"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:13 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:They already make up their own transformations (Super Paikuhan) and fusions
Wait, is Super Paikuhan a transformation or a different incarnation of Paikuhan (like Vegeta: GT is to Vegeta for example)?

And since we talk about him, does he have any new techniques?
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Post by DNA » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:26 pm

Super Paikuhan is a separate entry. It's supposed to be a transformation, but it's just Paikuhan with different clothes.

Some of the dragons have whole new transformations though.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:51 pm

Paikuhan does not transform into Super Paikuhan via a card mechanic, but it's not just new clothes and increased strength. He also has new markings under his eyes, like Cell, so there are physical changes as well. We don't know the extent of these changes though, because he's more covered up than ever, but it seems to be a permanent transformation/evolution type thing.

And no, his move is still just Thunder Flash.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:14 pm

Since they did Majin Bebi Janemba, I'm kinda surprise that they didn't do Majin Bebi Vegeta. Maybe they could later on.
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Post by KentalSSJ6 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:52 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Since they did Majin Bebi Janemba, I'm kinda surprise that they didn't do Majin Bebi Vegeta. Maybe they could later on.
With Bebi Hatchiyack on the way I dont think we will see another Bebi anyone for a while since Bebi Janemba was the one before and hes been around for a few years now. Bebi Super 17 could kinda work. Id like to see a Bebi Goku too for the sheer shock factor and what they could do with a design.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Heroes" On-Going Discussion Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:52 pm

Ι had never noticed his physical changes, I thought he was just stronger with new clothes. Thanks for the info.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:17 am

God Mission 5 SECs leaked. As expected, Dark(ness) Towa and Super 17 with 18 absorbed:
Towa's technique is "Minus Kiri Zone", and 17's seems to be "Hell Lightning Cutter" (jigoku raikōzan / 地獄雷光斬).
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Post by alakazam^ » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:12 am

They look good.

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Post by Xeztin » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:06 pm

any word yet on how we can get the 29th fan book? or when it will be released? it seems all 28 chapters are up. http://www.carddass.com/dbh/movie/153.html

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:14 pm

It released today at the traditional locales: bookstores, web retailers, etc.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:32 pm

Okay, the traditional rundown for the new set...

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Dark(ness) Towa and Super 17 with 18 absorbed have been given Ankokumakai/Hell Gate Arc profiles:
Seems the Hero Stadium event mission won't be too exciting. 6/7 missions seem to be old bosses with nothing new going for them, though Mission 7 will contain the new Broli whatever it is...which still hasn't been officially revealed, because the missions launch tomorrow instead of today with the set launch.

Oh, the card download will be updated a few minutes after posting. Other than that, it's just a matter of watching videos after they come out and seeing if there are any secrets. I'll update if there is anything worth mentioning.

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--Super 17's absorption of 18 is different than he mergers with 16 or Cell.

--Still not entirely sure what his story is, but the new SS4 Broli is a secret boss after Super Mira/Dabra: Xeno/Dark(ness) Towa in the Hell Gate material. He shows up after they are defeated (no idea what Towa's dialogue says)...but then he appears to kill them? All I know so far is that his technique is "Gigantic Genocide". If anyone wants to browse the text or dialogue for a clue, be my guest, but I couldn't get anything concrete. Though, it may just be Broli coming back as a really angry SS4 after being in Hell post Movie 10...

And that's about it for now. I's seen people play all the Earth missions in the Hell Gate material, but only the boss missions in the Hell Gates themselves, so I don't know if there are any surprises there. Likewise, most people haven't unlocked the What-if routes in the Golden Freeza material, so no Champa reveal yet.
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Post by alakazam^ » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:18 am

"To think I'd lose..."

I'm always surprised at how fluid the game is, Ultimate Mission isn't quite like that.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:40 am

It's never anything interesting, but thanks.... xD

Also, been searching for Victory Mission 29 info now that the anniversary book is out, as it's the debut of at least one of the Kaioshin avatars. Came up relatively empty handed though. Only thing of real value that I discovered was that GDM6 will be introducing an Angered Golden Freeza, the same way the Beerus material for Super introduced his Angered form.
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Also, a poll has been opened on the Heroes website. Not entirely sure what it's for, but it lists all the playable (non-giant) characters. No surprise, but we didn't skip any SS2 characters like I had hoped, just confirmation on Xeno Trunks. Anyway...

Trunks: Xeno does have SS2 as assumed.
Trunks: GT apparently has a card of being infected by Bebi while in his normal state.
Son Gohan: GT apparently has a card of being infected by Bebi while in his normal state.
Son Goten: GT apparently has a card of being infected by Bebi while in his normal state.
Janenba, the small and fat version, is labeled "doppelganger/bunshin".
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Post by alakazam^ » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:36 am

It's basically a popularity poll and the top 8 will become special holofoil cards, to be sold in March.

Was normal Bojack available?

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Post by Noah » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:05 pm

Dark(ness) Towa looks hot as always
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Post by DNA » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:07 pm

From that list, can you tell me if my charts are missing anyone?

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:22 pm

alakazam^ wrote:Was normal Bojack available?
He was.
DNA wrote:From that list, can you tell me if my charts are missing anyone?
Some of them are labeled or organized "wrong" (both by your choice and stuff we just don't know yet), but you're only missing some of the more recent stuff from GDM5 (Broli), the angry Freeza for GDM6 I just posted, and the forms from the poll I mentioned (besides SS2 Trunks: Xeno).

Other than those, I think you're good.
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Post by DNA » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:41 pm

Well, added slots for Base infected. I might give it a second look, but I don't remember any cards that looked like that.

As for the new broli and angered golden freeza, I'll wait for more info on them. No point in adding slots right now.

Is saiyan beyond god listed or something? I think there was another "in-between" "not-really-a-form-at-all" type of deal. Was it Miira? Is it listed?

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Post by GoldLiger » Thu Nov 19, 2015 1:48 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's never anything interesting, but thanks.... xD

Also, been searching for Victory Mission 29 info now that the anniversary book is out, as it's the debut of at least one of the Kaioshin avatars. Came up relatively empty handed though. Only thing of real value that I discovered was that GDM6 will be introducing an Angered Golden Freeza, the same way the Beerus material for Super introduced his Angered form.
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Also, a poll has been opened on the Heroes website. Not entirely sure what it's for, but it lists all the playable (non-giant) characters. No surprise, but we didn't skip any SS2 characters like I had hoped, just confirmation on Xeno Trunks. Anyway...

Trunks: Xeno does have SS2 as assumed.
Trunks: GT apparently has a card of being infected by Bebi while in his normal state.
Son Gohan: GT apparently has a card of being infected by Bebi while in his normal state.
Son Goten: GT apparently has a card of being infected by Bebi while in his normal state.
Janenba, the small and fat version, is labeled "doppelganger/bunshin".
So now Golden Frieza has a rage mode lol. Oh well can't say it isn't welcome. Need to find that manga chapter.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:00 pm

I don't really remember them either, so it's likely that the base forms are only available on transformation mechanic cards that have art for their Infected SS states or something.

The list doesn't include giants or forms that don't have cards, so there's no entry for Super Neko Majin Z or "Majin" Zangya. Saiyan Beyond God isn't listed either, though that could be because it's not properly available anymore. Once we hit the date of release for Resurrection "F", that powerup (despite being part of a "?" transformation mechanic) was swapped with the SSGSS form by the game engine. Only way to get it back to having that power up on the card would be the developers reversing that choice or obtaining a time machine.

Incidentally, SS2 is listed for Bardock: Xeno and Trunks: Xeno, so that means there are cards out there for those characters in that form...though we may never know which ones if they are only drawing SS hair. :/

All 3 of Mira's forms are on the list though: Base, Runaway & Super.
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