siginicant(or even decrease) increase for Goku. And the danger is that Buu's body was able to split only normal Goku and Vegeta, now it's totally unknown if a God Vegetto can be still defused by a being which has only normal Ki(even if it's Mr. Buu himself).

I'm not saying it's impossible, but highly improbable to just whip out Vegetto to win the fight. It takes away from the story. As mentioned earlier, it was a plot-point to stop Mystic Buu. After which, they refused to fuse again. It's unlikely that's going to change, especially after all their training. I believe the point is to get Goku or even Vegeta to ascend to SSG on their own, without the backing of the group to activate it. I am reminded of a line from Marvel comics, said by Thanos in which he says; "A true god holds his might within himself" when speaking to Thor. Goku couldn't become SSG on his own, he required 6 others to get that done. So I get the feeling that a big part of this training is to get Goku, and maybe even Vegeta, to access that power and form on their own to become true Super Saiyan Gods.

[Kamiccolo9]

[ I am reminded of a line from Marvel comics, said by Thanos in which he says; "A true god holds his might within himself" when speaking to Thor.

That's hilarious, coming from him, considering practically all of his powerups were due to external forces, such as bionic implants, Death, Cosmic Cubes, Infinity Gems, and Death again.

The line you're referring to was from the Walker storyline in Captain Marvel, right?

[Low Tone G]

As I said many times, Vegetto is possible to appear. There were 3 pairs of potara earring in the Buu saga and the last pair wasn't used at all. Kibito Kai has them so he can give to Goku and Vegeta any time when needed. But the danger is still present that they can not defuse this time, because it's only one case when the merging would have any use, only if Vegeta will become a God too. Otherwise even if the merging will be successful with normal Vegeta too that wouldn't mean any siginicant(or even decrease) increase for Goku. And the danger is that Buu's body was able to split only normal Goku and Vegeta, now it's totally unknown if a God Vegetto can be still defused by a being which has only normal Ki(even if it's Mr. Buu himself).

I'm not saying it's impossible, but highly improbable to just whip out Vegetto to win the fight. It takes away from the story. As mentioned earlier, it was a plot-point to stop Mystic Buu. After which, they refused to fuse again. It's unlikely that's going to change, especially after all their training. I believe the point is to get Goku or even Vegeta to ascend to SSG on their own, without the backing of the group to activate it. I am reminded of a line from Marvel comics, said by Thanos in which he says; "A true god holds his might within himself" when speaking to Thor. Goku couldn't become SSG on his own, he required 6 others to get that done. So I get the feeling that a big part of this training is to get Goku, and maybe even Vegeta, to access that power and form on their own to become true Super Saiyan Gods.

My personal opinion is that Whis will give different traning classes to Goku and Vegeta. Vegeta will want only to become stronger, to unleash his true potenital(he could see it in Battle Of Gods in the that rage moment). But Goku will want to become stronger as a God to learn new techniques. I personally belive Goku and Vegeta wiould be equal if Vegeta will become a God too, as his was able surpass Goku for several moments via anger, so if Goku will get special tranning from Whis he will still be able to hold his strongest Z-warrior status along with Vegeta, if that will become a God.

[Zelvin]

That's hilarious, coming from him, considering practically all of his powerups were due to external forces, such as bionic implants, Death, Cosmic Cubes, Infinity Gems, and Death again.

The line you're referring to was from the Walker storyline in Captain Marvel, right?

Thanos acquired items to fulfill specific goals, all of which revolved around pleasing Death. Thanos had a mission, which was to wipe out half of all life in the universe. Thanos understood that his own personal power would not be able to accomplish that in a reasonable time frame. However in the majority of these cases, Thanos' own subconscious feeling of unworthiness of that power is what made him pre-plan his own defeats.

This does not diminish the fact that Thanos generally uses his own personal might when fighting. Even against Odin, Thanos had no objects of power or any such items. He fought on his own, with his own strength. Those like Thor have their power divided between themselves and an object. In Thor's case it's his hammer, Mjolnir. When Thanos fights the Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, Asgardians, Heralds of Galactus, etc etc, Thanos used his own personal might. No tools. No magic gems. He just wrecked them. In "Infinity" the whole team of Avengers were at his mercy and it was apparent that none of them could stop him.

[Kamiccolo9]

That's hilarious, coming from him, considering practically all of his powerups were due to external forces, such as bionic implants, Death, Cosmic Cubes, Infinity Gems, and Death again.

The line you're referring to was from the Walker storyline in Captain Marvel, right?

Thanos acquired items to fulfill specific goals, all of which revolved around pleasing Death. Thanos had a mission, which was to wipe out half of all life in the universe. Thanos understood that his own personal power would not be able to accomplish that in a reasonable time frame. However in the majority of these cases, Thanos' own subconscious feeling of unworthiness of that power is what made him pre-plan his own defeats.

This does not diminish the fact that Thanos generally uses his own personal might when fighting. Even against Odin, Thanos had no objects of power or any such items. He fought on his own, with his own strength. Those like Thor have their power divided between themselves and an object. In Thor's case it's his hammer, Mjolnir. When Thanos fights the Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, Asgardians, Heralds of Galactus, etc etc, Thanos used his own personal might. No tools. No magic gems. He just wrecked them. In "Infinity" the whole team of Avengers were at his mercy and it was apparent that none of them could stop him.

Thanos was enhancing his own might via bionic implants as early as his pirating career, if not even earlier when he was living on Titan.

There's no need to preach to me. I'm the biggest Thanos fan you'll find.

[bleed0range]

Why on earth does anyone think Vegetto will appear? There's no evidence to suggest it, it doesn't sound like something Toriyama would revisit and also... Why would you even want to? Been there, done that. There's nothing left to really explore about Vegetto. It would also be so unoriginal. Why do fans always want things like bring back Gogeta or Vegetto or let's see ssj3 Vegeta and so on. I think it's unoriginal that they're revisiting freeza but I trust Toriyama to put a fresh take on it. But considering he is already doing that I wouldn't count on even more retreads.

[Marco Polo]

Why on earth does anyone think Vegetto will appear?

It's because some poster here that said he heard a rumour by someone somewhere on the Internet ( ).

[Hellspawn28]

Having Vegito throw in just for the fans to be happy would feel really force. It's the same reason why I hope Future Trunks never comes back unless he is tie in the plot then just coming back just to say "Hi guys. Oh no there's a new bad guy, I better help out!".

[Chuquita]

It's due to Torishima and Nakao who are keeping me from being disappointed in Freeza being reused. Because I was disappointed when it was first announced; especially on the heels of the twelve universes reveal. It was like "there's 11 other universes to explore, but instead here's Freeza again.". But if it's got the editor's approval, and since Nakao seems to be having a blast recording these Freeza mini-messages on the dragonball2015 site, I continue to hold out hope.

On a similar note, I don't really need to see Vegetto again, despite liking him. Same with Future Trunks.
I'm just so worn out from the retread in the videogames, and Kai, that I just want as many new challenges as Toriyama can throw at the cast.

[WittyUsername]

Yeah, I doubt Goku and Vegeta will be fusing in this movie. It would seem out of place considering all the training that they've apparently been doing with Whis.

[Dbzk1999]

That's hilarious, coming from him, considering practically all of his powerups were due to external forces, such as bionic implants, Death, Cosmic Cubes, Infinity Gems, and Death again.

The line you're referring to was from the Walker storyline in Captain Marvel, right?

Th. In Thor's case it's his hammer, Mjolnir. /quote]
Correction, it's thor's belt
His hammer just let's him concentrate his strikes, BUT even without the hammer, he stil retains his powers, an still a powerhouse
Anyways OT
i think it'd be more likely to see gogeta before we see vegetto again

[Blade]

Why on earth does anyone think Vegetto will appear?

It's because some poster here that said he heard a rumour by someone somewhere on the Internet ( ).

Then of course, it must be true.

Dragonball Hoshi was great by the way, just like AF before. Gotta be stoked for that 200 plus episode new Anime that Toriyama announced last year, too. The nakef sweaty fanboy never lies.

[Zelvin]

Correction, it's thor's belt
His hammer just let's him concentrate his strikes, BUT even without the hammer, he stil retains his powers, an still a powerhouse
Anyways OT
i think it'd be more likely to see gogeta before we see vegetto again

Actually Mjolnir has a host of powers of its own, including energy absorption, opening portals between realms, augmenting Thor's striking force, manipulating weather phenomena, Godblast, and other abilities. It was much later stated that it was given to Thor to help him control and keep his elemental powers under control, because he'd begun to create storms and the like accidentally while he slept. So he didn't have full control over his own abilities.

On a similar note, I don't really need to see Vegetto again, despite liking him. Same with Future Trunks.
I'm just so worn out from the retread in the videogames, and Kai, that I just want as many new challenges as Toriyama can throw at the cast.

Not just new challenges for the original cast, but I'd like to see a new character soon. Someone new to the roster to really change things up and open up the big unexplored galaxy, or delve into the existence of those other universes. One of the biggest faults I've seen was basically making everyone whose not a Saiyan completely worthless in the story. Piccolo had been confined to the roll of Distraction for several major battles, basically just there to hold off the villain long enough to Goku to get ready to take the win.

The end of the Cell Games made me feel like Gohan was about to become a man, to take up the torch and carry on as the protector of Earth. Then they brought Goku back and made all that character development pointless. Then he finally has a chance again as Mystic Gohan, and that gets tossed by the wayside for Vegetto and then Goku winning with Hercule's help. Now again in Battle of Gods, they're all little more than fodder while Goku gets bumped to God status. Really makes me feel like everyone else has become irrelevant to the story.

So most of them showing up in "Fukkatsu no F", even Roshi, feels a little disheartening. Sure it's fun to see them, but...what're they really bringing to the table anymore? I mean any one of them can slaughter Freeza's men with little more than an eye blink, but then Freeza's going to slap them all down, beat up on Goku and then Goku will get the power juju and beat Freeza. So why have everyone else there except as cheerleaders?

I think the series really needs someone new. Someone from beyond the scope of their world to open that door in the universe beyond and carry things to a whole new level without all the baggage.

[WittyUsername]

To be fair, it looks like Vegeta will likely be a major player in this film as well, so I don't think it'll necessarily be "The Goku Show".

[The Monkey King]

I thought of an ending to this film that could lead on to the plot for the next one (if there is)

Spoiler:

Anyway after Vegeta and/or Goku defeat Freeza, Whis decides trap Freeza in a cosmic ki prison cell and banish him to another universe (let's say 5) so he can never come back (the dragons have no juristiction in other universes).
Eventually over many years Freeza's anger and ki rise to the extent that he manages to escape the prison. Upon realising that he can no longer go back to Universe 7, he begins to take out his anger on universe 5, destroying everything in sight.
Eventually the God of Destruction for Universe 5 goes to see who is doing his job and promptly destroys Freeza, the Kais of U5 see U7 sending such a monster to their Universe as a decleration of war on a universal scale, any universe that commits an act of aggression to another must be destroyed no matter what.
They then gather the strongest warriors of U5 (and perhaps other universes) along with their GoD to take the war to them and destroy all of U7

I hope no one takes my fan fiction seriously

[EmmaWinters]

So most of them showing up in "Fukkatsu no F", even Roshi, feels a little disheartening. Sure it's fun to see them, but...what're they really bringing to the table anymore?

Dragon Ball is as much about the characters themselves as it is about fighting and strength. Battle of Gods gave everyone else plenty of screen time, and it seems this movie will be no different. Some view the minor roles in BoG as insults to the characters, but I see them as a great way to keep everyone on-screen and at least somewhat relevant without detracting from the overall story.

I mean any one of them can slaughter Freeza's men with little more than an eye blink, but then Freeza's going to slap them all down, beat up on Goku and then Goku will get the power juju and beat Freeza. So why have everyone else there except as cheerleaders?

We don't know that Goku will win. It might be Vegeta, or they might lose altogether. I don't think this movie is going to be that predictible. Even if they do win in the end, there will probably be a lot more going on than just the outcome of one fight.