DragonBall Z Abridged

[Jackal puFF]

Who voices the kid anyways? Is he a regular or recurring guest on the show? Would love to hear more of his funny lines.

That would be Lanipator. He plays Vegeta, Piccolo, Krillin, and Mr. Popo. He also played the mother and both the anchorman and reporter.

Whoa that's crazy, would have never known haha. Pretty great range.

[Daisetsu]

He also played Raditz for a bit and I think the farmer, too. In other words, he's the Chris Sabat of DBZ Abridged.

[KaiserNeko]

He also played Raditz for a bit and I think the farmer, too. In other words, he's the Chris Sabat of DBZ Abridged.

Actually, the Farmer with Shotgun is hbi2k, who also plays Nail.

[dbzfan7]

http://teamfourstar.com/video/tfs-plays ... dimension/

Damn not even two minutes in and I'm surprised Kaiser and I think Taka say Super Boo is the worst Boo. I'd have said Kid Boo is easily the worst as he's just mindless for the most part. That's a rare opinion I've never heard of. Then again I do hear some Kid Boo as being the best Boo from some people...for some reason.

[RandomGuy96]

"Super Buu is the best Buu and you're wrong"

I find the Cell comparison rather off. Their similarities are superficial. Imperfect Cell/Semi-Perfect Cell resemble him more than Vegeta/Freeza/Perfect Cell resemble him, but they're still far from the same characters. Especially when compared to the similarities between Freeza/Vegeta and Freeza/Perfect Cell. The former two characters in particular are almost exactly the same, down to the details of their fights.

Then again I do hear some Kid Boo as being the best Boo from some people...for some reason.

He's basically a less loathsome version of Broly. That may have something to do it. You know, monstrously strong, screaming, bloodthirsty berserker who looks really strong because PIS means he's always fighting weaker characters? A lot of people just like that "mindless sadistic destroyer" angle. I personally find it boring (Pure Buu is tied with Perfect Cell for being the most boring villain IMO, though I still like him more than Perfect Cell for other reasons despite him being by far my least favorite incarnation of Majin Buu), at least if said destroyer is humanoid. I've also seen it claimed that he's the best villain because he's the most evil, but even if one was to agree that evil = better, Pure Buu's not the most evil incarnation.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I also think "most evil" doesn't really make sense for him, as someone who just destroys wantonly for no reason is less evil than someone who deliberately wishes to inflict pain and harm and take joy in others' suffering (i.e. Freeza). So I say Freeza is the "most evil" villain in the series.

[Kamiccolo9]

I also think "most evil" doesn't really make sense for him, as someone who just destroys wantonly for no reason is less evil than someone who deliberately wishes to inflict pain and harm and take joy in others' suffering (i.e. Freeza). So I say Freeza is the "most evil" villain in the series.

More so than Daimao, who does the same thing, and is literally made of pure evil?

[KaiserNeko]

Frankly: I don't much enjoy Super Buu as he essentially loses a lot of what made Buu a fascinating character to begin with. His aloof, almost childlike nature as Fat Buu, his violent, unpredictable nature as Evil Buu. Once he absorbs Piccolo, his demeanor changes and he becomes a lot less interesting to me. Meanwhile, Pure/Kid Buu is pure chaotic evil, which is something the series had never really done before. They don't DO much with him, but he was at least more fascinating to me than Super Buu's personality.

ADDENDUM: Okay, so I completely had a brain fart on this one. Super Buu also includes one of my favorite versions of Buu, which I thought was Evil Buu. When I said Evil Buu, I was including everything up until he absorbs PICCOLO. My mistake, apologies for the confusion.

[RandomGuy96]

Frankly: I don't much enjoy Super Buu as he essentially loses a lot of what made Buu a fascinating character to begin with. His aloof, almost childlike nature as Fat Buu, his violent, unpredictable nature as Evil Buu. Once he absorbs Piccolo, his demeanor changes and he becomes a lot less interesting to me. Meanwhile, Pure/Kid Buu is pure chaotic evil, which is something the series had never really done before. They don't DO much with him, but he was at least more fascinating to me than Super Buu's personality.

What series were you reading? He's still childlike and unpredictable, he's just smart on top of that. I personally find that, along with the fact that his default demeanor is "calm and bored", more interesting and entertaining than someone who is just childish all the time. He's the same person before and after absorbing Piccolo, the absorption just changed his manner of speech. Piccolo Daimao was pure chaotic evil (like, literally made of pure evil). So was Broly, for that matter. The series had totally done that before.

I'm not seeing how Evil Buu is more violent and unpredictable than Super Buu. He was around for five minutes and all he did was blast one of the gunmen and punch and eat Good Buu.

[KaiserNeko]

Frankly: I don't much enjoy Super Buu as he essentially loses a lot of what made Buu a fascinating character to begin with. His aloof, almost childlike nature as Fat Buu, his violent, unpredictable nature as Evil Buu. Once he absorbs Piccolo, his demeanor changes and he becomes a lot less interesting to me. Meanwhile, Pure/Kid Buu is pure chaotic evil, which is something the series had never really done before. They don't DO much with him, but he was at least more fascinating to me than Super Buu's personality.

What series were you reading? He's still childlike and unpredictable, he's just smarter. He's still the same after absorbing Piccolo, just with a different manner of speech. Piccolo Daimao was pure chaotic evil. So was Broly, for that matter. The series had totally done that before.

I was reading DragonBall.

King Piccolo was not "Pure chaotic evil", to me. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Meanwhile, Broly was the closest thing we'd get to a character like Evil Buu for a while, but even then, I still find Evil Buu to be the more interesting take on it. As far as being childlike and unpredictable go, he just doesn't much act that way when he's fighting Gohan, Vegetto, etc. He just comes off as... a villain, with Buu's powers. His powers, at that point, being the most interesting thing about him.

... Also I fucked up. Evil Buu to me included the character up until he absorbs Piccolo. Which... after looking it up, is called Super Buu. Which makes it really hard to distinguish between the good version of Super Buu (aka before he absorbs Piccolo) and the one I find boring (everything after, until Pure/Kid Buu.)

[RandomGuy96]

Frankly: I don't much enjoy Super Buu as he essentially loses a lot of what made Buu a fascinating character to begin with. His aloof, almost childlike nature as Fat Buu, his violent, unpredictable nature as Evil Buu. Once he absorbs Piccolo, his demeanor changes and he becomes a lot less interesting to me. Meanwhile, Pure/Kid Buu is pure chaotic evil, which is something the series had never really done before. They don't DO much with him, but he was at least more fascinating to me than Super Buu's personality.

What series were you reading? He's still childlike and unpredictable, he's just smarter. He's still the same after absorbing Piccolo, just with a different manner of speech. Piccolo Daimao was pure chaotic evil. So was Broly, for that matter. The series had totally done that before.

I was reading DragonBall.

King Piccolo was not "Pure chaotic evil", to me. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. Meanwhile, Broly was the closest thing we'd get to a character like Evil Buu for a while, but even then, I still find Evil Buu to be the more interesting take on it. As far as being childlike and unpredictable go, he just doesn't much act that way when he's fighting Gohan, Vegetto, etc. He just comes off as... a villain, with Buu's powers. Buu's powers, at that point, being the most interesting thing about him.

Daimao was a being of pure evil who destroyed cities in a slow and drawn out way for no reason. His whole motivation was that he liked destroying stuff, same as Pure Buu. You can't reason or bargain with him, because his sole desire is to kill you. He might drag it out for fun, but that's it. I'm not seeing how that's not pure chaotic evil. Unless you think that, to be chaotic evil, you can't talk, and can only scream and growl.

When he was fighting Gohan, and in the scenes after that, he's enacting/has just enacted his plan that guarantees his victory, and is generally more serious and smug than he was earlier because the situation calls for it. He doesn't have to act childish all the time. The most interesting thing about his personality, to me, is that he's childish and short tempered (e.g. screaming in the ROSAT, throwing a temper tantrum while fighting Vegetto) while at the same time being calm and cunning (e.g. his demeanor while waiting on the ROSAT, his plan to absorb Gotenks, refusing to let Goku fuse with Gohan). That and he's a smartass (e.g. politely asking Gotenks when it's his turn to attack, offering to let Goku fuse with Mr. Satan/Dende).

... Also I fucked up. Evil Buu to me included the character up until he absorbs Piccolo. Which... after looking it up, is called Super Buu. Which makes it really hard to distinguish between the good version of Super Buu (aka before he absorbs Piccolo) and the one I find boring (everything after, until Pure/Kid Buu.)

He's the same character both before and after the absorption. The only thing that changes is how he talks. That and he's in a different mood due to the circumstances. He's annoyed when told to wait for Gotenks, calm and bored while waiting and fighting Gotenks initially, playful and sadistic whole fighting him later, angry/serious while fighting Gohan and Gotenks and coming up with his plans, and smug and self-assured when he has finally enacted his plan to gain the upper hand.

[Plus, one of you- I think it was you- called Super Buu the worst Buu in that video, while clearly talking about the Buu pictured on the screen, which was Super Buu with no one absorbed.]

[KaiserNeko]

Daimao was a being of pure evil who destroyed cities in a slow and drawn out way for no reason. His whole motivation was that he liked destroying stuff. I'm not seeing how that's not pure chaotic evil. Unless you think that, to be chaotic evil, you can't talk, and can only scream and growl.

When he was fighting Gohan, and in the scenes after that, he's enacting/has just enacted his plan that guarantees his victory, and is generally more serious than he was when screwing around earlier because the situation calls for it. He doesn't have to act childish all the time. The most interesting thing about his personally, to me, is that he's childish and short tempered (e.g. screaming in the ROSAT, throwing a temper tantrum while fighting Vegetto) while at the same time being calm and cunning (e.g. his demeanor while waiting on the ROSAT, his plan to absorb Gotenks, refusing to let Goku fuse with Gohan). That and he's a smartass (e.g. politely asking Gotenks when it's his turn to attack, offering to let Goku fuse with Mr. Satan/Dende).

Make sure to check me update version of the post. I had a bit of a brain fart and screwed up my terminology. My beef really only lies with Buu after he absorbs Piccolo.

And Pure Chaotic Evil... well, I do suppose that his motivations are based on chaotic evil, while his personal behavior and demeanor is refined, intelligent, and calculated. Pure/Kid Buu is none of those things.

[RandomGuy96]

And Pure Chaotic Evil... well, I do suppose that his motivations are based on chaotic evil, while his personal behavior and demeanor is refined, intelligent, and calculated. Pure/Kid Buu is none of those things.

The only difference between Daimao and Pure Buu is that Pure Buu is dumb and can't talk. Is that what you like about him? Because to me, that's just boring.

Make sure to check me update version of the post. I had a bit of a brain fart and screwed up my terminology. My beef really only lies with Buu after he absorbs Piccolo.

I did. I disagree with the idea that Super Buu and Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed) are different characters. The only thing that changes about him is how he talks. He's the exact same character put in a different situation, and reacting to it in a way that's consistent with what we've already seen from him. As he explains, he'd been planning on how to overcome Gohan and Gotenks for a while. So, when he finally does, he's rather proud of himself, and remains in semi-serious mode until he's sure that the threat is gone, which is why he doesn't toy with Gohan, makes a plan B, tries to kill Dende, and interrupts Goku's fusions.

When we see him in a situation similar to what he was in previously, such as when he has basically won and is talking to Goku, or when he's getting beaten up by Vegetto, he acts the same way he did before. Aside from having PIS dumped on him for parts of the latter fight, anyway. The only parts where I'd say he's out if character at any point are during the second half of the Vegetto fight, and when he almost killed Mr. Satan.

[Kamiccolo9]

And Pure Chaotic Evil... well, I do suppose that his motivations are based on chaotic evil, while his personal behavior and demeanor is refined, intelligent, and calculated. Pure/Kid Buu is none of those things.

The only difference between Daimao and Pure Buu is that Pure Buu is dumb and can't talk. Is that what you like about him? Because to me, that's just boring.

I'd say that's a pretty big difference. Pure Buu isn't gonna plop down comfortably and institute a lottery for destroying the world, nor is he going to pave the way for his return by having his minions get rid of anyone who could be a potential threat. I also don't see Buu checking an enemy's pulse to see if they are dead or not, but that's neither here nor there.

[RandomGuy96]

And Pure Chaotic Evil... well, I do suppose that his motivations are based on chaotic evil, while his personal behavior and demeanor is refined, intelligent, and calculated. Pure/Kid Buu is none of those things.

The only difference between Daimao and Pure Buu is that Pure Buu is dumb and can't talk. Is that what you like about him? Because to me, that's just boring.

I'd say that's a pretty big difference. Pure Buu isn't gonna plop down comfortably and institute a lottery for destroying the world, nor is he going to pave the way for his return by having his minions get rid of anyone who could be a potential threat. I also don't see Buu checking an enemy's pulse to see if they are dead or not, but that's neither here nor there.

Most likely, but that doesn't really relate to the "pure chaotic evil" aspect. As I said, do people like Pure Buu because he's simple and can't talk? That seems to be the case. There are things to like about him, but I can't understand how anyone would rate him above any of his previous incarnations.

[KaiserNeko]

Most likely, but that doesn't really relate to the "pure chaotic evil" aspect. As I said, do people like Pure Buu because he's simple and can't talk? That seems to be the case. There are things to like about him, but I can't understand how anyone would rate him above any of his previous incarnations.

There's a vast world of difference between Piccolo Daimao and Pure/Kid Buu. Malicious, blood thirsty tyrant bent on world domination and destruction through calculated actions of assassination and control via the world government VS. an age old, pure manifestation of evil, anthropomorphized into a strange, fluid type, feral being of destruction and chaos without any goals besides destruction. I rate him above Super Buu post-Piccolo because, again, he's vastly different from any previous villain in DragonBall up until that point, even including Janenba and Broly. He's wild, feral; a pure ball of evil energy that is more like a force of nature than a villain. I can dig on that, even though they didn't do enough with him.

Super Buu post-Piccolo is just... not as interesting to me. I think he changes in more ways than just how he talks; the way he processes information, plans, acts. They're all more calculated, less instinctual. Yes, he throws a fit against Vegetto, and that was funny, but it was really just a less mature version of what Cell would have done there. Same with him allowing for Goku to fuse with Satan or Dende. The change in one's demeanor and attitude can really effect how a villain is perceived. To me? I like him least in that form. But even after all that, I SHOULD say that I still enjoy him, mostly. I just enjoyed him more before.

[RandomGuy96]

There's a vast world of difference between Piccolo Daimao and Pure/Kid Buu. Malicious, blood thirsty tyrant bent on world domination and destruction through calculated actions of assassination and control via the world government VS. an age old, pure manifestation of evil, anthropomorphized into a strange, fluid type, feral being of destruction and chaos without any goals besides destruction. I rate him above Super Buu post-Piccolo because, again, he's vastly different from any previous villain in DragonBall up until that point, even including Janenba and Broly. He's wild, feral; a pure ball of evil energy that is more like a force of nature than a villain. I can dig on that, even though they didn't do enough with him.

How is he any different from Janemba and Broly? I just don't find "feral, mute, and devoid of personality" all that interesting.

Super Buu post-Piccolo is just... not as interesting to me. I think he changes in more ways than just how he talks; the way he processes information, plans, acts. They're all more calculated, less instinctual.

His most elaborate plan was the one he made before he absorbed anyone, so I'm not sure where the "more calculated" thing comes from. He acts the exact same way, he's just in a different situation and so is showing different emotions. He has the upper hand after spending most of his screen time either being bored or getting beaten up, so he's more serious and smug. Again, the only things that change are his speech and his strength. Otherwise, he's no different than he was before absorbing anyone.

Yes, he throws a fit against Vegetto, and that was funny, but it was really just a less mature version of what Cell would have done there Same with him allowing for Goku to fuse with Satan or Dende

Nope. Cell would have already let Goku fuse with Gohan. This is one of the reasons I consider Super Buu to be the anti-Cell (complete Cell, at least). Also, if he ever did fight Vegetto, instead of turning Vegetto into candy, he'd instead use tactics he knows wouldn't work, and would deny Vegetto being superior to him at all.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I can see where KN is coming from here. I also liked Piccolo Daimao

[Dbzfan94]

I personally like both King Piccolo and Super Buu (post absorptions). He would've made an awesome final villain over Kid Buu. I like Kid Buu but i just think Super Buu did the job better in my opinion.

[Regarder]

Didn't Super Buu talk about the "intelligence of Piccolo" when he was planning to absorb him? I'm sure his personality much have changed. The fact that he was able to plan for Gohan from before suggests he's smart already, but did he get smarter yet again? The manga seems to suggest that IIRC.

You can't really add intelligence and/or memories with out changing your personality. You'll retain the core aspects of your old self, but you are certainly going to act differently, and how you act is part of your personality. Or maybe that's moot, because how the character acts is what makes people like or dislike them, so even if we say his personality is the same, and he's just showing different emotions and acting differently, then someone can easily dislike that side of the "same" character.

Actually, this all demonstrates how fluid the concept of a "personality" even is. It's really just short hand with a load of grey areas.